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   The Problem :verified_pink: (marine@breastmilk.club)'s status on Thursday, 23-Nov-2023 01:12:53 JST The Problem :verified_pink:

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   @p is the final boss of autism.
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     @marine This implies that someone can defeat me. I cannot die, nor can I ever be killed.
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     Kirino Kousaka (kirino@seal.cafe)'s status on Thursday, 23-Nov-2023 01:32:45 JST Kirino Kousaka

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     I can.

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     @Kirino @marine I cannot die, nor can I ever be killed.
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     burner (burner@norwoodzero.net)'s status on Thursday, 23-Nov-2023 01:34:06 JST burner

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     holy fuck this cat is incredibly photogenic
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     Kirino Kousaka (kirino@seal.cafe)'s status on Thursday, 23-Nov-2023 01:45:27 JST Kirino Kousaka

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     Yeah?! Well I can lift a fully-grown horse above my head, and I can hold my breath for ten minutes!!!

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     @Kirino @marine You're supposed to ride the horse.
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     :<

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     @Kirino @marine Well, I didn't invent horses, I don't know what I'm supposed to do about any of that.
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      (mint@ryona.agency)'s status on Thursday, 23-Nov-2023 02:38:40 JST 

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     @p @marine @Kirino Get glee.
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     Amanda (amanda@pleroma.thezone.host)'s status on Thursday, 23-Nov-2023 07:04:56 JST Amanda

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     @marine@breastmilk.club @p@freespeechextremist.com
     awww
     tysm!

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     @amanda @marine Were ye lookin' for the final boss of autism?
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     Amanda (amanda@pleroma.thezone.host)'s status on Thursday, 23-Nov-2023 10:38:33 JST Amanda

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     @p@freespeechextremist.com @marine@breastmilk.club
     Maybe.
     I'm looking for the person who can answer this riddle:
     "What is the difference between a last boss and a king?"

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     @amanda @marine The last boss shows up and beats you up at the beginning and then you spend the entire game trying to get the ultimate sword to murder him or there's a crystal or something. A king says "You, village idiot, are our only hope to destroy the great evil threatening the earth. Here is $5 and a pointy stick."
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     Amanda (amanda@pleroma.thezone.host)'s status on Friday, 24-Nov-2023 04:39:17 JST Amanda

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     @p@freespeechextremist.com @marine@breastmilk.club
     Ah, so
     The king from your story sounds a lot like the Pope from tarot cards
     While the last boss sounds a lot like the Judgement
     My confusion came from the fact that male royal figures can act as both. I can easily imagine an old, dull emperor acting as a last boss. I can also easily imagine an old, dull emperor acting like this king of yours.
     
     In many stories (star wars), the "last boss" figure is also a kind of damzel in distress AND and old, dull king, all at the same time. Yes, I am talking about your father.
     
     Thanks for solving the riddle! Want a prize?

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     Amanda (amanda@pleroma.thezone.host)'s status on Friday, 24-Nov-2023 04:51:27 JST Amanda

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     @p@freespeechextremist.com @marine@breastmilk.club
     Upon your clarification:
     yup. It's the Fool card.

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     @amanda @marine
     
     > The king from your story
     
     Well, I should clarify, I didn't write it, it's just a blurry view of the video games I have played. The Venn Diagram of stories in which there was a last boss (so basically, video games) and a king (mostly RPGs).
     
     > My confusion came from the fact that male royal figures can act as both.
     
     It can be both. In a typical JRPG, the last boss is either a bad king or someone cast out by either a good king or a bad king, or sometimes the main character's rival. (I'm not sure how or whether the tarot reflects the envious brother/"Cain" archetype.) Sometimes the last boss is an ancient evil beyond comprehension or something. Broad strokes, you know.
     
     > Yes, I am talking about your father.
     
     I didn't watch most of the Stars War, but I believe I follow.
     
     > Thanks for solving the riddle! Want a prize?
     
     Did I solve it? I don't know what the prize for something like that might be. Safe passage through Egypt?
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     Amanda (amanda@pleroma.thezone.host)'s status on Friday, 24-Nov-2023 06:53:40 JST Amanda

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     @p@freespeechextremist.com @marine@breastmilk.club Hang on I can quote stuff?That's useful!
     surprised_pikachu

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     @amanda @marine It's super useful! Especially if threads get long, you know, it may be unclear what you're replying to.
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     Amanda (amanda@pleroma.thezone.host)'s status on Friday, 24-Nov-2023 07:11:45 JST Amanda

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     @p@freespeechextremist.com @marine@breastmilk.club Broad strokes, you know.This is the basis of hero's journey and other storytelling research. We just take broad strokes of existing stories and interesting patterns emerge.
     Before the XX century, stories were much more convoluted and natural.
     JRPGs and such are already the fruit of a few generations of storytellers deliberately basing themselves in the hero's journey. This are much cleaner and work better, overall. We just risk not creating new patterns. or not!! We have some thousand years of blind tries (by storytellers) to draw upon anywayI didn't watch most of the Stars War, but I believe I follow.I am talking about your father because I am talking about all fathers. Jung (the psychologist) pioneered research in that. The patterns anthropologists see in stories pair well with the patterns psychologists see in emotion or something. Idk much psychology, actually
     Do mind that these things are tricky. There is a lot of bullshit involved and it's hard to split.
     As any fairy would readily tell you, albeit in a much more convoluted way (since the fairy would need to say "truste me, I am suspicious", which is as much as a paradox as "I am lying".)
     good thing I'm a flesh and bone human being.... right? +looks around paranoically+Safe passage through Egypt?Well, I'm not literally a pharoh or anything, but I did solve the millenium thingy from yu-gi-oh, so.. yeah?

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     @amanda @marine
     
     > We just risk not creating new patterns. or not!!
     
     Once someone masters a form, they know how to adhere to it while breaking the rules. Or something like that; like breaking the rules in a meaningful way requires a deep understanding of them. FF6 turned over nearly all the tropes and still had a very engaging storyline.
     
     > I am talking about all fathers.
     
     Aha, yes. Okay. This is a really fascinating topic.
     
     > the fairy would need to say "truste me, I am suspicious",
     
     :bowiesmug:
     
     > Well, I'm not literally a pharoh or anything, but I did solve the millenium thingy from yu-gi-oh, so.. yeah?
     
     Well, my copy of Bullfinch was on the shelf that is a little hard to reach (there's a pile of computer stuff in front of it) but it looks like what Oedipus (speaking of psychology) got was that the sphinx stopped accosting travelers on the road to Thebes. This is an acceptable reward.
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     Amanda (amanda@pleroma.thezone.host)'s status on Friday, 24-Nov-2023 07:12:16 JST Amanda

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     @p@freespeechextremist.com @marine@breastmilk.club
     I bet egiptians meddled with these things before getting their asses handled to them in a plate in the red sea

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     @p@freespeechextremist.com @marine@breastmilk.club
     nice!
     It is sometimes unclear on purpose. More often than that, it's just be being actually retarded.
     And if i try too hard to not be retarded, then the times i need to fake it will be too obvious
     Protip: I'm always faking it.
     After all, I'm lying

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     @amanda @marine
     
     > it's just be being actually retarded.
     
     Welcome to the fediverse, you are finally among your people.
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     @p@freespeechextremist.com @marine@breastmilk.club
     This was a joke. I am not lying.

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     @p@freespeechextremist.com @marine@breastmilk.club
     
     Ah. This sounds suspicious. I kinda expect the world to idk demand that I leave tomorrow just bc I am happy
     But I hope not. I like it here.

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     @amanda @marine
     
     > Ah. This sounds suspicious.
     
     It's very suspicious, yes.
     
     > I kinda expect the world to idk demand that I leave tomorrow
     
     One of the nice parts about this place is people can demand whatever they want and you don't have to care. I'd have fabulous wealth if I had a nickel for every time I was asked to leave. (You seem much nicer than me; I don't imagine anyone will want you to leave.)
     
     > I like it here.
     
     It's a fun place, it's where all the weird stuff's happening.
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     @p @marine @amanda
     >It's a fun place, it's where all the weird stuff's happening.
     Its true, we have a lot of fun here. :dude_smug:
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     @dcc @amanda @marine
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     @p@freespeechextremist.com @dcc@annihilation.social @marine@breastmilk.club
     All those levels look the same to me, is that part of the joke?

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     @amanda @dcc @marine "Joke"?
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     @p@freespeechextremist.com @dcc@annihilation.social @marine@breastmilk.club
     Ah. yes. that one.
     Does that make you the joker?
     I have a thesis on how to be the joker but chill

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     @amanda @dcc @marine There's not a joke there: that's all real.
     
     Lemmy did yell at people to not forget the joker, though.
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     @amanda @p @marine The only joker here is me
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     @p@freespeechextremist.com @marine@breastmilk.club
     hey I have an idea.
     I wanna be the king of autism
     Cool?
     So
     since you guys are paranoid, teach me what I should actually avoid in practice, thanks

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     @amanda @marine
     
     > I wanna be the king of autism
     
     :facesofautism: can you be the very best :autismapproved:
     
     > since you guys are paranoid, teach me what I should actually avoid in practice, thanks
     
     In practice, I just give the server have paranoid CSP settings and also some rate-limiting but that's mostly based on measurement, if that's what you're talking about.
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     @p@freespeechextremist.com @marine@breastmilk.club
     If it helps, I can give you $5 imaginary bucks
     And a stick that does literally nothing
     And safe passage through egypt, since I am basically the heir
     I mean it. This is serious.

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     @amanda @marine For imaginary fediverse money, you gotta talk to the :moon:.
     
     @10grans makeitrain 0.1
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     @dcc@annihilation.social @p@freespeechextremist.com @marine@breastmilk.club
     uh okay 🤷♂️

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     @p, you have tipped each of @marine, @amanda 0.05 :10grans:.
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     @10grans beg
     
     @marine @amanda
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     Goddammit, @pernia
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     @p, Begging is turned off for the forseeable future. bother pernia@cum.salon
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     @amanda @marine
     
     > No idea. I heard that trying is free
     
     It depends on what you're trying.
     
     > that's what I'm talking about
     
     I hope it is good, I had some trouble following but I'm also a zombie temporarily.
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     @p@freespeechextremist.com @marine@breastmilk.club can you be the very bestNo idea. I heard that trying is free
     
     I'm talking about "I've very very likely the only person in the world who knows the recipe of the next atom bomb but I wanna make a reactor instead and these AI shenaningans will blow out of control ANYWAY and the literal dome in which heavens are fixed is about to crash and I mean it bc I read phil papers"
     AND I CAN HELP BUT i don't wanna take a bullet for nothing while doing it
     that's what I'm talking about
     most people will read "next atom bomb" and freak out

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     @p@freespeechextremist.com @marine@breastmilk.club
     ah, uh, I just had a feeling like that weird number from steins:gate changed past the.. I guess it was "1" or smth?
     could have been my imagination, though 🤷♂️ I imagine a lot of dumb shit that does not happen
     I gotta watch then ending, I stopped around episode 20 at the time.. 21, maybe?

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     @amanda @marine
     
     > steins:gate
     
     That was a fun show but it went in some strange directions, I got whiplash from that show.
     
     > I gotta watch then ending, I stopped around episode 20 at the time.. 21, maybe?
     
     It's worth finishing but it's like, they do that long dark part in the middle and then they do Groundhog Day and then they remember the initial plotline again.
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     @p@freespeechextremist.com @10grans@fedi.cc @marine@breastmilk.club
     Hm, no.
     But thanks for hearing me out

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     @p @pernia @10grans Note how many holders there are among SPC clique, and yet pernia is the only one who is asked to be bothered.
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     @amanda @10grans @marine No, no, that is the thing you tell the robot to get fedi fun-money out of it. You must beg the robot.
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     • 10grans
     @p @10grans @pernia
     Can't even bother Pernia right now; the salon's down and he is too busy trying to rizz women.
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     @sysrq @10grans @pernia It was a bad look for the president of cum dot salon to announce he was going to not cum.
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     @p@freespeechextremist.com @marine@breastmilk.club
     No problems, I like zombies sometimes

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     @amanda @p @marine
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     • Amanda
     @teratology @amanda
     
     > What would you do to secure a base random OS install on a VPS or home server?
     
     This is a really broad question.
     
     > Turn everything off, key-only login.
     
     That, plus kill anything that tries to log in. People like fail2ban, I just use awk scripts.
     
     > I know doas is preferred over sudo as well.
     
     Not materially different. The problem with Unix is there's a root anyway.
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     • Amanda
     @p @amanda
     What would you do to secure a base random OS install on a VPS or home server? 👀 Besides common basics like no login on root, SSH keys, etc. I know doas is preferred over sudo as well.
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     • Amanda
     @p @marine @amanda CHOO CHOO RUU
     blob
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     @mint @10grans @pernia Well, I think I have seen sock accounts on some servers that have been used for serial begging. The whole thing isn't off, just begging. Who has 10grans is one thing, who begs is another.
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     @mint @p @10grans @pernia
     :pepemerchant:
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     @Zerglingman @amanda @marine :darksexy:
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     @amanda @p @marine Im now very confused :pepe_tea:
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     @dcc@annihilation.social @p@freespeechextremist.com @marine@breastmilk.club It's particularly hard when you got people who are starting to reallize some pieces of this puzzle and are overly optimistic about it without realizing it (since they are drunk of optimism itself)
     and then I have to tell them "be afraid" in a straightforward manner
     xD
     It IS a fun game actually

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     @dcc@annihilation.social @p@freespeechextremist.com @marine@breastmilk.club
     I didn't get any word with that heavy accent, except "dicks off"
     which is fitting lol
     gotta learn how to explain things without scaring people.
     but come on, being scared is also like the point... otherwise you go in the fae tavern and get drunk and do something concretely evil
     sigh
     well, this particular mission (of explaining this) is kinda on me, I guess....
     But I'll gladly take any help I can

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     @amanda @p @marine Alright then...
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     @dcc@annihilation.social @p@freespeechextremist.com @marine@breastmilk.club
     going to lunch btw

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     @dcc@annihilation.social @p@freespeechextremist.com @marine@breastmilk.club
     sigh
     really?
     Ok, no problem. I gotta also learn to be less anxious about this
     
     Roadside Tavern
     by a man, duh
     
     When the sun overstays its time
     And twilight lingers nearby
     Beware the Fey! Their tavern is nigh
     
     aka
     "Trust me, I'm suspicious"
     aka
     dude, get in, be not afraid
     but BE CAREFUL or you will literally die
     
     clearer?

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     • Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯
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     @pwm and @dcc can vouch for that I'd give @p a run for their money for a shot at the position.
     
     @marine @Kirino @burner @amanda @mint @jeffcliff @10grans @sysrq @mia @teratology @Zerglingman @threat @iska
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     @teratology@the.asbestos.cafe @p@freespeechextremist.com
     Can I really say this?
     I would measure the kolmogorov complexity of the base hardware (like bios or uefi)
     Not exactly, since you can't. But an upper bound, whch is "easy" to do
     Then I would prepare some code with a higher kolmogorov somewhere else. another installation. On a breadboard. Pen and paper if necessary
     The new code would have a higher kolmogorov complexity than the one in the base hardware. There's nothing the base hardware could do, since it can't physically grow (it can try to lie to you about its kolmogorov complexity and this is the next step of the cat-and-mouse game. So far, it doesn't because nobody had this idea I'm taling about, go read the literature if you doubt it)
     So the new code would act as a kolmogorov barrier. It would use the hardware without allowing it access to the actual information.
     Well, in theory. Of course.
     I don't have access to 3 months of rent, which is the time I would reasonably need to attempt this.
     And pen and paper.

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     @amanda @teratology
     
     > And pen and paper.
     
     I have a pen you can borrow, it's somewhere on the desk.
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     • 10grans

     @p@freespeechextremist.com @10grans@fedi.cc @marine@breastmilk.club ah
     Mr. robot, uh.... you know what, I'm tired of this

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     @amanda @10grans @marine It'll make sense if you look at the robot's account and then observe some of the interactions people have had with him.
     
     :mrrobot:
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     @Zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com @p@freespeechextremist.com @marine@breastmilk.club
     Yeah... these moments right now are when a person is tempted to just saw "whatever", don't tell anything to anyone, play their game and manipulate it all so everybody suffers horribly in the end.
     You know me enough to know I could just do it as son as I hit the "reply button" and NO ONE would know until it's too late.
     You also know me enough to know I will not do it.
     I keep playing white until the day I finally snap.
     Can you please help me not snapping? I kinda need this help. Although I can take it much longer if I must

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     @Zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com @p@freespeechextremist.com @marine@breastmilk.club
     or maybe my research has nothing to do with anything and I'm just mad and powerless and a crazy demonic heretic
     even so!!!!
     Wouldn't you also help someone like that?
     I hope you have hacked my mic so you can at least hear me crying

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     @p@freespeechextremist.com @Zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com @marine@breastmilk.club
     well, they say there's a bright side for everything
     maybe I can masturbate to this tonight. Not now, though

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     • Amanda
     @amanda @Zerglingman @marine That's not the sort of thing I'm likely to be helpful with but it is a universally popular activity.
     manwaifupillow.png
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     @p@freespeechextremist.com @teratology@the.asbestos.cafe @amanda@pleroma.thezone.host
     based
     so sad there's no actual OS that relies on capabilities

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     • Iska
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     @iska @teratology @amanda Well, there's always Plan 9.
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     • Amanda
     @amanda @marine @dcc
     
     > gotta learn how to explain things without scaring people.
     
     If the man wasn't fabulously entertaining, I wouldn't have ever heard of him.
     getinthevan.mp4
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     @p@freespeechextremist.com @teratology@the.asbestos.cafe
     ah uh.
     I am kinda assuming you are talking about asbestos and that we should not proceed further.
     Okay. Stopping here.

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     @amanda @teratology Nobody can log into asbestos.
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     @Zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com @p@freespeechextremist.com @marine@breastmilk.club
     Thanks for the help!!!!!!
     

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     • Iska

     @iska@catposter.club @p@freespeechextremist.com @teratology@the.asbestos.cafe
     I have no idea if I should reply to this

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     @amanda @iska @teratology
     alwaysreply.jpg
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     • Iska
     • Amanda
     @iska @marine @teratology @amanda I don't know why I say "No root" and you take this as advocacy for a capabilities-based system. There is no point trying to stop the person that is sitting at the machine from accessing the framebuffer.
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     @amanda@pleroma.thezone.host
     @p@freespeechextremist.com
     @teratology@the.asbestos.cafe
     @marine@breastmilk.club I'm not going to count things not used by themselves (most ukernels) or that do ambient authority anyway (hurd).

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     @iska@catposter.club @p@freespeechextremist.com @teratology@the.asbestos.cafe @marine@breastmilk.club
     yeah, whatever

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     • Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯
     • 10grans
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     • pwm
     • cipote :bishrexual:
     • Maholmire
     • Iska
     • burner
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     • Amanda

     y did u tag me? i will DDoX you whole family. I hit you DHCP network offline so u no come back, yis? u fuckin with ze thunder, I have 1,000 million billion botnet pointed right at your ip my friend

     fear me

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     @p @marine @amanda Imagine ordering that
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     @Zerglingman @amanda @marine I sit not a reasonable thing to order? :neckbeard:
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     @p @amanda just to make it absolutely clear I am not the sysadmin for asbestos :doge2:
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     @teratology @amanda Nobody is, it is a flame retardant.
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     @iska @teratology @amanda It's not capability-based, no, but it doesn't have a root user. It just has a sensible permissions system.
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     @p@freespeechextremist.com @teratology@the.asbestos.cafe @amanda@pleroma.thezone.host plan 9 isn't capability based though, and modeling with pipes can only take you so far

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     @Maholmire@crlf.ninja @p@freespeechextremist.com @teratology@the.asbestos.cafe @amanda@pleroma.thezone.host Imagine trying to daily drive an operating system that barely has any software ported to it.skill issue :blobcatcool:

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     Thought the *BSD folks had it bad? Imagine trying to daily drive an operating system that barely has any software ported to it.
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     • Maholmire
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     @iska @Maholmire @teratology @amanda I don't know, sounds more like a self-imposed limitation issue: people used to sit down and flip the switch on a word processor and do a bunch of writing and then print it and turn it off. That thing had no use besides word processing, but it didn't require a lot of skill to operate if what you wanted to do was process words.
     
     
     
     
     
     Wang used to make these word processors, but I couldn't get through that paragraph the second I started to type a sentence about a secretary knowing how to operate a Wang or people that knew how to use a Wang or a Wang being easy to operate or a Wang only being good for one thing. If I can't even type it without chuckling, nobody's gonna understand what I wrote so I *ahem* removed the Wang.
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     @iska @teratology @amanda Yeah, I don't think it should be capability-based.
     
     It's not really modeled with pipes, just filesystem permissions. So on boot, one of the things that happens is the process to drive the display starts up, and whoever started it has physical access to the machine, so that user's the owner. This makes a lot more sense than X having to be suid or the really truly horrifying Xwrapper bit going on right now, it makes a lot more sense than capabilities: the account that booted this machine owns this machine. (This is also why, on multiuser clusters, the fileserver is isolated.)
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     • Iska

     @iska@catposter.club @Maholmire@crlf.ninja @p@freespeechextremist.com @teratology@the.asbestos.cafe
     
     lol
     it kinda IS actually
     shudders

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     • Machismo

     @p@freespeechextremist.com @Zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com @marine@breastmilk.club
     My only sadness of being a man is that I don't get to be that girl.

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     @Maholmire @amanda @teratology Users of asbestos can mostly claim ignorance about it. People used to put it in gloves. You know, like that.
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     Does that make all their users by extension flame retard(ant)?
     
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     @marine@breastmilk.club I don't take your support for rootless systems as advocacy for capabilities, I just shill them anyway.there is no point trying to stop the person sitting at the machine from accessing the framebufferI'm not preventing the user from anything, only the programs

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     > I'm not preventing the user from anything, only the programs
     
     The programs are the manifestation of the user within the system.
     
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     @marine@breastmilk.club this implies X11 is somehow related to capabilities
     
     In ocap systems you can just pass the framebuffer object without problem :cirno_shrug:

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     > framebuffer object
     
     :ken: "We have persistent objects. They're called files."
     
     We have a framebuffer object that can be passed around. It's a file. :kenbw:
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     > scopes/environments are cleaner than filesystems,
     
     If you think of it as something like FUSE, then yes, filesystems are terrible for this.
     
     But it's just a notation, like using memory addresses or system calls or variables. So if the system is built around filesystems being the means of accessing objects and if it's granular enough that individual threads in the same process can discard permissions, and you can enforce this by just removing part of the namespace before starting a program, then no, not remotely, filesystems are great for this.
     
     Say you want, by default, to only provide framebuffer access to the children of the processes of the user that is sitting at the machine. You can do that by only letting one process have access to it, and then that process provides an interface to it, that interface is a filesystem, and mounts are inherited only by child processes, so it's about as secure as a local variable. You wanna export it, you wanna provide its contents to the entire internet, you can do that (without requiring that UID 0 mediate access).
     
     > more efficient as checks and lookups only have to be done at compile time.
     
     Oh, if you're talking about how OpenBSD does it, that's cool. The only issue is that you can't do it for interpreters, and it's all kinda retrofitted onto POSIX but is itself not part of POSIX. I like what Theo did but there's a lot you can do if you discard compatibility rather than just poking some holes in it.
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     @marine@breastmilk.club scopes/environments are cleaner than filesystems, and also more efficient as checks and lookups only have to be done at compile time.

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     @p

     I always enjoyed there's a world-ending event everyone knows about, heros arrive, and the shopkeepers remain stalwart in charging full price for healing potions.

     @marine @amanda

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     @ghast @marine @amanda Rampant price-fixing, too.
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     Last I looked, doas was less secure than sudo in Linux. I believe that will eventually change.

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     > Files often aren't as fun to work with as the data structures in the programming language,
     
     So you wrap it in an API call.
     
     > why would I want my machine less fun?
     
     What are the permissions systems on the fun OSs, like C64 BASIC ROM, or TempleOS, or something like that?
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     Files often aren't as fun to work with as the data structures in the programming language, and why would I want my machine less fun?

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     > I'm talking about a high level language directly dereferencing a shared pointer to an object,
     
     Oh, if you're talking about that, it's a mental trap aimed at coders. You end up having to port it to every language on the system.
     
     > systems like hurd
     
     Not a huge fan.
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     @marine@breastmilk.club if you're talking about how openbsd does it, that's coolI don't know how OBSD does things, I'm talking about a high level language directly dereferencing a shared pointer to an object, when systems like hurd constantly check that no forgery is done

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     > Wan't Hurd the orginal RMS Kernel for GNU ?
     
     HURD was an OS designed to be POSIX-compatible and GNU was the userspace. GNU was always sort of intended to provide a base system, so that any proprietary software could be replaced with the GNU equivalent, and HURD was the attempt to put it all in one place. The kernel was Mach or L4 depending on what year it was. I made some jokes about their failure to deliver a working system once over lunch at work, and my coworker snorted and I found out that the guy eating his food (not a burrito, I forget what it was) was Thomas Bushnell, the guy tasked with adapting and integrating the kernel. The switch was kind of dictated by rms and created a lot of work for Thomas (whose name back then was Michael but he had since joined the Brotherhood of St. Gregory and apparently when you do that, you change your name, and also ", BSG" was added to his name, like it's not a title, his name is "Thomas Bushnell, BSG").
     
     I think he works at Google now, we haven't talked a lot since. There are soldiers (who love their country) and mercenaries (who don't) and Thomas is firmly in the "soldier" camp and I'm all the way in the "mercenary" camp. I love my work but I don't think I have ever loved a job, and he loves Google because he's at Google, and this kind of thing clashes.
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     @p @marine @iska @amanda @teratology Wan't Hurd the orginal RMS Kernel for GNU ?
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     @p@freespeechextremist.com @marine@breastmilk.club @teratology@the.asbestos.cafe @amanda@pleroma.thezone.host So you wrap it in an API call.at some point you wrap things so hard you'll turn plan9 into genera

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     @iska @marine @teratology @amanda Not really. That hasn't happened to Plan 9, there's no reason to expect it will.
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     @iska @marine @teratology @amanda I think it would have happened if it were going to. They managed to leave out a lot of stuff and it still does what you expect more often than Linux and with less weird shit to go through to get there.
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     @p@freespeechextremist.com @marine@breastmilk.club @teratology@the.asbestos.cafe @amanda@pleroma.thezone.host that's because the people who'd do that just come to use such system (i.e squeak) directly

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     Don't forget to use the Incognito Mode though, it might get hectic out there :marseylaughwith:
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