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   Weeble (weeble@bungle.online)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Jun-2024 11:11:53 JST Weeble

   I think twitter and tik-tok being big centralized platforms have perpetuated this bandwagon culture of people who will post about/interact with a fandom without actually engaging in the media the fandom is based on.
   
   Ppl will say it's mean to shit on ppl who wear shirts from bands they've never listened to, but it's getting to the point where you have ppl saying their persona fans despite only ever reading the wiki and being a joker main in Smash.
   
   I'm starting to see these "parallel fandoms" where you have "fans" who enjoy the art, fanfics, and memes of a media rather than the canon media itself.
   
   And it's all because an algorithm pushes the current Thing Of The Now to everyone regardless of any previous interest. You then have random content creators who just shoe-horn in the current thing for views while the hype is fresh and this all gives a false impression of the thing their posting about.

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     Pleroma-tan (kirby@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Jun-2024 11:12:26 JST Pleroma-tan

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     @Weeble it's weird really, I can't tell of pseudo fans just want to talk to new people or if they just want to get some clout for themselves
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     Pleroma-tan (kirby@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Jun-2024 11:16:34 JST Pleroma-tan

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     @Weeble either way feels like one or the other. I remember someone sort of similar to all the pseudo fans, they came on fedi and pretended to be tech savvy and such so they could get a trans partner
     
     They confessed about it later but it struck me as odd. This feels similar
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     Pleroma-tan (kirby@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Jun-2024 11:16:46 JST Pleroma-tan

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     @Weeble maybe it's an unfair comparison?
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     Weeble (weeble@bungle.online)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Jun-2024 11:22:15 JST Weeble

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     @kirby@lab.nyanide.com It's both. You have content farms who will spit out a reference or meme while a tag is trending.
     
     You also have normies who either fall in love with fanon (fandom interpretation of canon) and add their own takes, or they have FOMO and wanna be a part of a group.

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     Red (redneonglow@bae.st)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Jun-2024 23:47:02 JST Red

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     @Weeble I haven't seen an anime in years yet I post anime girls from newer shows like Love Live Superstar and Bocchi the Rock because the girls are cute (or lewd)
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     Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Thursday, 06-Jun-2024 00:02:17 JST Pawlicker

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     Weeble (weeble@bungle.online)'s status on Thursday, 06-Jun-2024 00:02:18 JST Weeble

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     @PurpCat@clubcyberia.co @Tsuki@amami.paradigm-x.tokyo My main gripe is that these platforms are littered with false fans. Not the idea of things becoming super popular for a month and then dying.
     
     And by false fan I don't just mean "a 'star wars fan' whose only seen the disney movies" or whatever.
     
     I mean Hetalia fans who hate Hetalia but like their own version of it.
     
     I mean the Danny Phantom fan whose only frame of reference is Danny Phantom Fanfics.
     
     I mean the Danganronpa fan who realized their favorite character is shit cuz they finally played the game after talking about it for 2 years.
     
     And I think the only reason they feel compelked to call themselves fans in the first place is because of FOMO and their twitter timelines gave them a false impression of what the media is actually like.
     
     This has been happening even with older shit because evrrything is so accessible now.

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     Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Thursday, 06-Jun-2024 00:02:19 JST Pawlicker

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     @Tsuki @Weeble The other thing with normie interest in something is that it is very much passing. Even when the media control was more centralized, "flavor of the month" was a very real thing. Some community will talk about a TV show or game for a month or so and then move on. Even if it lasts years, something like Undertale came and went as an example.
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     Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Thursday, 06-Jun-2024 00:02:20 JST Pawlicker

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     @Tsuki @Weeble a lot of shit is still obscure when you go outside the popular normie consciousness, double if there's a language barrier.
     
     Nobody outside of the fedi and similar communities will know what a PC-98 is.
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     Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Thursday, 06-Jun-2024 00:02:20 JST Pawlicker

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     @Tsuki @Weeble Plus with the PC-98, even when YouTubers do video essays or reviews of a game on it, the elephant in the room is that said people will only care about that one game or maybe download an emulator for it and nothing else.
     
     Touhou is a grade-A example of this. More people know what Touhou is over what the PC-98 is. You have to be balls deep in that scene to even know about it in the west, and only because of the sequels for Windows and the fan material (and it's already a notorious joke that Touhou fans don't play the games).
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     Tsuki (tsuki@amami.paradigm-x.tokyo)'s status on Thursday, 06-Jun-2024 00:02:21 JST Tsuki

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     That's true. A lot more people are aware of stuff that used to be obscure, I guess what I mean is that I used to be able to find places where people would actually engage further than just posting memes. I think this drowns out people who actually want to talk about stuff, that's definitely how I've felt in the last several years.
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     Weeble (weeble@bungle.online)'s status on Thursday, 06-Jun-2024 00:02:23 JST Weeble

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     @Tsuki@amami.paradigm-x.tokyo I feel the opposite. Nothing is obscure anymore. Everything has a wiki or a youtube essay now. It's just that now if something is really popular its fucking everywhere and you'll be forced to hear about it.

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     Tsuki (tsuki@amami.paradigm-x.tokyo)'s status on Thursday, 06-Jun-2024 00:02:24 JST Tsuki

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     Among those that actually have played/watched/whatever, even less actually engage much further than that. I feel like you used to be able to find fans in "normie" spaces and talk about plenty of more obscure but adjacent stuff. Now if it isn't the most popular recent entry or the subject of some youtube essay or meme no one cares.
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     Weeble (weeble@bungle.online)'s status on Friday, 07-Jun-2024 17:20:21 JST Weeble

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     • Yaldabaoth

     @Yaldabaoth@shitposter.world @Alex@boymilk.cafe Sonic fans are another group I see take copium on the daily. I can never understand the desire to cling to a franchise with as much as Sonic fans do, but nostalgia and autism are just one hell of a drug.
     
     If something I like has shat the bed I just leave the fandom, pretend the creator died, and look back on the good part with rose-tinted glasses while actively memory-holing everything else.
     
     Also when I talk about "being a fan" or "being in a fandom" I mean in the sense of actively interacting with other fans and seeking out fanworks.
     
     This is 90% of my Internet usage and I'm frankly sick of all the "newfags shitting up my board" and just want to go to when I could talk about shows without some tiktok kid complaining how it's elitist to expect anime fans to watch anime.

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     Yaldabaoth (yaldabaoth@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 07-Jun-2024 17:20:22 JST Yaldabaoth

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     @Alex @Weeble Yeah I think there are some exceptions to this. Sonic is another one. There's some fantastic Sonic fangames that capture what some fans like while Sonic team is busy fucking everything up and constantly changing everything. No 2 Sonicfags are on the same page.
     
     I'm tired of the fanon shit invading everything else though, but I don't really engage with other fans of stuff I like online anyway. Once in a blue moon if I end up on a subreddit for something I like, I lose brain cells even if they are discussing the canon material. (Although that can also be explained by reddit users being retarded)
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     :trans_paw:⛧Alex⛧:trans_paw: (alex@boymilk.cafe)'s status on Friday, 07-Jun-2024 17:20:27 JST :trans_paw:⛧Alex⛧:trans_paw:

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     I agree with the main point but there are, or course, some exceptions to it, and I don't think that hating how something turned out in the end necessarily means you "were never a fan" of it
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     :trans_paw:⛧Alex⛧:trans_paw: (alex@boymilk.cafe)'s status on Friday, 07-Jun-2024 17:20:28 JST :trans_paw:⛧Alex⛧:trans_paw:

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     Alternatively, you were a fan, and it moved away from what you loved about it, meaning you need to rely on fanworks to capture what was once good about it. You can be a fan of what used to be, even if you hate what it has become.
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     Weeble (weeble@bungle.online)'s status on Friday, 07-Jun-2024 17:20:29 JST Weeble

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     @Alex@boymilk.cafe I'm not saying you cant enjoy fanworks but the point of the OP of this whole thread is that there's a growing number of ppl who call themselves fans without ever actually engaging with the things their fans if.
     
     If your only frame of reference is through fanworks and if the only way you can tolerate a franchise is through fanworks then you probably weren't a fan to begin with.

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     :trans_paw:⛧Alex⛧:trans_paw: (alex@boymilk.cafe)'s status on Friday, 07-Jun-2024 17:20:30 JST :trans_paw:⛧Alex⛧:trans_paw:

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     wrong
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     Weeble (weeble@bungle.online)'s status on Friday, 07-Jun-2024 17:20:31 JST Weeble

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     @Alex@boymilk.cafe Exactly! Being a pokemon fan means eating shit with a smile or whining about when it used to be totally cool and before your parents divorced. Anything less isn't a pokemon fan

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     :trans_paw:⛧Alex⛧:trans_paw: (alex@boymilk.cafe)'s status on Friday, 07-Jun-2024 17:20:32 JST :trans_paw:⛧Alex⛧:trans_paw:

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     yes just continue consuming the garbage don't try seeking out better product just wallow in filth it's all you deserve
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     Weeble (weeble@bungle.online)'s status on Friday, 07-Jun-2024 17:20:33 JST Weeble

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     @Alex@boymilk.cafe >Real pokeslop enjoyers shouldn't actually enjoy pokeslop.
     
     Bruh just say you don't actually like it. At least Overwatch players are honest and say it sucks while playing.

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     :trans_paw:⛧Alex⛧:trans_paw: (alex@boymilk.cafe)'s status on Friday, 07-Jun-2024 17:20:34 JST :trans_paw:⛧Alex⛧:trans_paw:

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     hot take but if you're a real pokemon fan you should exclusively play fangames and ignore all of the official shit, i think that's one major exception to this
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     Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 07-Jun-2024 17:33:06 JST Sick Sun

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     @Weeble @Alex DEATH OF THE AUTHOR
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     August (bob@versalife.business)'s status on Friday, 07-Jun-2024 17:33:47 JST August

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     @Tsuki @Weeble @eidolon
     My favorite examples of this are when YouTube essayists claimed that Eva is a deconstruction of its genre. Which is probably true but that's not the most interesting part of Eva! But "deconstruction" became the sole thing people talked about on Twitter for years whenever Eva came up...
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     Tsuki (tsuki@amami.paradigm-x.tokyo)'s status on Friday, 07-Jun-2024 17:33:48 JST Tsuki

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     Superficial is a good way to describe it. Memes and video essays have deluded so many things In the public conscious. Some youtube guy makes a video with a million views exaggerating a few moments in a game you like and now those moments are all it becomes.
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     ㅤ (eidolon@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Friday, 07-Jun-2024 17:33:49 JST ㅤ

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     @Weeble @Tsuki I would say people are more superficially aware of more things but that the reality of a lot of those things remains obscure and only the sloppiest of slop get youtube essays since they must be easily digestible
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     ICScaryThings (icst@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Friday, 07-Jun-2024 17:36:24 JST ICScaryThings

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     @Weeble I think a lot of it is actually just the same phycology as the vain fakeoid people who used to pretend to watch sports or some popular tv show 20 years ago, but now because these formally obscure things have been more normalized they do it here as well. So it's not really a new phenomenon, but just is a result of the old mainstream collapsing, so the locusts move on to the next thing.
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     Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 07-Jun-2024 17:38:38 JST Sick Sun

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     @Weeble @Alex @Yaldabaoth
     
     I enjoy some of the Sonic games and I ignore the rest, am I a fan? I don't know. I just like some of the Sonic games
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     Weeble (weeble@bungle.online)'s status on Saturday, 08-Jun-2024 04:34:38 JST Weeble

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     @sun@shitposter.world @Alex@boymilk.cafe @Yaldabaoth@shitposter.world
     
     "Also when I talk about "being a fan" or "being in a fandom" I mean in the sense of actively interacting with other fans and seeking out fanworks."
     
     You can just like something or have a passing interest but that's not what I'm talking about in this thread.

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     Weeble (weeble@bungle.online)'s status on Saturday, 08-Jun-2024 04:36:44 JST Weeble

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     @sun@shitposter.world @Alex@boymilk.cafe THIS DOESN'T MEAN DEATH OF CANON IT JUST MEANS THAT AUTHOR INTERPETATION OF CANON HOLDS AS MUCH VALUE AS THE AUDIENCE'S.

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