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    clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Friday, 09-Feb-2024 19:08:16 JST clacke clacke

    Is there such a thing as a soup pot with a cast-iron bottom?

    I don't want to buy non-stick pots and inevitably get micro teflon in my food as it deteriorates, and I really like how my cast-iron frying pan works.

    I suppose there are full cast-iron pots, but those would be super heavy and also easy to burn yourself on.

    I suppose it's not possible to make something like this without getting a seam that would inevitably leak?

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      clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Friday, 09-Feb-2024 19:50:43 JST clacke clacke
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      • maswan
      @maswan hmmm, ok
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      maswan (maswan@mastodon.acc.sunet.se)'s status on Friday, 09-Feb-2024 19:50:45 JST maswan maswan
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      @clacke There are good reason to not do long simmers of anything acidic in cast iron pots, you leech out a bit too much iron to be healthy that way IIRC.

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      Daniel T 🌻 (randomdamage@infosec.exchange)'s status on Friday, 09-Feb-2024 19:51:00 JST Daniel T 🌻 Daniel T 🌻
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      @clacke another vote here for stainless steel clad cookware.

      I've got a set of 3-layer (steel-aluminum-steel) that was about the same price as a non-stick set and is very well behaved on my electric stovetop.

      The set I have doesn't have any visible seams inside or out, and the heat distribution on it is amazing

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      jyc (jyc@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 09-Feb-2024 19:51:03 JST jyc jyc
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      @clacke If heat retention is what you’re going for, I have an enameled cast iron Dutch oven that works OK! It is indeed super heavy though. Don’t know of any which only have cast iron on the bottom unfortunately…

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      clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Friday, 09-Feb-2024 19:51:03 JST clacke clacke
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      @jyc What I'm going for is "non-stick if smothered in fat" more than the heat retention.
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      clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Friday, 09-Feb-2024 19:51:06 JST clacke clacke
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      @jyc "Dutch oven" sounds interesting. I don't have an oven and have tried using a pot with mixed results.
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      Mans R (mansr@society.oftrolls.com)'s status on Friday, 09-Feb-2024 21:03:37 JST Mans R Mans R
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      @clacke Side note: I have a couple of non-stick pans made with some kind of ceramic coating that's supposedly free of nasty stuff.

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      clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Friday, 09-Feb-2024 21:03:40 JST clacke clacke
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      • Mans R
      @mansr Ok, that's cool too. Enamel?
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      feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Friday, 09-Feb-2024 22:25:38 JST feld feld
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      • Dave T-W
      @davoloid @RandomDamage @clacke in a recent fan of these amazing stainless and titanium cookware that's actually made in the USA

      https://www.heritagesteel.us/collections/titanium-series
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      Dave T-W (davoloid@qoto.org)'s status on Friday, 09-Feb-2024 22:25:39 JST Dave T-W Dave T-W
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      • Daniel T 🌻

      @RandomDamage @clacke Yep, I've got a set with thick bottoms, been using them for 22 years and still come up brilliant when cleaned. Brabantia don't seem to do those any more but there are others. They weren't even that expensive at the time.

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      Mans R (mansr@society.oftrolls.com)'s status on Friday, 09-Feb-2024 22:54:54 JST Mans R Mans R
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      @clacke It's not enamel, but I don't know what it is. Ceramic covers a very broad category of compounds.

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      Kuba =)K (kuba@ruby.social)'s status on Friday, 09-Feb-2024 22:54:55 JST Kuba =)K Kuba =)K
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      @clacke recently I was replacing damaged PTFE pan. It ended by two pans (thick bottomed stainless steel for food that need high temperatures and some (IIRC) ceramic coated for food prepared at lower temperatures).

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      clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Friday, 09-Feb-2024 22:54:58 JST clacke clacke
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      Wow, I didn't expect this much feedback on pots and pans. Thank you all, and do keep it coming if you have more to add.
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      Leif Lindholm (unixsmurf@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 10-Feb-2024 01:49:58 JST Leif Lindholm Leif Lindholm
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      @clacke
      Copper bottomed stainless?

      Otherwise, as mentioned by someone else, there are much better and more durable non-stick surfaces than teflon paint these days. Look for kit marked dishwasher safe :)

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      feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Saturday, 10-Feb-2024 04:42:20 JST feld feld
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      • Dave T-W
      @RandomDamage @clacke @davoloid my last stainless set (which was a cheap set with plastic handles, imported from South Korea) lasted me ~15 years so I think if I can pull that off with these it’s more than worth the investment.

      We need more "buy it for life" products.
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      Daniel T 🌻 (randomdamage@infosec.exchange)'s status on Saturday, 10-Feb-2024 04:42:21 JST Daniel T 🌻 Daniel T 🌻
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      @feld @clacke @davoloid The cost is on the high side for those.

      Maybe if I were single

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      feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Saturday, 10-Feb-2024 04:50:57 JST feld feld
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      @RandomDamage @clacke @davoloid

      > basic stainless alloy,

      that's what worries me. It probably has a bunch of nickel in it. We've got some research showing that nickel exposure leads to some neuro diseases like parkinsons and alzheimers. I specifically chose these pans to avoid that.

      Not to scare you, just sharing my train of thought on this
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      Daniel T 🌻 (randomdamage@infosec.exchange)'s status on Saturday, 10-Feb-2024 04:50:59 JST Daniel T 🌻 Daniel T 🌻
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      • feld
      • Dave T-W

      @feld @clacke @davoloid I'm pretty sure my current $200 set won't be replaced because it wears out.

      All metal, good finish, basic stainless alloy, basic aluminum core.

      A heritage steel set like that would probably last generations, but so would a lot of less expensive sets.

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      LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Saturday, 10-Feb-2024 06:20:13 JST LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}
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      I'm no expert on cookware, but I'm starting to prefer stainless steel. I'm going to rely on the oil to prevent sticking, so I don't need fragile plastic coatings.

      I will look into ceramic coated stainless steel, but for now I just use pure stainless. (There's probably a better quality if you're willing to pay for it. The most recent pan I bought was under $40 for one and it seems to work fine.

      Granted, I try to cook with lowered heat anyway, so I am not concerned about melting or loosening the coating.
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      Daniel T 🌻 (randomdamage@infosec.exchange)'s status on Saturday, 10-Feb-2024 09:28:30 JST Daniel T 🌻 Daniel T 🌻
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      • feld
      • Dave T-W

      @feld @clacke @davoloid I'm just going to say that given the test methodology I am not concerned by the IRL implications.

      Doubly so since I am not particularly sensitive to Ni or Cr.

      It does, however, make a really good case for using something like an enamel-lined dutch oven for long-cook time acidic foods.

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      feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Saturday, 10-Feb-2024 09:28:31 JST feld feld
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      • Daniel T 🌻
      • Dave T-W
      @davoloid @RandomDamage @clacke the 316Ti is the most corrosion resistant I could find so even the most acidic foods shouldn't be able to leach it out AIUI

      here's an article about the nickel contamination of food from the cookware

      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4284091/
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        Stainless Steel Leaches Nickel and Chromium into Foods During Cooking
        Toxicological studies show that oral doses of nickel and chromium can cause cutaneous adverse reactions such as dermatitis. Additional dietary sources, such as leaching from stainless steel cookware during food preparation, are not well characterized. ...
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      Dave T-W (davoloid@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 10-Feb-2024 09:28:32 JST Dave T-W Dave T-W
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      • feld
      • Daniel T 🌻

      @feld @RandomDamage @clacke Valid point, hadn't considered that. There are apparently some tests you can do. https://wilmax.com/pages/how-can-you-tell-if-stainless-steel-is-good-quality-try-this-test

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        How Can You Tell if Stainless Steel is Good Quality? (Try this test!) – Wilmax Porcelain

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