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Griffith (griffith@5dollah.click)'s status on Sunday, 05-Nov-2023 10:30:47 JST Griffith
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@WoodshopHandman what happens when society works against you.
Someone’s enjoying that extra productivity.

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  Wolfgirl in Wheatfield (wgiwf@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 05-Nov-2023 10:30:43 JST Wolfgirl in Wheatfield
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  @WoodshopHandman @Griffith The point at which machines stop serving man and man instead serves the machine is when society reaches the point of no return.
  
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  BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 05-Nov-2023 10:30:43 JST BowserNoodle ☦️
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  @wgiwf @WoodshopHandman @Griffith Total robot death. The scene from the matrix where they bash the robots with baseball bats and throw them into a pit? Sign me up for that. I'll even dig the hole if it means I get more swings. Kill robots.
  
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  Woodshop ? (woodshophandman@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 05-Nov-2023 10:30:44 JST Woodshop ?
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  @Griffith >It’s not all bad
  You see this is where I disagree. Quicker and safer modes of transportation suck the nationality, regionality, and locality away and communities die, especially when dependency on these systems becomes the norm. Yeah, it's *technically* people's fault for using those things in that way, but you could also make the argument that using them in that way was inevitable, a feature instead of a bug.
  On the whole, industrial technology and all the developments thereafter are focused on EFFICIENCY above all else, and it's therefore doomed to always be a hinderance to humanity, because humans, people, aren't efficient. We're not meant to be numbers on a spreadsheet. We're meant to be spread out and separated so we develop unique vernacular cultures. The more we invent and use these gay machines the more we as a society become gay machines.
  
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  Woodshop ? (woodshophandman@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 05-Nov-2023 10:30:45 JST Woodshop ?
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  @Griffith Yeah and we *could* fly if we grew wings and our asses became jet thrusters, but the reality of things just ain't having it.
  
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  Griffith (griffith@5dollah.click)'s status on Sunday, 05-Nov-2023 10:30:45 JST Griffith
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  @WoodshopHandman I think you missed the point. I mean, we did build airplanes and now traveling from Tokyo to London is 18 hours. It’s not all bad, it doesn’t really have to be bad at all. I blame people for the failure others place on machines. They haven’t really done anything wrong except what people have done with them.
  It’s not like things didn’t get better for a long time before they started getting worse. We did go from children in coal mines to children in school and the prosperity of America in the 20th century.
  
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  Griffith (griffith@5dollah.click)'s status on Sunday, 05-Nov-2023 10:30:46 JST Griffith
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  @WoodshopHandman I don’t think so. I think you *could* make it work for everyone. With more efficient machines you *could* have less time at work. You *could* have more for everyone. Instead, we see what happens when people are turned into economic units, and put into a tax farm. Then, technology does just make the tax farm more efficient.
  
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  Woodshop ? (woodshophandman@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 05-Nov-2023 10:30:47 JST Woodshop ?
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  @Griffith Me myself personally I think it's had a severely negative impact on everyone at every level, even those malicious sorts that wanted it implemented for theur own selfish or nefarious purposes
  
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  BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 05-Nov-2023 10:38:03 JST BowserNoodle ☦️
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  @rightwingsjw @wgiwf @WoodshopHandman @Griffith 3 law safe genocide.
  
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  Right-wing SJW :windmill_of_friendship: (rightwingsjw@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 05-Nov-2023 10:38:04 JST Right-wing SJW :windmill_of_friendship:
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  @BowsacNoodle @wgiwf @WoodshopHandman @Griffith safe genocide
  
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  BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 05-Nov-2023 10:44:12 JST BowserNoodle ☦️
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  @Griffith @WoodshopHandman @rightwingsjw @wgiwf Exactly. Hence why I view androids attempting to be human as abominations. It's the robotic equivalent of a tranny. Horrible people believe we will one day "have to" give them the right to vote. Those people are ignorant and dangerous.
  
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  Griffith (griffith@5dollah.click)'s status on Sunday, 05-Nov-2023 10:44:13 JST Griffith
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  @BowsacNoodle @WoodshopHandman @rightwingsjw @wgiwf where does the idea a machine can have a soul come from? Doesn’t it imply consciousness is emergent? Isn’t it a strictly material understanding?
  
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  Griffith (griffith@5dollah.click)'s status on Sunday, 05-Nov-2023 10:50:17 JST Griffith
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  @BowsacNoodle @WoodshopHandman @rightwingsjw @wgiwf I wouldn’t view them that way. I simply don’t view them as qualitatively different from a robot that sorts packages into boxes. I might want to have a battlewaifu, I might even get attached to it like my car, but it’d be a tool like a screwdriver. That doesn’t make it less valuable imo.
  If you want to know where the real interesting discourse is, talk genetics. We know humans have souls, and the human body is imperfect. What could argument would be leveraged against curing blindness, or any disease with a genetic component (pretty much all of them). How far will we go with that?
  
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  BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 05-Nov-2023 10:53:23 JST BowserNoodle ☦️
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  @Griffith @WoodshopHandman @rightwingsjw @wgiwf Bioethics is its own can of worms. The risk of homogenization into dangerous territory would definitely be a thing, but that would depends on civilization cooperating and not crumbling in the inevitable eugenics wars that sprung from this. I am all but certain there are children alive today in multiple countries who are genetically engineered with higher IQs, stamina, etc.
  
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  LurkPerry (lurkperry@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 05-Nov-2023 10:58:31 JST LurkPerry
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  @BowsacNoodle @Griffith @WoodshopHandman @rightwingsjw @wgiwf Why wouldn't you save her?
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  BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 05-Nov-2023 10:58:31 JST BowserNoodle ☦️
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  @LurkPerry @Griffith @WoodshopHandman @rightwingsjw @wgiwf Me on the left. With the hammer. Having a great time.
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  Paultron-3030 (paultron@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 05-Nov-2023 11:02:20 JST Paultron-3030
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  @Griffith @BowsacNoodle @WoodshopHandman @rightwingsjw @wgiwf you say you wouldn't get attached but every time we give niggas robots they get attached. soldiers having funeral services for their mine clearing bots
  
  my favorite bio ethical issue is what happens when white collar jobs are locked behind computer-brain interfaces because it increases efficiency by like 400%
  very realistic to have these things have way more efficient data entry and manipulation
  
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  BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 05-Nov-2023 11:02:20 JST BowserNoodle ☦️
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  @Paultron @Griffith @WoodshopHandman @rightwingsjw @wgiwf Transhumanism is dangerous for the same reason. We could create a hard tiered society which creates a dependency on a potentially vulnerable thing.
  >Oops the implants mess with DNA and everyone is sterile in a few generations
  >oops there was a computer virus and everyone logging in with a A4NJ-3 protocol had a stroke
  >Oops the implant people decided to band together to screw everyone else over and basically formed The Borg.
  
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  BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 05-Nov-2023 11:05:39 JST BowserNoodle ☦️
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  @Griffith @WoodshopHandman @rightwingsjw @wgiwf >Diversity... Wooden ships
  I enjoyed anchor man.
  >Here’s a question: Has the internet expanded diversity, or not?
  Homogenization. Hardcore. People self censor (big brother approach) and californication aka globohomo creep. Distinction between my Internet and your Internet potentially thousands of miles away is basically null. One of the appeals of fedi is it allows diversity to exist and manifest accordingly.
  
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  Griffith (griffith@5dollah.click)'s status on Sunday, 05-Nov-2023 11:05:40 JST Griffith
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  @BowsacNoodle @WoodshopHandman @rightwingsjw @wgiwf I’m not certain about any of that, mostly because I’m not sure grasping and modifying genetics is that within our grasp yet. In no small part because it’s a holistic endeavor, but I think we could be on the cusp of it, and the sky’s the limit once we get into that.
  The point about homogenization is interesting, but I think it’s an inevitability on our current course in part due to globalization. On the other hand it could open up possibilities for diversity, but I think the real potential for a re-emergence of multiculturalism has to come from expansion. It’s entirely possible earth is too small, and it’s not like wooden ships were enough to constrain us from intercontinental expansion. Maybe the only way to enable diversity is expansion.
  Here’s a question: Has the internet expanded diversity, or not?
  
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  Griffith (griffith@5dollah.click)'s status on Sunday, 05-Nov-2023 11:06:56 JST Griffith
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  @Paultron @BowsacNoodle @WoodshopHandman @rightwingsjw @wgiwf I guess it’s an interesting question. If we pulled back, where would we pull back too? We’ve already got potatoes. We already discovered the New World, England has been drinking tea for hundreds of years. Maybe the urge to retvrn is towards a state of permanent stability, rather than permanent flux?
  
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  BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 05-Nov-2023 11:08:55 JST BowserNoodle ☦️
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  @Griffith @WoodshopHandman @rightwingsjw @wgiwf If people used it accordingly, yes.
  
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  Griffith (griffith@5dollah.click)'s status on Sunday, 05-Nov-2023 11:08:56 JST Griffith
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  @BowsacNoodle @WoodshopHandman @rightwingsjw @wgiwf Maybe that’s one of the strengths of the internet? It’s reach is homogenizing but it’s environment is diversifying?
  
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  LurkPerry (lurkperry@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 05-Nov-2023 11:10:29 JST LurkPerry
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  @BowsacNoodle @Griffith @WoodshopHandman @rightwingsjw @wgiwf Me in the back squatting staring at android booba
  
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  BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 05-Nov-2023 11:10:29 JST BowserNoodle ☦️
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  @LurkPerry @Griffith @WoodshopHandman @rightwingsjw @wgiwf I wish they had more of these with a male Android. I can't help but think this is partially a snuff fetishist fan teaser.
  
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  BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 05-Nov-2023 11:12:29 JST BowserNoodle ☦️
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  @King_Noticer @Griffith @WoodshopHandman @rightwingsjw @wgiwf >SOME PEOPLE
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  King_Noticer (king_noticer@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 05-Nov-2023 11:12:30 JST King_Noticer
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  @BowsacNoodle @Griffith @WoodshopHandman @rightwingsjw @wgiwf The problem is that SOME PEOPLE want to raid other spaces that aren’t for them and change it until all the places are the same
  
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  Griffith (griffith@5dollah.click)'s status on Sunday, 05-Nov-2023 11:13:20 JST Griffith
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  @BowsacNoodle @WoodshopHandman @rightwingsjw @wgiwf I think they do. Look at the radical shifts in not merely opinion but ways people view the world. It’s not merely a digital printing press. It’s shifted society, and in good ways, if Israel gets destroyed in the end and they all get sent to Madagascar, among many, many, many other things.
  For all the perks of 1950’s society, Rockwell would have killed to have access to the internet.
  
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  LurkPerry (lurkperry@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 05-Nov-2023 11:15:38 JST LurkPerry
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  @BowsacNoodle @Griffith @WoodshopHandman @rightwingsjw @wgiwf Yeah I think it's for sympathy instead of the audience seeing some android dude in a wife beater getting torn to shreds which no one would care about unless you're a soy filled redditor asking himself if we're actually the soulless robots all along.
  
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  King_Noticer (king_noticer@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 29-Feb-2024 05:14:43 JST King_Noticer
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  @BowsacNoodle @LurkPerry @Griffith @WoodshopHandman @rightwingsjw @wgiwf Yeah, I can’t fully get invested in my robot wrath if the thing is begging for mercy with the voice and eyes of a cute woman
  
  This is probably why they shill cute robo girls so hard
  
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  Right-wing SJW :windmill_of_friendship: (rightwingsjw@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 29-Feb-2024 05:14:49 JST Right-wing SJW :windmill_of_friendship:
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  @LurkPerry @BowsacNoodle @Griffith @WoodshopHandman @wgiwf it is a libtard civil rights allegory
  
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