@dictatordave @moesha @d0c40r0 @jeffcliff There's stuff you can find from pre 2019 about viral mariokartitis and it's a real thing. Certain mostly harmless things can kill you, like mononucleosis causing severe heart damage or influenzas causing brain fog and such that lasts for a while. I know someone who had long COVID and was unvaccinated (I am also unvaccinated) and ended up getting blood clots in his legs with pain that lasted for many months despite no detectable damage. Funny enough, getting COVID again made it go away completely. Anecdotal, but I've heard of similar things from people on the long COVID struggle bus from vax symptoms disappearing once they get COVID and recover.