The Hill :press:
Biden slams ICC prosecutor's 'outrageous' request for arrest warrants against Israeli leaders
President Biden on Monday ripped the International Criminal Court (ICC) prosecutor for seeking arrest warrants against Israeli leaders, including Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. "The ICC prosecutor’s application for arrest warrants against... #press
HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
#Israel #Legal #WarInGaza #Palestine #ICC #Netanyahu
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*First "Western" president indicted by the International Crimininal Court*
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I disagree with President #Biden on his stance against the #ICC's jurisdiction in the case of the #Netanyahu Regime.
Even if the Government's legal assessment,
“The ICC was established by its state parties as a court of limited jurisdiction,” Blinken said. “👉Those limits are rooted in principles of complementarity..
https://press.coop/@thehill/112474459422053244
HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
#Israel #Legal #WarInGaza #Palestine #ICC #Netanyahu
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...which do not appear to have been applied here👈 amid the Prosecutor’s rush to seek these arrest warrants rather than allowing the Israeli legal system a full and timely opportunity to proceed.”
...were true, how is any fair and just trial by a (#Jewish) #Israeli court for (potential) crimes against (the) humanity (of #Palestinians) even conceivable?
It can only be raciacially biased and or "partisan," what else?...
HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
#Israel #Legal #WarInGaza #Palestine #ICC #Netanyahu
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...(This would be true for most countries.)
The probability that these crimes have been committed in the face of 35+k dead #Palestinians is so high, that the #WarInGaza can only end one way: with a trial at the #ICC (and a two-state solution.)
It is really sad that #JoeBiden has to be reminded, but the inscription on the top wall of SCOTUS holds true for presidents and soldiers, allies and foes:...
HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
#Israel #Legal #WarInGaza #Palestine #ICC #Netanyahu
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...Equal Justice Under Law."
#Netanyahu and the other's in charge during the #WarInGaza must face justice., just like any adult human being on this planet. The indictments were the only way to go. Otherwise, the ICC would also severely endanger its reputation for impartiality. An indictment is not a conviction.
As the #Torah also..
HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
#Israel #Legal #WarInGaza #Palestine #ICC #Netanyahu
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...says:
"#Justice, justice shall you pursue, that you may live and possess the land HASHEM, your G-d, is giving you. (Devarim 16:18-20)"
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HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
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This has nothing to do with honor to one country or another.
In any democratic society, a court cannot be seen as preferring one country or one race over another.
Many of us (including me,) were all too happy when the #ICC issued arrest warrants against the current (democratically illegitimate, but de facto) leader of a Superpower, #VladimirPutin.*
No, OFC, I don't want to say that the situation is the same or even similar. It is not...
Kevin Leecaster
@HistoPol @thehill
It's awful arrogant of you to assert that you know more about honor to our country, it's constitution and the interests of human rights globally than does Joe Biden who's been immersed in it for over forty years, but social media seems to have made a ton of people experts on everything I guess.
HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
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...#Putin Regime invaded a sovereign country and continues to commit atrocities and war crimes on a daily basis. Israeli citizens were attacked, mistreated, and butchered or abducted in their own country and Israel claimed its right to self-defense.
However, we all know that no end justifies all means.
Razing an entire region from the ground with a scorched-earth strategy, displacing the whole population of several million to "merely" catch a couple of thousand...
HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
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...terrorists, killing about 35k civilians as "collateral damage" will be very hard to justify, IMO.
Yes, this must be judged by the ICC, as a supranational, independent body and, OFC not by Israeli courts who, in my view, have no jurisdiction in Gaza.
As much as I am for a re-election of President Biden (as the alternative is authoritarianism,) this is, in my view, another foreign-policy blunder.
On the one side, "Bibi" has been embarrassing US presidents for...
HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
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...decades, on the other hand, the way the withdrawal from #Afghanistan was carried out, leaving allies exposed in their withdrawal was inept.
If even #Israel's biggest ally in Congress, Chuck #Schumer, calls for new elections in Israel as "the only way," * something unprecedented in Israeli history, to my knowledge, then things have gone so direly wrong that they cannot be remedied.
Politically(!) speaking, #Netanyahu is a "dead...
HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
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...man walking." Even Bibi himself knows this. Klinging on to a drowning man is always a recipe for disaster.
So, yes, even from a US domestic-politics point of view, I think that this support of Bibi's was not his brightest moment in foreign policy.
It needs to be rectified ASAP.
And, yes, even though I certainly don't have #JoeBiden's decades of experience in foreign policy, I dare make this assessment.
I don't even think that we'll have to wait until November..
HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
Kevin, the #bothsidesism fallacy is one of the greatest weaknesses of US mass media.
I agree, at this point, lest one of the two gerontrocrats dies before November, it is either Biden or TFG.
And yes, the #WarInGaza us a phenomenal boon for #Putler, who might gave even asked his major drone provider, Raisi, to request a Hamas strike at that point in time.
However regarding the policies regarding the Netanyahu Regime who was in the process of...
Kevin Leecaster
@ViXY_DBC @HistoPol @thehill
Yes, I choose to take Biden's side versus Putin's and his allies'
Whose side you choose to take is up to you, but there are only two sides especially in my country's elections.
ViXY_DBC
"Since, my country's commander-in-chief is being attacked..."
So your defense is rooted in "tribalism", rather than "law"
"I trust that he's got the long-term interests of both the Israelis and Palestinians. I know he's got more knowledge on issue than I."
"He knows more than I" isn't gonna cut it. Being dead is hardly in the long term interest of anyone, just ask yourself.
Kevin Leecaster
@HistoPol @thehill
I have no experience working with international human rights laws beyond some assistance to some lawyers related to global warming lawsuits so I'm not going to attempt to defend one side or the other.
Since, my country's commander-in-chief is being attacked by so many nefarious actors and their useful idiots I am going to defend him.
I trust that he's got the long-term interests of both the Israelis and Palestinians. I know he's got more knowledge on issue than I.
HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
...greatly diminishing #Israeli democracy by illegitimately bringing the country's court system "in line," much like the PIS did in Poland 🇵🇱 (and the NS did in an "exemplary" way in the 1930s, there is no "two sides of the coin," as #ChuckSchumer, probably an even greater expert on #US-#Israeli relations than #JoeBiden has openly voiced (see earlier in post.)
This issue is not about honor, patriotism, or even partisanship. Moreover, the US are not a party...
HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
...to this war, so there is no overpowering need to "close rsnks" behind the commander in chief.
Getting back to the #Elections2024 theme:
This already is a foreign-policy PR debacle. Supporting a (likely) criminal and (possibly) war criminal but (definitely) stigmatized loser cannot be a winning strategy.
Putting the non-defefensive arms delivery for Israel on hold was a good first step to regain the initiative. The ultimatum Betanyahu faces in the war...
HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
...cabinet might just do the trick and rid the Middle East of Bibi once and for all. He's a boon to no-one but (illegal) Israeli settlers.
June 7 is close, NOT doing all that much until then might be the wiser choice.
In contrast to Ukraine where every day counts, Israel doesn't face an immediate danger.
Also, Israeli PMs, Bibi in particular, have notoriously been quite uncooperative, sometimes not even informing their biggest ally of imminent strikes...
HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
...facing down an out-of-control Netanyahu might even improve US standing with future Israeli PMs.
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HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
Telling a friend that he is wrong isn't an attack.
Pointing out mistake in a civil way first is better than letting the political opponent do it with malice.
I criticize any politician, royal, or industry leader that I deem to be in the wrong. #1A.
"...I think it will end up weakening the ICC sadly too."
I think, if done correctly, it will strengthen it. Too often, the leaders of smaller/less potent, often non-Western states have been indicted.
We'll see
Kevin Leecaster
@HistoPol @ViXY_DBC @thehill
Your statement was not an outright attack on Joe Biden. It was more roundabout than that, but still serves to give the people attacking him cover so I gave my opinion on it in relation to what I feel is in the best interests of that region among others.
I'm not defending Netanyahu, but I don't agree with the court doing what the prosecutor has chosen to do and in a large part because I think it will end up weakening the ICC sadly too.
HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
I wasn't talking about appreciation. I was talking about respect. Israeli PM's have historically been lacking (take a look at Bibi and Reagan, for instance.)
Oh, and yes, the US does get appreciation, e.g. for decades by the UK governments for WWII (often blindly following the US into every other war 😉) or Germany's for the reconstruction provided through the Marshall plan, to name but two prominent examples.
And I am very sure that South Korea and Taiwan...
Kevin Leecaster
@HistoPol @ViXY_DBC @thehill
Nah, the USA pretty much never can expect to get appreciation for what it does in my experience.
HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
...will continue to be very appreciative of the US' continued support against their authoritarian aggressive neighbors, too. 😉
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ViXY_DBC
lol, you think Biden supports two state solution. Lip service, perhaps, reality? lmao.
He would be dead before he makes that happen. Come back and check in a few years.
HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
Hm, IDK, having the two Iranian-backed terrorist organizations next door (to Israel,) plus the Houthis in Yemen constantly a fuses to the Middle East's powder jeg fir the Mullah Regime?
This could only be in the US' interest, if the government represented solely the interests of the US arms manufacturers. I doubt that.
In order to defuse the situation, a two-state, envisioned by the UN for decades, is the only solution that takes account if both side's...
Kevin Leecaster
@ViXY_DBC @HistoPol @thehill
If you don't support a two-state solution for the Palestinian people that's your prerogative. I do just as does Joe Biden which we feel is in their long-term best interests so you can lob your ignorant insults reply guy or you could learn something about a complex geopolitical issue.
ViXY_DBC
That's fine, just don't pretend it is in "Palestinians' interest". Killing em is vicious enough, no need to insult their intelligence and their humanity.
HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
...interests.
I have always been doubting the economic and political viability of exclaves (even geopolitically important Königsberg (presently called #Kaliningrad 😉) will be hard to hold according to a TheEconomist analysis.) I very much doubted Gaza in this respect, before it was illegally reduced to rubble by the #IDF.
However, there were mass resettlements in most of eastern Europe after WWII. Despite their at least questionable legality, they have...
HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
...eventually brought peace and stability to these regions for decades.
In short, exchanging territories to create a viable state for Palestinians might actually be a good idea.
Besides, the Israelis destroyed it. Let them rebuild it and foot the bill.
In exchange, developed Israeli territories would have to bring given to a future Palestine 🇵🇸 (and no, I have no suggestions for such a map.)
If not now, when?
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As I was just saying:
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