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WhatsApp is (in bad faith) notifying EU users of changes to their privacy policy regarding “legitimate interest” under GDPR.
Why bad faith?
1. The FAQ page about the changes requires you to accept cookies, and the “Learn more” button only tells you how to disable cookies entirely in browser settings.
2. The option to object to “legitimate interest” processing requires you to give your email along with your WhatsApp number so they can “get in touch”.
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HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
People, stop using #Meta products.
There are already so many right-wing governments.
You compromise your current or at least future security (e.g. profiling using LLMs.)
Use #Threema or #Signal instead.
#DeleteWhatsApp
#DeleteThreads
#DeleteFacebook
#DeleteInstagram
#DeleteTwitter
#DeleteTikTok
Data collection comparison of messenger services (found on the web):
HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
@Laberpferd
100%
However, I have registered #Threema without having to provide my cell number, it is optional.
Of course, I have to use mobile internet, when I am on the move, but I can use a VPN.
So, where do you see the risk with #threema?
And, besides, mobile phone calls and SMS seem a lot lesse secure to me.
I once had a discussion with a cyber security pro what means of communication is really safe: meet at a remote location in person, that's about it.
Point being:
Laberpferd
I completely agree about avoiding Whatsapp
Unfortunately, Signal or Threema only work with a mobile phone to sign up (same for Telegram which Furries absolutely demand to exclusively use)
Depending on which state you live (germany for example) it might be impossible to get a anonymous SIM card and therefore just have no useable number
Its beyond my red line to be personally verified and legally attached to a phone that can track all my movement and interactions
HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
...there's no 100% security.
HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
@Laberpferd
100%.
So, what do you do if you need a phone for your life but live in a country where this is required.
Also, I have read a bit about #Threema. If you do not provide your cell phone number, there is no information whatsover on their servers about who ist doing what that can be linked back to your phone, at leas that is my understanding so far.
I have done quite some data integration from different sources. If there is no primary key that liks across sources (or...
Laberpferd
@HistoPol @thatmanmatt
> So, where do you see the risk with #threema
No risk with Threema
Its over my personal red line where i have to legally verify name, address and face photo to get a SIM card in the first place
Then anything i do around the phone around is attached to my person and can be taken for legal or illegal use
This is espically worrying me with the rising fascism
Laberpferd
@HistoPol @thatmanmatt
The last time i looked at #Threema (a few years ago) it was mandatory to run it as app on a phone.
Did i miss a major change and it can now be used on a #Linux Laptop without a phone?
No sarcasm, im seriously interested.
Also which anonymous payment options do i have in germany, perhaps give someone cash?
HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
...and attribute field that can be linked with another source). So, as long as you do not provide a PII like a name, etc., in your posts, I think you are quite safe.
Of course, any other form of communication from your phone is not safe. But that is beside the point and why I would use #Threema whenever possible.
HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
Good for you. I won't b/c I might always need it in case of accident (e.g. cycling through fields, forests, etc.).
But, of course I understand that there are many countries with regimes where these concerns might be minor in comparison.
Laberpferd
So far i can still live without a phone
HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
I feel your concern strongly and share it, no sarcasm (which I use, too, but mark s/: ...s/), was detected. )
Here it says that there is a Win desktop app and a web client, you might want to take a look:
https://threema.ch/de/download
Payment: I only know of one e-mail provider, where you can realy send in money by mail. A question of trust.
HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
I have never seen any information on those.
But I like #TheMatrix trilogy. ;)
Laberpferd
So i am all for XMPP/Jabber and Matrix
HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
I have removed you from all my replies, sorry.
And: I have recreated this important post, which I boost from time to time, in my own timeline:
Laberpferd
@thatmanmatt
oops, sorry, SORRY
Done
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@HistoPol @Laberpferd please untag me from your replies, or start your own conversation. Thanks.
Laberpferd
@HistoPol
I strongly suggest you chck them out
XMPP is a classic since decades, but has somewhat falen out of fashion after it was abandoned by Bigtech
Matrix still has issues with key sharing across multiple devices, but is emerging pretty well in Mastodon and i also have heard that Thunderbird has an Matrix client function in paralell to E-Mail
HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
Yep, it is. And it works. I just purchased it this way.
Also, if you install the Threema Libre version from F-Droid and do NOT insert your smartphone number, you are rather completely anonymos.
(Downside: you cannot find your friends using search for phone number or e-mail, but that IMO is not the point for an anonymized messenger service.)
Chris Ely
Cash is now an option. So, no phone number needed and no app store account or payment details needed either.
https://mastodon.social/users/threemaapp/statuses/111142706244568683
HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
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Ich nehme an, mit LSR 1) ist das Leistungsschutzrecht für Presseverleger gemeint?
Ich bin da kein Spezialist, meine mich aber an eine ähnliche unsägliche Diskussion in Australien in den letzten 2 Jahren erinnern zu können, m.E. ging es da auch um #Facebook.2)
Damals wurden (anfänglich?)kleinere Verlage benachteiligt.
Dieses Mal scheinen jedoch Publikationen einfach gesperrt zu werden.
Eine ganz andere Dimension...
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https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leistungsschutzrecht_f%C3%BCr_Presseverleger
HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
UPDATE
#Meta now blocks all professional and private reposts of news organizations from anywhere for its #Canadian users
This is what happens when you give too much power to a private company.
It is time to #BreakUpMeta
In the meantime: stop using its products!
thomas bohn
@HistoPol das liegt jedoch an einem gesetz ähnlich dem lsr für presseverlage in europa
HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
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Wenn man sich ansieht, wie stark die Pressefreiheit und Medienvielfalt iSv Meinungsvielfalt beispielsweise seit dem Markteintritt von #Murdoch und bedungt auch seit der Übernahme der #WaPo durch #Bezos 3) sowie wohl künftig durch die Übernahme von #Politico 4) durch den #Springer-Konzern zurückgegangen ist.
Insbesondere durch #FoxNews sind...
HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
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...m.E. massive Schäden v.a. durch #FakeNews und gezielten #Desinformations-Kampagnen zu beobachten.
Insofern sehe ich diese Gesetze kritisch.
Um einen Ausgleich zwischen den Existenz-Interessen der Medienhäuser und dem Informationsbedürfnis der Bevölkerung zu erzielen, bräuchte es m.E. eine Art #GEMA.
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