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@jeffcliff @d0c40r0 @dictatordave You should recognize that your comfort with being alone or limited in your physical time is not a universal thing. I'm not even mocking you for that either, but there are people who literally would be dead without the regular interactions they get with family and friends. Sometimes they just lose their will to live, and that doesn't even mean they consciously take their own lives. I've seen, pre-covid, at least 20 husband and wife die within months of each other as a result of the depressed mood and loneliness. It sucks man, especially for people who have 70+ years of living a certain way.
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@moesha @d0c40r0 @dictatordave @jeffcliff Or you can just live your life and be fine. A lot of people choose to do that. And I have to say, if COVID issues over and this is as bad as it's always been, lockdowns were a total waste of time. I don't fault people who choose to wear a mask in public today, but I'm not going to unless I'm actually sick.
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@BowsacNoodle @d0c40r0 @dictatordave @jeffcliff
> but there are people who literally would be dead without the regular interactions they get with family and friends.
You can do both. Wear masks + meet outdoors or in place with proper ventilation. Life is a balancing act.
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@BowsacNoodle @d0c40r0 @dictatordave @jeffcliff Fine, at least you have the courtesy to wear one if sick. You never know what the virus can do to someone. I was and still am against the mandates, people should make their own health choices.
> lockdowns were a total waste of time
It was one of the only reasonable options at the time, when we didn't know anything about the virus.
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@moesha @d0c40r0 @dictatordave I've had this discussion several times with @jeffcliff . My statement meant exactly how I wrote it: if COVID is "not over" and it's still equally bad to how it was originally, lockdowns were a waste of time. If things have changed from mutations, new information, etc. then that's a different story.
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@BowsacNoodle @d0c40r0 @dictatordave @jeffcliff
>if COVID is "not over" and it's still equally bad to how it was originally, lockdowns were a waste of time.
I agree contingent on "it's still equally bad to how it was originally", however it's not as bad as it was originally.
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@moesha @d0c40r0 @dictatordave @jeffcliff That took me a few re-reads to understand. That's my opinion as well. I was cautious because I had a ton of pregnant ladies and old people in my family and friend group. Once enough people got it I reevaluated things and became less concerned. I am not convinced that the average person suffers long term damage, and I'm personally immune after two extremely mild bouts that were literally only hours long.
>Oh no, I'm cold for no reason. Better take a nap. Hey I'm fine now, three hours later and got no other symptoms as the week progressed.
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@BowsacNoodle @d0c40r0 @dictatordave @jeffcliff
>I am not convinced that the average person suffers long term damage
I agree, it's only 10-30% of infections that result in long covid.
I also think that most people that get "long covid" it's not the severe type, it's usually something like loss of taste of smell or a nagging cough. And even most of those people recover eventually. They still live life normally. Those long covid subreddits represent a small minority of people that have severe symptoms and still haven't recovered
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@moesha @BowsacNoodle @d0c40r0 @jeffcliff long covid sounds like a catchall bullshit basket like autism
its fakery nonsense to cover for lazy fake science
people are getting fukt up from neurotoxins in the shots, they're getting fukt up from a flu that was engineered by the chinese to probably have a more severe effect on certain genes, they've only been talking about it for decades
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@dictatordave @moesha @d0c40r0 @jeffcliff There's stuff you can find from pre 2019 about viral mariokartitis and it's a real thing. Certain mostly harmless things can kill you, like mononucleosis causing severe heart damage or influenzas causing brain fog and such that lasts for a while. I know someone who had long COVID and was unvaccinated (I am also unvaccinated) and ended up getting blood clots in his legs with pain that lasted for many months despite no detectable damage. Funny enough, getting COVID again made it go away completely. Anecdotal, but I've heard of similar things from people on the long COVID struggle bus from vax symptoms disappearing once they get COVID and recover.
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@moesha @BowsacNoodle @d0c40r0 @jeffcliff regardless, it doesn't mean the government gets to curtail freedoms without consequences, and time has now proven that jeff and all the authoritarian faggots were wrong, and someone's gonna pay, i dont care who and how many but when the normies figure this out, do you think they'll be kind to the zealots or do you think it'll be violence for murdering and sterilizing their kids?