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    anime graf mays ?️? (graf@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 27-Aug-2023 20:56:38 JST anime graf mays ?️? anime graf mays ?️?
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    • 313Chris:hellokitty_headbang:
    • John Rando
    • verita84 :Debian_logo: :firefox: :bing: :android:
    • Parker Banks

    i assessed the damage on this and it looks like the extent of federation this instance did with us was:

    Aug 20 19:31 UTC: poast becomes aware of this instance, some old media federates (like early 2021 files)

    nothing between Aug 21 - Aug 24

    Aug 24 00:45 UTC: some more really old media

    then nothing until

    Aug 26 00:34 UTC: more old and some new media

    this is where it gets interesting, they are federating from this IP:

    65.109.84.183

    cat /var/log/nginx/access.log | grep 'https://fediverse.smat-app.com'

    edit: removed poastcdn ips false alarm

    @sjw @p @Moon @parker @verita84 @admin

    RT: https://poa.st/objects/9f33c6cc-49a5-4e91-9129-c912a1f6c245

    In conversation Sunday, 27-Aug-2023 20:56:38 JST from poa.st permalink

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      pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 27-Aug-2023 20:56:33 JST pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:
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      @Cocoa @sjw @graf @verita84 @Moon @admin @parker

      :fan::ddr_l: Average IPv6 address blocking fan
      :enjoyer::ddr_l: Average IPv6-disabled kernel enjoyer
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      Cocoa Hoto (cocoa@mocha.hoto.rocks)'s status on Sunday, 27-Aug-2023 20:56:34 JST Cocoa Hoto Cocoa Hoto
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      @graf@poa.st @sjw@bae.st @p@freespeechextremist.com @verita84@poster.place @Moon@shitposter.club @admin@detroitriotcity.com @parker@pl.psion.co I found their IPv6 address they used to access my server, block accordingly 2a01:4f9:3051:52a7::2

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      anime graf mays ?️? (graf@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 27-Aug-2023 20:56:35 JST anime graf mays ?️? anime graf mays ?️?
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      • Cocoa Hoto
      @Cocoa @sjw @p @verita84 @Moon @admin @parker false alarm friend, they were fetching media through poastcdn so 109.205.211.46 and 104.244.73.183 are us, sorry i only got 2 hours of sleep last night!
      In conversation Sunday, 27-Aug-2023 20:56:35 JST permalink
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      Cocoa Hoto (cocoa@mocha.hoto.rocks)'s status on Sunday, 27-Aug-2023 20:56:35 JST Cocoa Hoto Cocoa Hoto
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      @graf@poa.st @sjw@bae.st @p@freespeechextremist.com @verita84@poster.place @Moon@shitposter.club @admin@detroitriotcity.com @parker@pl.psion.co fixed, thank you friend

      In conversation Sunday, 27-Aug-2023 20:56:35 JST permalink
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      Cocoa Hoto (cocoa@mocha.hoto.rocks)'s status on Sunday, 27-Aug-2023 20:56:37 JST Cocoa Hoto Cocoa Hoto
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      @graf@poa.st @sjw@bae.st @p@freespeechextremist.com @Moon@shitposter.club @parker@pl.psion.co @verita84@poster.place @admin@detroitriotcity.com just blocked those IPs, thanks graf

      In conversation Sunday, 27-Aug-2023 20:56:37 JST permalink
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      ロミンちゃん (romin@shitposter.club)'s status on Sunday, 27-Aug-2023 20:57:52 JST ロミンちゃん ロミンちゃん
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      @p @sjw @admin @Cocoa @parker @graf @verita84 @Moon remember kids to add ipv6.disable=1 to your cmdline :l_well:

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      Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Sunday, 27-Aug-2023 21:00:28 JST Sexy Moon Sexy Moon
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      @p @sjw @admin @sysrq @parker @graf @john_rando @verita84 I know you can never stop it but it took just a minute to add a block that might work for a while.
      In conversation Sunday, 27-Aug-2023 21:00:28 JST permalink
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      @sysrq @Moon @admin @graf @john_rando @parker @sjw @verita84 Ultimately, UA is client-supplied and thus useless, but it never hurts to pay attention to it.
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      tsoifan1997 (sysrq@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Sunday, 27-Aug-2023 21:00:30 JST tsoifan1997 tsoifan1997
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      @graf @Moon @admin @john_rando @p @parker @sjw @verita84
      also worth mentioning is that their user agent is "http.rb/5.1.1 (Mastodon/4.2.0-beta1; +https://fediverse.smat-app.com/)", just in case they try something funny with using a different ip
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      tsoifan1997 (sysrq@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Sunday, 27-Aug-2023 21:00:31 JST tsoifan1997 tsoifan1997
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      @graf @sjw @admin @p @parker @john_rando @verita84 @Moon
      nuked the ip
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      pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 27-Aug-2023 21:15:34 JST pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:
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      @verita84 @sjw @Cocoa @Moon @admin @graf @parker I can't see that image because Cloudflare.

      If I were to start blocking something based on choice of hosting provider, it'd be Cloudflare. I cannot because too many instances that FSE federates with are still behind Cloudflare.
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      verita84 :Debian_logo: :firefox: :bing: :android: (verita84@poster.place)'s status on Sunday, 27-Aug-2023 21:15:35 JST verita84 :Debian_logo: :firefox: :bing: :android: verita84 :Debian_logo: :firefox: :bing: :android:
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      @sjw @admin @p @Cocoa @parker @graf @Moon
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      Your New Marijuana Injecting Waifu :weed: (sjw@bae.st)'s status on Sunday, 27-Aug-2023 21:15:36 JST Your New Marijuana Injecting Waifu :weed: Your New Marijuana Injecting Waifu :weed:
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      @graf @admin @p @Cocoa @parker @verita84 @Moon yeah they don't really host anything of value. Reckon we should build a (fire) wall?
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      anime graf mays ?️? (graf@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 27-Aug-2023 21:15:37 JST anime graf mays ?️? anime graf mays ?️?
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      @sjw @admin @p @Cocoa @parker @verita84 @Moon we drop several of their v6 subnets because of DDoS
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      anime graf mays ?️? (graf@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 27-Aug-2023 21:15:38 JST anime graf mays ?️? anime graf mays ?️?
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      @sjw @Cocoa @admin @p @parker @verita84 @Moon fuck hetzner all my homies hate hetzner
      In conversation Sunday, 27-Aug-2023 21:15:38 JST permalink
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      Your New Marijuana Injecting Waifu :weed: (sjw@bae.st)'s status on Sunday, 27-Aug-2023 21:15:38 JST Your New Marijuana Injecting Waifu :weed: Your New Marijuana Injecting Waifu :weed:
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      @graf @admin @p @Cocoa @parker @verita84 @Moon I legit wonder if blocking their ASN is a bad idea. They're a cancer company that seems to attract cancer. Any fedi server hosted on Hetzner doesn't have anything of value on it anyway.
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      Your New Marijuana Injecting Waifu :weed: (sjw@bae.st)'s status on Sunday, 27-Aug-2023 21:15:39 JST Your New Marijuana Injecting Waifu :weed: Your New Marijuana Injecting Waifu :weed:
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      @Cocoa @graf @p @verita84 @Moon @admin @parker I'll just reject that whole /64
      In conversation Sunday, 27-Aug-2023 21:15:39 JST permalink
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      pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 27-Aug-2023 22:08:17 JST pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:
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      @romin @Cocoa @Moon @admin @graf @parker @sjw @verita84

      :mycomputer: cd /usr/src/linux-$(uname -r); sudo sed -i 's/^CONFIG_IPV6=[ym]/# CONFIG_IPV6 is not enabled/' .config
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      pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 30-Aug-2023 20:56:59 JST pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:
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      @pomstan @Cocoa @Moon @admin @graf @parker @sjw @verita84 I don't know what this means.
      nhs-stool-chart.gif
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      ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Wednesday, 30-Aug-2023 20:56:59 JST ?? Humpleupagus ?? ?? Humpleupagus ??
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      Do you want the chocolate cover raisins, the nutty bar, the tootsie roll, or the hot caramel? 🤔
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      @p @sjw @admin @Cocoa @parker @graf @verita84 @Moon

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      @p >It's just IPv4 but we've changed the size of the address space to either 64 or 128 bits
      That would break compatibility with everything entirely and would require making modifications to every single IPv4 device.

      Every single "solution" to the IPv4 address exhaustion problem I've read either would lead to things being more broken than before, or would be way more complicated and burdensome to implement than just leaving IPv6 enabled.

      >Maybe someone *is* doing it.
      Why would anyone be wasting their time implementing brokenness when IPv6 is the solution?
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      i'm an old fart, and have forgotten most of what little i ever knew about this, but for me, the most infuriating thing is that our cars (not my car, it's >7 yrs old) will now have routeable IP addresses.
      and no one remembers the occasional story of a child with a tablet hacking daddy's jeep, or whatever.

      . . perhaps IPv7 will just be IPv4 with 48-bit addresses.

      yeah i know, never happen
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      @not_br549 @l @sjw @admin @Cocoa @parker @graf @verita84 @Moon

      > . . perhaps IPv7 will just be IPv4 with 48-bit addresses.

      I would immediately convert if someone made "It's just IPv4 but we've changed the size of the address space to either 64 or 128 bits and it works with regular IPv4 because the address format is $addr.ipv.n.arpa and IPvN systems treat that as an address but IPv4-only systems try to resolve it as a hostname and DNS providers return a special bridge address for it". I'd be excited to adopt such a protocol. There's very little downside, and then there's the obvious upside: more address space. IPv6 has a lot of terrible stuff and the upside is too much address space.

      > yeah i know, never happen

      If someone does it, it will. Maybe someone *is* doing it.
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      @l @Cocoa @Moon @admin @graf @parker @sjw @verita84 If IPv6 was *just* a matter of having more address bits, that would be fine. It's a whole bunch of other stuff, a lot of it is terrible and will never be fixed and

      Like systemd and Rust, its proponents refuse to acknowledge (or even address) the serious problems and they will show up and yell, and I don't have the time and I don't want to get dragged off-topic. If you read the RFCs (1627 is informative), IPv6 is inextricably tied to the internet's "utopian/accelerationist" contingent, and the idea is to refuse to address the problems or fix anything until *after* universal adoption.

      Here's a screenshot of some of my utterances and then for a somewhat more thorough treatment from someone that actually knows what he is talking about, here are a couple of links:

      "The world in which IPv6 was a good idea", which is both interesting and broad: https://apenwarr.ca/log/20170810
      Follow-up to the above by the same author: https://tailscale.com/blog/two-internets-both-flakey/

      (Shitposting aside, neither IPv4 nor IPv6 is going away and I will start caring about IPv6 only when I have to.)
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        The world in which IPv6 was a good design
        Last November I went to an IETF meeting for the first time. The IETF is an interesting place; it seems to be about 1/3 maintenance grunt wo...
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        IPv4, IPv6, and a sudden change in attitude
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        A few years ago I wrote The World in Which IPv6 was a Good Design. I’m still pretty proud of that article, but I thought I should update it a bit. No, I’m not switching sides. IPv6 is just as far away from universal adoption, or being a “good design” for our world, as it was three years ago. But since then I co-founded a company that turned out to be accidentally based on the principles I outlined in that article. Or rather, from turning those principles upside-down. In that article, I explored the overall history of networking and the considerations that led to IPv6. I’m not going to cover that ground again. Instead, I want to talk about attitude.
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      l:3nya (l@a.awootism.club)'s status on Wednesday, 30-Aug-2023 21:03:45 JST l:3nya l:3nya
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      @p @sjw @admin @Cocoa @parker @graf @verita84 @Moon how ipv6 is bad? doesn't it make the internet less centralized cuz there's less central entities holding all ips (as with ipv4)?
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      @sjw @graf @Cocoa @Moon @admin @parker @verita84 delet ipv6
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      @graf @admin @p @Cocoa @parker @verita84 @Moon you should block that whole /64 really.
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      @Cocoa @sjw @p @verita84 @Moon @admin @parker for anybody using ipv6:

      sudo ip6tables -I INPUT -s 2a01:4f9:3051:52a7::/64 -j DROP sudo ip6tables -I OUTPUT -s 2a01:4f9:3051:52a7::/64 -j DROP sudo ip6tables-save
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      @not_br549 Your car should not have a connection to the internet, but if it does, a typical IPv4 setup is LESS secure than a decent IPv6 setup.

      NAT is not a firewall and can be bypassed with numerous techniques.

      You WANT routeable IP addresses so you can connect reliably to any computer on the internet, instead of having to deal with terrible routing tables (thanks to CIDR) and having to use NAT holepunching all the time.

      If you want to surely deny unrequested external connections, you need a firewall and not NAT, but even assuming there is no firewall, attackers would need to figure out what IPv6 addresses you're using first up.

      A single /64 worth of IPv6 is designed to be impossible to enumerate in bounded time, while it's trivial to enumerate over all IPv4 addresses on the internet.

      It's amazing as to what length people will go to, to avoid learning and/or using a computer properly.


      Also, it's not really possible to practice playful cleverness well with a touchscreen.
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      > That would break compatibility with everything entirely and would require making modifications to every single IPv4 device.

      As does IPv6. The auto-gateway proposal is a botch, but would work without breaking existing systems.

      > Every single "solution" to the IPv4 address exhaustion problem I've read either would lead to things being more broken than before, or would be way more complicated and burdensome to implement than just leaving IPv6 enabled.

      The point is to solve a problem (address exhaustion) without requiring a complete overhaul of everything (IPv6).

      > Why would anyone be wasting their time implementing brokenness when IPv6 is the solution?

      Is the solution some sort of drop in network engineers' salaries?

      IPv6 sucks.
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      @p >As does IPv6.
      IPv6 just requires software changes really and the software changes have already been made or are possible - the main blocker is proprietary software as always.

      >The auto-gateway proposal is a botch, but would work without breaking existing systems.
      Previously, gateway protocols were implemented, but it was soon determined that it native IPv6 was a much better choice.

      >The point is to solve a problem (address exhaustion) without requiring a complete overhaul of everything (IPv6).
      The designers of IPv6 realized that address exhaustion was impossible to solve without a complete overhaul, so they did so.

      IPv4 address exhaustion has been dragged out far too long already via nasty hacks like CIDR routing, NAT and CGNAT - anything more would lead to unusable brokenness, so it's time for IPv6.

      >Is the solution some sort of drop in network engineers' salaries?
      A network engineers salary should be dropped if they refuse to understand an improved version of a protocol that works as it was originally intended to.

      >IPv6 sucks.
      IPv6 is great in my experience.

      I plug the computer in and it autoconfigures and just works via SLAAC, meanwhile, IPv4 takes ages to come up thanks to DHCP brokenness.

      Most complaints about IPv6 seem to be skill issues where people can't figure out how to use the computer in front of them to copy and paste the address or DNS.
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      What's wrong with how it already tastes?
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      @Humpleupagus @pomstan @sjw @admin @Cocoa @parker @graf @verita84 @Moon That reminds me of one of those Japanese, like, personality test questions (they must have a word for it because there are about a million of them but I don't know what they are called): would you rather eat curry that tastes like shit, or shit that tastes like curry?
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      @Humpleupagus @sjw @admin @p @Cocoa @parker @graf @verita84 @Moon i did type 7 half an hour ago

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      @p @sjw @admin @Humpleupagus @Cocoa @parker @graf @verita84 @Moon @pomstan curry that taste like shit
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      ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Thursday, 31-Aug-2023 04:24:12 JST ?? Humpleupagus ?? ?? Humpleupagus ??
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      That wasn't curry, my friend.
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      @p @sjw @admin @Humpleupagus @Cocoa @graf @verita84 @Moon @pomstan
      I like Japanese and Korean curries, but they're not the standard definition.
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      @parker @Cocoa @Humpleupagus @Moon @admin @graf @pomstan @sjw @verita84 Japanese curry is different from Indian curry. 0% of humanity dislikes it, it's like hating biscuits and gravy, it's impossible.
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      @p @sjw @admin @Humpleupagus @Cocoa @graf @verita84 @Moon @pomstan Those two options are exactly the same though.
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      Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 01-Sep-2023 00:38:56 JST Sexy Moon Sexy Moon
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      @p @sjw @admin @Humpleupagus @Cocoa @parker @graf @verita84 @pomstan goat curry is the best
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      @parker @Cocoa @Humpleupagus @Moon @admin @graf @pomstan @sjw @verita84 Ever since they fed me a goat, I have done my best to completely ignore Indian-style curry.
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      Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 01-Sep-2023 00:42:46 JST Sexy Moon Sexy Moon
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      @p @sjw @admin @Humpleupagus @Cocoa @parker @graf @verita84 @pomstan to be fair I will eat anything
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      Goat is underrated. The "gamey" taste associated with it is a product of age and feed. Muslim customers will often buy older goats since they like it. But conventionally, you butcher within a year and also consistently feed something like barley, which considerably improves the flavor. I've had goat ice cream, and it tastes great.
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      > IPv6 just requires software changes really and the software changes have already been made or are possible - the main blocker is proprietary software as always.

      Then one wonders why it has been completely unsuccessful at dislodging IPv4 for...three decades.

      Of course, "Just a software change!" presumes changeable software, it presumes that changing is zero-cost, and it ignores infrastructure and coordination.

      > Previously, gateway protocols were implemented, but it was soon determined that it native IPv6 was a much better choice.

      I don't know what you think I meant.

      > The designers of IPv6 realized that address exhaustion was impossible to solve without a complete overhaul,

      No, they always wanted a complete overhaul before the address exhaustion was a factor. The Second System was always going to fix *all* of the problems of the first one. It's the real silver bullet this time, guys. In fact, you can see in RFC 1627 that they argue *against* private subnets partially because delaying address exhaustion will delay the adoption of the new network protocol that will Fix Everything. Address exhaustion is the boogeyman used to scare people into adopting all of the other shit, and it has been since at least 1994.

      > so it's time for IPv6.

      Feel free to use IPv6 all you like. I don't need to, so I won't.

      > an improved version of a protocol that works as it was originally intended to.

      That remains to be seen. If it's adopted at the scale of IPv4, we'll know if it works better.

      > I plug the computer in and it autoconfigures and just works via SLAAC, meanwhile, IPv4 takes ages to come up thanks to DHCP brokenness.

      SKill issue. DHCP seems to work fine on this network. Worst-case is wifi, takes a couple of seconds. Meanwhile, unless I pass "-4" to curl/wget, I get to sit and watch them time out. It turns out to be much easier to just skip IPv6 in the kernel so that IPv6 isn't even attempted and I don't have to pass stupid options. (Maybe I could extend this to every host in the network by patching my local resolver to always return NODATA for AAAA reqs.)

      > Most complaints about IPv6 seem to be skill issues where people can't figure out how to use the computer in front of them to copy and paste the address or DNS.

      "It's a shitty notation" is not answered by "Well, just copy and paste." If you want to see actual complaints, scroll up. Instead of insisting that all I care about is the notation (which is shitty), let's do this. I have not heard any IPv6 advocates even attempt to address any of my actual objections or concerns, they just sidestep them and then complain that I MUST HATE PROGRESS. Please feel free to address these:

      * It *is* a shitty notation.
      * 64 bits would have been fine.
      * IPv4 will never go away. We are still emulating the Teletype Model 33-ASR and people are still linking against to speak VT-100 escape codes: that's way easier to drop than a network protocol.
      * IPv6 gives me nothing I want. No carrot, and the stick has still not materialized.
      * I will care about IPv6 when I have to. I do not have to, and will not have to for years to come.
      * It is not desirable that every system be globally routeable, which is one of the explicit goals of IPv6.

      Incidentally, if you do scroll up, you will see my remark that, now that IPv6 has been mentioned, it will end up consuming the thread in exactly the same way that a negative remark about systemd or Rust does it.
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      @p >Then one wonders why it has been completely unsuccessful at dislodging IPv4 for...three decades.
      For 20 years IPv6 wasn't supported in big routers due to software patents - as companies clearly didn't want to be faced with paying millions in patent licensing.

      Now all patents of the base IPv6 spec have expired, big routers now support IPv6.

      After that, the problem seems to be "everyone keeps using IPv4 despite its brokenness, so we'll keep using IPv4".

      >Of course, "Just a software change!" presumes changeable software, it presumes that changing is zero-cost, and it ignores infrastructure and coordination.
      Changing it has already been done and support is there in infrastructure, the problem is few are willing to coordinate on anything at all.

      >No, they always wanted a complete overhaul before the address exhaustion was a factor.
      They accurately predicted address exhaustion well in advance, so they decided to start on the fix right away, to ease the transition, rather than it being excessively abrupt.

      >The Second System was always going to fix *all* of the problems of the first one. It's the real silver bullet this time, guys.
      IPv6 doesn't fix all networking problems, but it does fix all the problems that IPv4 has.

      >see in RFC 1627 that they argue *against* private subnets partially because delaying address exhaustion will delay the adoption of the new network protocol that will Fix Everything.
      It's entirely valid to argue against the brokenness of private subnets noting that it will delay the adoption of the network protocol that fixes the address exhaustion problem once and for all.

      >If it's adopted at the scale of IPv4, we'll know if it works better.
      IPv6 has been adopted at scale in the backend of all modern tracking device networks (as newer mobile protocols require IPv6) and it works just fine - even better than IPv4 as such spying companies found out (of course those companies proceeded to setup only IPv4 gateways for internet access and then route the IPv4 packets over IPv6 to reach the internet gateway).

      Google for their botnet activities have noted IPv6 works just fine at huge scale with the right happy eyes configuration.

      >DHCP seems to work fine on this network.
      Yes, DHCP seems to work fine until it doesn't and then good luck troubleshooting.

      >Meanwhile, unless I pass "-4" to curl/wget, I get to sit and watch them time out.
      Your ISP's uplink to the internet is very broken - I would suggest you either complain to your ISP and demand that they fix your internet connection or you go to someone else (here's hoping that there isn't a monopoly that stops you from doing that), or seeing if you can fix your routers configuration.

      The same thing would happen if your ISP only supported IPv6, but left a broken IPv4 route - your problem really has nothing to do with IPv6.

      >"It's a shitty notation" is not answered by "Well, just copy and paste."
      Your complaint seems to be based on how typing out 128 bits of information is inconvenient, so using a computer to send that exact information where it needs to go without error-prone manual entering it is the answer.

      The notation scheme is fine in my experience and the abbreviation standard is okay, but of course no notation is ever perfect - do let me know if you have a better encoding scheme.

      >* 64 bits would have been fine.
      No it wasn't - if a 64 bit addressing scheme was used, address exhaustion would eventually happen again.

      A 64 bit addressing scheme is just an incompatible with a 32 bit addressing scheme as a 128 bit addressing scheme is.

      If I read correct information, IPv4 was drafted to use 128 bit addresses originally, but 32 bits were decided on as that was easier to implement on the current hardware, plus it was just for a testnet.

      >* IPv4 will never go away. We are still emulating the Teletype Model 33-ASR and people are still linking against to speak VT-100 escape codes: that's way easier to drop than a network protocol.
      The Teletype Model 33-ASR has indeed been dropped - the escape codes are now being emulated in software.

      Internet backbone routers that only support IPv4 have been dropped as well - they now route IPv6 just as well.

      Some ISP's are even offering IPv6-only by default and normies that only visit normie sites like facebook or google don't even notice.

      >* IPv6 gives me nothing I want. No carrot, and the stick has still not materialized.
      You don't want nice things, so IPv6 clearly doesn't give what you want.

      The carrot is end to end connectivity and the stick is how the consequences of IPv4 address exhaustion will progressively get worse no matter how many levels of CGNAT are thrown at it.

      >* I will care about IPv6 when I have to. I do not have to, and will not have to for years to come.
      The idea is really you don't have to care about IPv6 - it's just implemented and it just works, but some ISPs seem to have made the intentional decision to prevent that from happening.

      >* It is not desirable that every system be globally routeable, which is one of the explicit goals of IPv6.
      Either something is connected to the internet, or it's not.

      IPv4 is globally routable, no matter how many layers of NAT - as otherwise you wouldn't be able to send and receive packets from the global internet - it's doubethink to think that an internet connected IPv4 network isn't connected to the internet because of NAT.

      The explicit goal of IPv6 is to make it so that if a network is part of the internet, you can send packets to all other computers on the internet without having to resort to nasty workarounds like NAT holepunching (accepting the packets is left up to the receiving computers, which is what should happen).

      If you don't want your system to be globally routable, you need to not connect it to the internet.
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