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   @not_benis What's the point of OEMs putting 2.5G NICs on motherboards?

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      (mint@ryona.agency)'s status on Sunday, 26-May-2024 04:18:58 JST 

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     @splitshockvirus @not_benis 2.5G is obviously 2.5 times faster than 1Gbps while still being able to run over cat5e, so it's a fairly straightforward update.
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     @mint @not_benis Turns out 2.5GbE switches aren't that expensive or uncommon. I've never seen them and was going to assert the only use case would be point to point connections like a NAS.

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     @not_benis Nevermind that's too expensive.

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     @not_benis At that point I probably should just get Ampere ARM servers cause they probably are going to cost the same, and take up less space.

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     @splitshockvirus my working hypothesis is you could build them in a bunch of NR200P cases, get 240mm water coolers, use the perforated side panel and mount the radiator as a side exhaust. With enough distance between each, you can stack them and use negative pressure to your advantage.
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     @not_benis I really don't want to go with AIO if it can be helped because traveling on a plane with these machines becomes more difficult. I'd need to put the cooler on my checked bags.

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     @not_benis

     General desktop, and KVM cluster so things like virtualization. The virtual machines run postgres, redis, ffmpeg (alot), and nginx.

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     Ffmpeg likes to have lots of cores for transcoding, which is why I want more of them. But there is a thermal constraint with this case, but the case is chosen due to space constraint.

     I can deal with having less cores because I can setup render servers on the other two cases.

     So it's really a question of 24 cores that don't thermal throttle, or 48 cores that most likely do.

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     @splitshockvirus what are you doing to do with these machines? I'd leave the 7950X3D alone because it's an odd beast and scheduling tasks for it is harder than you'd think
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     @splitshockvirus that motherboard does not inspire confidence. I couldn't find any specific current draw figures for the 7950X, but given it can draw up to 250W under water I would get something with a beefier VRM.
     I've also looked at the RAM QVL and they don't list even a single 64GB kit for some reason, let alone any 96GB ones.
     
     The case is alright, but do consider the fact that it uses a unique radiator which is going to be an utter nightmare to replace in case it fails.
     
     If you're looking for suggestions, take a look at the lists I gave eric a couple days ago.
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     The 3D chips have a lower TDP of 120W should I just go with that instead 7800X3D and 7950X3D or 7700X because it has 105W. I can reduce the RAM and swap the board.

     I'm probably going to go with (theoretically for this case) a GRE card. I would go XT and XTX but those will probably cook everything in the case.

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     Here's my parts list so far

     https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DHZmTY

     NCORE 100 Comes with AIO and SFF PSU. $370.61
     https://www.coolermaster.com/catalog/max/mini-itx/ncore-100-max/#

     Total cost is $1582 per unit.

     Not listed is any 2.5GbE switch, TinyPilot or PiKVM (extra $250-$360). I could reduce the core count to 8-12 and memory to 64GB if heat and price is a concern. Wanted to see if I could get into an iTX format. Originally was going to use 3 HAF Stacker 915F but I can't find them anymore.

     One of these could also be a desktop during the day so I could put a GPU in it and then put my TR into a datacenter or retire it.

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     @splitshockvirus also don't get 3D Vcache parts unless you know for certain your workloads benefit from that, because the Vcache CCDs have lower clocks and are more delicate (tolerate up to 84°C)
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     @splitshockvirus A620 has fewer and slower USB ports, plus I seem to remember the boards only support PCIe 3 but don't quote me on that.
     Regarding power delivery, all A620 boards I've seen have fucking awful Vcore regulators which also have no heatsink most of the time. The meta board for cost effectiveness is the ASRock B650M-HDV/M.2, and that's the bare minimum I'd consider.
     Personally I went with a B650E board because I want PCIe 5.
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     @not_benis Some of these boards have video out on the io. But I don't think that means I can use it unless I have a chip with discreet graphics. Am I able to run these boards headless with that 7950X3D or would I need any of the 8000G chips.

     I'm wanting to build three of these systems for a cluster but also match the CPU count of my 1950X. I don't want to buy a Graphics card if I don't have to.

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     @splitshockvirus not knowing the difference in price between 2.5 and 10 gigabit interfaces myself, one clear answer I can give you is that in a select few parts of the world some people are able to get FTTH speeds above 1Gbps but well below 5Gbps, so the manufacturers are focusing on 2.5Gbps interfaces and calling it a day.
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     @not_benis Next what's the difference between A620M and B650 chipset what am I bottlenecking by putting a 7950XD3D on a A620M?

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     @splitshockvirus @mint @not_benis they were expensive a few years ago before Realtek flooded Chinese OEMs with an excellent low cost switch IC.
     
     As for why 2.5 on the mobo, it's a very cheap upgrade for the manufacturer while 10GBASE-T is still a nontrivial expense, sadly.
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