dadsite boy
The “great” thing about England is that when these articles come out and you google the person who wrote them it’s not something boring like “their dad is a trust fund manager” it’s “their dad is a baron, their grandfather edited the newspaper this appears in, and their family *founded the private Bank of England*”
*all true of this writer
Barney Dellar (he/him)
@cstross @onepict @alex Don’t forget, Barclays was run by Ricci Rich and Bob Diamond…
Jacek Wesołowski
@BarneyDellar @cstross @onepict @alex In Poland, of the two leading politicians (who hate each other, but together represent right-wing establishment), one's first name is Donald, and the other's last name could plausibly be translated as Duck. Therefore, Poland has been ruled by a right-wing, corporate-loving Donald Duck for the last 20 years, which may seem funny, unless you live in Poland.
Charlie Stross
I *HAD* to look it up, and while she doesn't have a wikipedia page of her own she's mentioned on her dad's wiki page (Crispin Money-Coutts, 9th Baron Latymer).
The English establishment is beyond self-parody (even before you get to the likes of Richard Grosvenor Plunkett-Ernle-Erle-Drax).
Esther Payne :bisexual_flag:
@alex wait that's a real name?
Just sometimes with names like that, I do wonder if we're in a simulation. Like that name seems so made up.
Then I remember that England really still is Medieval Fun time land.
Gosplan Cosplay :jorts:
@onepict @cstross @alex https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3122650/Napoleon-Wellington-battle-direct-descendants-revealed-rival-traders-City.html
Esther Payne :bisexual_flag:
@cstross @alex I think people tend to forget that when we mean the establishment, some of that establishment came over with the Normans.
Charlie Stross
@onepict @alex It helps to know that Coutts bank used to hold British banking license 002 (001 was the Bank of England), customer number one was the Monarch, it takes a deposit on the order of a million quid to open an account there, and ... you get the picture.
Alex@rtnVFRmedia Suffolk UK
@Npars01 @alex the whole claim of the article is also pure bullshit - Gen Z employees are better behaved and hard working when treated well, and aren't as distracted by drugs/alcohol or outright untrustworthy as Gen X (I'm Gen X and can remember how most of our generation where often hungover or either coming down from or still on drugs during working hours, and theft from employers was rife, that was the other side of the "hustle"..
Nicole Parsons
The long history of rich people complaining that no one wants jobs that are low wage with poor working conditions.
In effect, the rich complain that the poor aren't helping the rich stay rich.
What happens when workers balk and refuse to participate in a system that immiserates themselves and only benefits one side?
https://daily.jstor.org/how-america-tried-and-failed-to-solve-its-servant-problem/
Nicole Parsons
The wealthy have been griping about laziness in the lower classes since forever.
Turn the argument on its head:
"A generation that will never afford a home thanks to a rapacious 1%, has decided to work their designated hours at their designated pay level.
This is upsetting the leisure class that relied on labor exploitation to keep their wealth."
https://truthout.org/articles/the-laziness-and-irresponsibility-of-the-working-class/
Paul Fairie has newspaper clippings going back 100 years...
https://mstdn.ca/@paulisci/111511518653607726
Charlie Stross
@JugglingWithEggs @onepict @alex And the privilege to not end up in pokey for illegally travelling on someone else's passport ....
Juggling With Eggs
The first bit to be fair could be any writer…but then:
‘I started out life, or grown-up life, anyway, as a journalist on the Evening Standard newspaper in London. There, I wrote about things like the maple syrup diet, doing four hours of cardio a day to exercise like Madonna, and accidentally travelling to Amsterdam on my brother’s passport.’
Just waltzed into a job at the Evening Standard…like you do, no hard yards on the locals.
Charlie Stross
@JugglingWithEggs @onepict @alex That bio is SO GENERIC that if you changed "South London" to "North Edinburgh" I could have written it.
Juggling With Eggs
In her own words:
“Hello. Thanks awfully for coming to visit. I’m a British journalist and author, and I spend most of my time sitting at my kitchen table in South London, making cups of tea whenever I get stuck halfway through writing a sentence (this happens a LOT). Oh ok, sometimes I also have a biscuit. Or five biscuits. And a piece of toast and marmalade.”
Such a hard life…
Helen
@cstross And her brother's a magician. I love it. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/thinking-man/the-aristocrat-magician-who-turned-his-back-on-his-familys-banki/
"They have three children: the journalist and novelist Sophia Money-Coutts, magician Drummond Money-Coutts, and another daughter, Rosie." also killed me. Oh, Rosie.
mcv
Crispin is not the only one; 8 of her family members have Wikipedia pages. I'm sure she'll inherit her own eventually.
Jens Finkhäuser
@onepict @aoanla @tanepiper @cstross @alex It's a telenovela, but in good clothes, and with the stiffest of upper lips.
Esther Payne :bisexual_flag:
@aoanla @tanepiper @cstross @alex now I understand why Made in Chelsea and Downton Abbey is so popular with some of the masses.
This is East Enders level of drama, with lots of money.
aoanla
@tanepiper @cstross @onepict @alex Ironically, it did, but the other way around. Crispin Money-Coutt's Great-great grandfather, Francis Money, was the son of the *second* daughter of the original Coutts, but complex will shenanigans precipitated by the first daughter marrying an American, which the will specifically ruled as cause for disinheritance (yes...) caused him to change his name by deed poll to Money-Coutts and inherit the wealth!
Tane Piper ⁂
@cstross @onepict @alex That's quite the nominative determinism there. Wonder if it works by deed poll
clacke
Undoubtedly. My Dad advised me to change it when I went in to journalism, and now I wish I had. I’ve had to develop coping mechanisms.
> Like what?
Self-effacement. David Baddiel posted a photo of my book on Twitter, saying: “This can’t be a real person. She sounds like a character from Dickens.” I just replied “Real Person” and ignored the later comments.
Richard Rutter
@onepict @cstross @alex Excellent. At least we can blame the French/Danish for all this mess.
Esther Payne :bisexual_flag:
Kinda reminds me of the time when I referred to the posh kids as cuckoos. Like when you hear Scot's barons going on about how they are Scottish with a cut glass English accent and you know they went to public school
Antonio Páez 🇲🇽🇨🇦
Her lineage puts to shame all those lazy Gen Zeders. God only knows all the hard work involved in being a banker's squirt.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crispin_Money-Coutts,_9th_Baron_Latymer
Nicole Parsons
"Young people are refusing to work unpaid overtime like their parents did
We will label them 'lazy' until they agree to work for free again
The young can't afford homes or afford to start families, so our traditional methods of coercive capitalism isn't working like it used to
The #OccupyWallStreet generation never got launched into life with the help of their parents because the orchestration of the 2008 financial crash wiped out a generation's savings"
Jacek Wesołowski
@Tourma I kinda wish they did that, because the result would be a RIDICULOUS country-wide argument about which one of them should change his name to comply with the copyright.
🌀bedient Leia
@jzillw
Surprised Disney hasn't sued them.
(That remark is meant only mildly sarcastic.)
🆘Bill Cole 🇺🇦
@ryan @alex Crazier than that. The Money side married into the Coutts money, seemingly by happy accident.
Ryan, the Dad Who Loves Coffee
@alex “oh yes, the Money side of the family invented money”
ligma grindset
@alex love that this is just a lazy find-and-replace of the last 20 years of articles about Millennials, too. Time is a flat circle baby.
ligma grindset
@WhiskeySailor @alex I plucked a random "Millennials are killing X" out of my memory, and damn, they really are doing just that
https://fortune.com/2023/11/11/diamond-industry-faces-price-plunge-gen-z-uncertainty/
Mister Softie :zc:
@senj @alex saving time by just "find and replace" MIllennials with Gen Z and you have years worth of articles ready to go
Mister Softie :zc:
@senj @alex Gen Z and Millennials epic handshake over killing things and being bad workers
Annika Backstrom
@alex excellent edit
Annika Backstrom
@hazelnot my first thought was Department of Homeland Security looking at social media at the border 😅 think they know about the fediverse yet?
hazelnot :yell:
@annika @alex unless you don't wanna end up on a CIA watchlist 💀
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