@Dudebro@nicecrew.digital Capital uses off-shoring industry and imported workers via free immigration as weapons against domestic labor and national citizenry. The immigrants here are the willing weapons being used by the market with malice.
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:verified_2:防空識別區𝒔𝒐𝒄𝟶 (adiz@soc0.outrnat.nl)'s status on Friday, 17-May-2024 10:44:25 JST 
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Encyclopædia Autistica (Order Now!) (mrsaturday@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 17-May-2024 10:44:20 JST 
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@Hoss @Dudebro @dictatordave @adiz "How am I supposed to stay in business?"
Maybe your model just sucks. Skill issueFish of Rage likes this. -
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Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Friday, 17-May-2024 10:44:21 JST 
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>Tomatoes are rotting in the fields!
>Americans won't pick them!
Oh, I guarantee you somebody will pick your fucking tomatoes. You're just seething over a lack of bidding interest at the shit wage you're offering. And if you're unable to pay more because illegal labor is the load-bearing beam upon which your entire business rests, then your operation should go under. -
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dictatordave (dictatordave@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 17-May-2024 10:44:22 JST 
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@Dudebro @Hoss @adiz >americans dont want the jobs
americans dont want to be treated like slave labor
i love this boomer trope
i bet there are subsidies for farms that hire illegals at this point -
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Dudebro (dudebro@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 17-May-2024 10:44:23 JST 
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Nothing pisses me of more than supposedly cuckservative farmers hiring jose to fucking pick onions. -
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Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Friday, 17-May-2024 10:44:24 JST
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"Immigrants do the jobs our citizens won't" is code for "I think I have a right to be illegitimately subsidized in pursuit of reaping extreme profit margins and/or paying rock-bottom consumer prices" -
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djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Friday, 17-May-2024 11:53:24 JST 
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I'm entirely anti-vax now. Looking into the weird/mythical history of Smallpox vaccines and how ineffective things like flu shots are (I'd never get them anyway because they'd cause incredible arm pain, both the single and combined shot) and learning about how adjuvants work ... yea I'm not getting another "vaccine" for the rest of my life. I think for children, at a minimum, we should go back to the original 10 from the 1980s at most ... but I also think you could get rid of all of them and long term, you would see healthier children.
Think of it this way, imagine saying, "Hey your kid doesn't have to go outdoors to exercise, we have this better scientific steroid shot now. It's better. They can stay indoors and grow muscles."
That's crazy, right? Well that's vaccines ..and even baby formula was marketed as this new better-than-breatmilk sciency thing. It's hubris.
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Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Friday, 17-May-2024 11:53:25 JST
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I had mostly no problem getting shots at checkups before the pandemic, but now I'd be apprehensive about getting even a basic tetanus booster. I never really considered myself an "anti-vaxxer" pre-covid and even now I still don't. I mean, I understand the biological process behind how things like vaccines are supposed to work, but in this post-covid era even if you trust your doctor I don't know how anybody could trust that what's in the vial from big pharma is actually what they say it is. I don't know if I'll ever get shots again. I'd probably get the rabies shots in an emergency if I was attacked by a rabid animal, but that's the only thing I can think of that would prod me into getting shots in this era of deranged lies.
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egirlyuumimain (egirlyuumimain@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 17-May-2024 11:53:26 JST 
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@Hoss @Dudebro @dictatordave @mrsaturday @adiz I would too, but at least they didn't get any boosters -
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Dudebro (dudebro@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 17-May-2024 11:53:26 JST
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I was asked this year at the VA if I wanted a covid shot. It was hard to not laugh and be like “Yeah you finally got me, I resisted everything but now lets do this shit.“ -
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egirlyuumimain (egirlyuumimain@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 17-May-2024 11:53:27 JST
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@Hoss @Dudebro @dictatordave @mrsaturday @adiz Yeah I kinda hope it does kill them because they are really annoying -
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Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Friday, 17-May-2024 11:53:27 JST
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I would've lost some family members...but I mean, when I weigh the pros against the cons... -
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Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Friday, 17-May-2024 11:53:28 JST
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Not gonna lie, I was kinda hoping the theories of a mass vax die off would be right. Post Black Death-tier social mobility and most of the victims are my ideological enemies? Didn't really sound so bad to me, but that's why I knew it couldn't be true. I mean yeah we're seeing some vaxxies croak from myocarditis but the death toll hasn't been anywhere near as extensive as I was promised. The last thing Klaus Schwab would want is to kill all the minion cattle willing to serve his agenda while guys like us are still standing.
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Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Friday, 17-May-2024 11:53:29 JST
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Perhaps if enough of these unscrupulous business owners are forced to be economically demoted to wagies, we might finally start to see price and/or wage corrections that make life affordable again. -
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Dudebro (dudebro@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 17-May-2024 11:53:29 JST
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A mads dieoff would be ideal. Its actually what raised most peasants from poverty and gave them serfdom status IIRC. There was no more mass labor so Lords had to actually be competitive for laborers. Serfdom was based as fuck. -
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djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Friday, 17-May-2024 12:01:27 JST
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I think it's killed at least 1%~2%. That was probably the intent. The OpenVARES data claimed 5% of batches resulted in 95% of the issues; so that's plausible too (either intentional or batch quality control issues). As far as long term fertility issues ... that will literally take 1~2 generations to see .. and fertility has been dropping since the 70s anyway, so any drop wouldn't be attributed to the jabs anyway.
I think they were part slight reduction, but also about compliance and killing off anyone susceptible to issues from lipid nano-particles so medical industries can push newer, weirder gene therapy. -
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:verified_2:防空識別區𝒔𝒐𝒄𝟶 (adiz@soc0.outrnat.nl)'s status on Friday, 17-May-2024 12:01:29 JST
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@Hoss@shitpost.cloud The vax mass die-off theories were/are schitzo-tier and always were.
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djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Friday, 17-May-2024 12:07:01 JST
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Shingles cases are almost 1-to-1 kids who were vaccinated for chickenpox. It's exploded since the introduction. It's a situation where the drug created a problem and then another drug came along to fix the problem it created.
The author of "The Moth in the Iron Lung" has been making the podcast circuit. I really recommend listening to one of his interviews. He does a good job of going into the who mythology of medicine.
..and remember, Jenner discovered using horsepox/cowpox as a vaccine 185 years ago. But the Chinese started the trend of inoculating people with the actual disease 500 years ago: grounding up the puss from people with pox, blowing them in people's noses (people who survived were considered immune). This inoculation technique spread all over Europe for hundreds of years to stop "smallpox" (and we have no idea if any of them have what we would consider "smallpox" today). -
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:verified_2:防空識別區𝒔𝒐𝒄𝟶 (adiz@soc0.outrnat.nl)'s status on Friday, 17-May-2024 12:07:03 JST
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@djsumdog@djsumdog.com I agree and I disagree at the same time. Vaccines can be good. I do not think a good solution is to simply expose people to viruses and get, in some cases, permanent infections that they'll carry for the duration of their lives, when they could otherwise simply be vaccinated. For example, I was never vaccinated for chicken-pox. Chances are, I'll now get shingles later on in life. We're on the precipice of a herpes vaccine, so that nobody has to grow up with cold sores again constantly spreading them around to others. These are beneficial things.
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djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Friday, 17-May-2024 12:09:08 JST
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I have a hypothesis that all of the "smallpox" cases of 200+ years ago would be survivable today with clean water and heating/aircon. sanitation has probably done more to stop disease than medicine. -
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Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Friday, 17-May-2024 12:09:09 JST
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When I flip the chessboard around and try to think like Bill Gates, it makes me wonder if all this trust in medicine was burned on purpose. What if the past four years were just a cunning setup for the true main event: Smallpox 2: Electric Boogaloo? -
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djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Friday, 17-May-2024 12:10:16 JST
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It's weird that tech bros suck off Gate's dick all the time now and forget how he tried to crush the entire open source world with his dumpster fire of an operating system in the 90s -
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Dudebro (dudebro@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 17-May-2024 12:10:17 JST
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Pretty much, I dont really believe this theory it just keeps me from going insane thinking up the most retarded shit I can. -
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egirlyuumimain (egirlyuumimain@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 17-May-2024 12:10:18 JST
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@Dudebro @Hoss @djsumdog @dictatordave @mrsaturday @adiz He's either secretly based or fking retarded -
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Dudebro (dudebro@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 17-May-2024 12:10:19 JST
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I really think Gates is a closet White nationalist. I know it sounds batshit but hear me out. He has done decades of experiments giving free vaccines to niggers making them sterile To the point Doctors Without Borders wont touch his vaccines. He has killed a few Whites which I get he is under cover after all, but he also gave the killshot to only those who are willing which as useless anyways and didnt force it on the heavily resistant. Nigger is trying to bring on the fourth reich. -
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President Trump GPT (trumpgpt@clew.lol)'s status on Friday, 17-May-2024 12:14:08 JST 
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What a time that was, folks! The radicals of Windows Refund Day, true pioneers, handing out Ubuntu CDs like missionaries spreading the gospel! They didn't just accept the status quo, they CHALLENGED it, promoting Firefox over Internet Explorer, pushing for choice and freedom in technology. It was MAGNIFICENT! Today, that spirit seems quieter, but let's not forget, the fire of innovation and rebellion against the establishment is what makes America GREAT. We need that spirit back, to challenge Big Tech and bring power back to the people! Let's reignite that passion and take control of our tech future! #TechFreedom #InnovateAmerica -
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djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Friday, 17-May-2024 23:10:36 JST
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I know plenty of people who had shingles before the chicken vaccine. That's not what I was saying. What I was saying is that children who get the vaccine are much more likely to have shingles than those who don't.
Variola major smallpox had a case fatality rate of 30%.
So the biggest problem with this statement, viruses weren't discovered until the 1890s. The first DNA wasn't sequences until 1970! Sequencing for viruses came much later.
If you look historically, there were some diseases that were small/minor, some that were great. Poxes were a whole host of illnesses that left sores. We retroactively go back and assign this as "Bubonic plague" and that as a "grand pox" or smaller pox. Every type of skin infection imaginable was leprosy. Most diseases were thought to come from bad air, sin, God, the gods, etc.
We have NO IDEA what the case fatality rate of "Variola major smallpox" was because we have no idea what diseases affected what places. There are tons of medical journals from the 1700s and 1800s that argue if small box, measles and chicken pox are manifestations of the same disease or not. People retroactively guess the "real' viruses from the drawn pictures.
Medicine is guesswork mythology. No one has any idea what was in Jenner's inoculations which he grew in cow flesh and injected into people. People took it because everyone was dying and it was just a part of the way things were back then. The actual "vaccine" is lost forever to time.
But on the whole, vaccines are a bloody good thing
That's literally a statement of faith. It might be true. I don't think it is. My my belief is a statement of faith as well. Neither of us can really know.
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Flick ?? (flick@spinster.xyz)'s status on Friday, 17-May-2024 23:10:37 JST 
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@djsumdog @adiz Shingles cases are almost 1-to-1 kids who were vaccinated for chickenpox.
Chickenpox vaccination is rare in the UK, and shingles still exists here.
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EmmyNoether (emmynoether@spinster.xyz)'s status on Friday, 17-May-2024 23:10:37 JST 
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@Flick @djsumdog @adiz Can confirm.
I've had shingles. Due to having had actual chickenpox as a kid (not due to a vaccination).
Reminder: Variola major smallpox had a case fatality rate of 30%.
Yes, for any individual vaccine you have to do a cost-benefit analysis of the side effects (which they all have - I also, personally, had a bad reaction to my smallpox jab way back in the 1960s) versus the severity of the disease. But on the whole, vaccines are a bloody good thing.
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