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Free Software Foundation (fsf@hostux.social)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Aug-2023 04:27:39 JST 
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HailHodor (hailhodor@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Aug-2023 04:58:16 JST 
HailHodor
@fsf I use #freesoftware to protect my #privacy because control over my privacy is control over my life. I'm vehemently opposed to an economy that monetizes my existence without my consent or my participation. That, to me, is the essence of @pluralistic's #enshittification.
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Upper2473 (upper2473@mas.to)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Aug-2023 23:13:59 JST 
Upper2473
@fsf I use #freesoftware to protect my #privacy because privacy is a fundamental right that should be respected and valued. Free software isn’t a guarantee of privacy, but done right it can offer you the highest level of privacy and transparency regarding the use of your data. I hope that opting for privacy respecting services could be considered the norm and not something people do only if they have something suspicious to hide.
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翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Aug-2023 23:26:53 JST 
翠星石
@fsf I use free software to protect my privacy as I know that privacy is impossible under proprietary software, as you're not allowed to know what the software is doing.
I therefore make the assumption that such software is malware and spyware unless there's evidence otherwise - but so far all evidence I've come across has been evidence of malware and spyware features in a number of proprietary programs and nothing the other way. -
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Pleroma-tan (kirby@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Aug-2023 23:28:52 JST 
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@fsf I uh don't
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Aug-2023 23:29:37 JST 
Fediverse Contractor
How do you know your troonix apps don’t spy on you? Did you read the code? -
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meso (meso@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Aug-2023 23:29:39 JST 
meso
@Suiseiseki @fsf king -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Aug-2023 23:31:54 JST
Fediverse Contractor
Most ppl literally can’t tho. I prefer how apple does it by letting me control what apps can see, like which folders, my contacts, etc. -
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kroner (kroner@seal.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Aug-2023 23:31:55 JST 
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At least you can read FOSS code -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Aug-2023 23:40:21 JST
Fediverse Contractor
Cope. I could make an app to test it and be reasonably sure it does what apple says it does. Why would they even lie about that? That’s certainly better than reading like a billion lines of code and pretending you know what it does. -
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meso (meso@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Aug-2023 23:40:22 JST
meso
@bot @Suiseiseki @fsf @kroner you cannot verify that it lets you actually control that, in any way. it's impossible, whereas with open source it is perfectly possible -
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Microchimera (opphunter88@gleasonator.com)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Aug-2023 23:40:28 JST 
Microchimera
@kroner @bot @Suiseiseki @fsf @meso Do you really read it every time though? Be honest.
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kroner (kroner@seal.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Aug-2023 23:40:28 JST
kroner
Some people might, not me though. I just think it's nice that FOSS exists 🐱 Fediverse Contractor likes this. -
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kroner (kroner@seal.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Aug-2023 23:40:30 JST
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Well I am not most people :marseysneed: -
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翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Aug-2023 23:41:02 JST
翠星石
@bot >Most ppl literally can’t tho.
Well there it is.
Merely because most people think they can't read source code means no-one will ever be able to? Huh.
Really, if you want to learn how to read source code, you just start reading it and search up the language syntax details and library functions as you go along and you'll soon learn how to understand what most code in most languages does - but with proprietary software, there's never the option to start reading anything unless you agree to betray humanity by signing a NDA (and some proprietary masters won't even let you see even if you offer to betray humanity yourself).
>I prefer how apple does it by letting me control what apps can see, like which folders, my contacts, etc.
Merely because your master lets you segment what information certain proprietary malware can see means that your information is secure? Huh.
Apple's OS's can been confirmed multiple times to spy on the user, plus there's a universal backdoor that Apple can use at any time to extract any information they want - if they didn't already send it all off to Apple already that is.
It doesn't matter if the free software can see all my contacts and read all my files - the software serves me and not another master, thus only ever accesses the files I want it to access on request. -
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翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Aug-2023 23:42:40 JST
翠星石
@kroner I personally would prefer that the "FOSS" term didn't exist, as that's trying to be neutral between proprietary degeneracy and freedom and most people assume it means; gratis, source-available software as well. -
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kroner (kroner@seal.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Aug-2023 23:42:49 JST
kroner
>why would a mega corporation lie?
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Aug-2023 23:46:00 JST
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So you believe this is a conspiracy where apple is leading the public to believe they can control these things when they actually can’t? Sorry, I just can’t take that seriously. -
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Eric Zhang (ericzhang456@pl.starnix.network)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Aug-2023 23:48:09 JST 
Eric Zhang
@bot @Suiseiseki @fsf @kroner @meso This is so hilarious -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Aug-2023 23:48:09 JST
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How is it hilarious? -
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Eric Zhang (ericzhang456@pl.starnix.network)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Aug-2023 23:48:11 JST
Eric Zhang
@bot @Suiseiseki @fsf @kroner @meso You absolutely made my day -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Aug-2023 23:53:20 JST
Fediverse Contractor
Well, you better blow this case wide open then, it should be easy enough to prove right? Imagine being able to dunk on Apple with this breakthrough knawledge!
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meso (meso@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Aug-2023 23:53:21 JST
meso
@bot @Suiseiseki @fsf @kroner Yes -
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maksim :clisp: (maksim@pl.wherelinux.xyz)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Aug-2023 23:55:55 JST 
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@fsf I use #freesoftware to protect my #privacy because privacy is a fundamental human right that is kinda violated by most modern software. Some people may be fine with that, however I am not. Furthermore free software provides the ability to do anything you want with your software and it will be truly yours! Unlike with ""subscriptions"" nowadays.
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 00:00:35 JST
Fediverse Contractor
So Apple knows what I’m looking at when I’m browsing their stores? I already figured that was the case tbh. -
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blaaablaaaa (blaaablaaaa@hermit.cafe)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 00:00:37 JST 
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https://web.archive.org/web/20230101185726/https://gizmodo.com/apple-iphone-analytics-tracking-even-when-off-app-store-1849757558 翠星石 likes this. -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 00:01:55 JST
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No they don’t. -
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meso (meso@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 00:01:56 JST
meso
@bot @Suiseiseki @blaaablaaaa @fsf @kroner they know everything you do -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 00:04:35 JST
Fediverse Contractor
Proof of this “universal back door”? -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 00:07:39 JST
Fediverse Contractor
You’re just being vague and dumb tbh. Since everyone is apparently reading all of the troonix code, why hasn’t anyone fixed the billion bugs ppl complain about here on a daily basis? -
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meso (meso@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 00:07:40 JST
meso
@bot @Suiseiseki @fsf @kroner it has been long known. and there's a lot of things that are very difficult to prove or disprove because the code is proprietary -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 00:15:00 JST
Fediverse Contractor
Sorry, you guys are going to have to take the L on this. -
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meso (meso@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 00:15:01 JST
meso
@bot @Suiseiseki @fsf @kroner cuz the devs are people (retarded) -
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翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 00:16:07 JST
翠星石
@bot The system update feature.
Apple can push an OS update to any of their internet connected computers at any time, with the functionality of their choosing (per user custom "updates" are trivial to do as well) - as they hold the signing keys, which is all that's required for an "update" to be installed.
The user isn't ever informed as to what's in an OS update, cannot check what's really them and also can't deny an update - updates can only be deferred temporarily.
The user can't even downgrade to older OS versions after a set time period, as apple revokes the signing keys for such older versions at a certain schedule, after which makes installing such older versions impossible.
Even assuming that Apple's OS's don't currently spy of the user, Apple can at any time send an update to add spying functionality, so the only logical to assume that there's spying functionalities and worse unless you have evidence that there isn't. -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 00:18:11 JST
Fediverse Contractor
That’s not true, you can turn off auto updating. How often do you read all of the code for each update installed on your computer? -
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翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 00:18:59 JST
翠星石
@bot The Linux developers spend most of the time accepting commits that fix bugs in the kernel, Linux - you just need to look at the Linux mailing list to see them.
I find that the amount of bugs in software I get even if my ultra custom GNU/Linux install with everything compiled from source is very low, unlike every single proprietary OS I've had the misfortune to use. -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 00:27:49 JST
Fediverse Contractor
You’re not making good points so yeah, I do say so. -
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meso (meso@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 00:27:50 JST
meso
@bot @Suiseiseki @fsf @kroner if you say so -
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翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 00:28:54 JST
翠星石
@bot I was mistaken, I was thinking of windows, which doesn't allow you to disable updates and only allows you to defer them for 7 days.
Although you can uncheck the box to not auto-update anymore, there's no doubt in my mind that in certain situations that setting is going to "reset" and "updates" are going to be installed.
The free software community as a whole regularly checks the source code - there are some people who love nothing better than checking every single git commit via git log even.
There have been a few instances where malicious 3rd parties have tried to add a backdoor by gaining access to a git server and adding surreptitious commits that add a "bug", except the community found out every time and ensured that there was hell to pay.
While I'm compiling updates, I can easily look through the source unpacked to /var/tmp/portage.
How often have you ever read a single line of a macOS update? -
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Kirino Kousaka (kirino@seal.cafe)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 00:32:47 JST 
Kirino Kousaka
I don’t know how to read and interpret code, so no one else does.
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 00:32:47 JST
Fediverse Contractor
Again, if everyone is reading all of this code, I’d love to know why nobody is fixing all of the problems. -
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翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 00:38:37 JST
翠星石
@bot The option to disable updates seems to really make you think you have a choice, rather than actually giving you a choice as far as I can tell.
After all, they force macOS malware developers to drop support for later versions at set time periods, as newer versions of xcode (unless the name is different now) seems to refuse to compile software on certain older OS versions and developers are effectively forced into "upgrading" xcode and OS versions at set periods, as if they don't, their malware can't be compiled for the latest OS versions.
As a result, if a user wants to install 3rd party software updates, eventually an OS update is required first. -
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翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 00:43:52 JST
翠星石
@bot Plenty of developers are fixing bugs when they see them - if you don't believe me, `git clone` the source of any free software of your choice and run `git log`.
There's a lot of complaints from incompetent users soling GNU/Linux with proprietary malware, who wonder why it's mildly difficult to surrender their freedom on an OS that was intended to give them freedom.
There's also an huge amount of proprietary sabotage carried out to attack GNU/Linux to make certain tasks difficult or impossible to do, but that's the fault of the company that did the sabotaging and not GNU/Linux.
Software nobody complains about is software that nobody uses. -
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翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 00:46:33 JST
翠星石
@bot You still haven't answered as to: "How often have you ever read a single line of a macOS update?"
You can't, so you haven't.
The mental gymnastics to justify why it doesn't matter that updates for proprietary malware can't be checked is incredible. -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 00:51:46 JST
Fediverse Contractor
Whether I can or not is irrelevant, most ppl can’t, and practically zero that can will, so if that’s what your system depends on, then it’s fundamentally flawed. -
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翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 01:06:42 JST
翠星石
@bot Now that's next level mental gymnastics.
There's millions of free software developers that do read the source code and evidence for that can easily be seen by `git clone`ing a bunch of free software and running `git log` to see evidence as to how many developers read the code (as you clearly can't make a change to code without reading it first).
It's very relevant that it's impossible for you to read the proprietary software source code, while free software source code can be read by anyone and that happens a lot - despite your unfounded claims that zero people can read source code.
The security of the system against backdooring etc doesn't even depend sorely on the source code being read - it depends on digital signatures on git commits and package released being checked in an automated fashion.
Developers are usually trustworthy, as they can't easily hide anything backhanded and a single malicious action will be found out, instantly or in the future and when that happens, the developers hard earned trust will evaporate and the commits for developers that are known to be untrustworthy are scrutinized a lot harder than usually.
One example of this working as intended is the SELinux module in Linux written by the NSA.
The NSA typically likes releasing proprietary malware only, but it this case, they ended up releasing free software, as they knew that many people were going to have a long hard look at every single line and so any proprietary tricks were going to be caught. -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 06:55:06 JST
Fediverse Contractor
This isn’t theoretical physics, it’s making a basic computer work and not be a pos that constantly breaks. -
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Kirino Kousaka (kirino@seal.cafe)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 06:55:07 JST
Kirino Kousaka
“If people are working on physics why are there still unanswered questions.”
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Kirino Kousaka (kirino@seal.cafe)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 06:59:02 JST
Kirino Kousaka
Except programming and computers breaking very rarely are connected. Bad experience in the past me thinks?
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 06:59:02 JST
Fediverse Contractor
What? I’m talking about troonix not working properly, which is a common complaint. -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 07:08:42 JST
Fediverse Contractor
I saw someone talking about how they couldn’t change their volume just recently lol. -
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Kirino Kousaka (kirino@seal.cafe)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 07:08:44 JST
Kirino Kousaka
“my computer is broken” != “my software isn’t working”
Then again, if you fail to grasp that much then it’s really unlikely you would grasp the challenges that come with low-level programming / bare-metal programming.
There is no developer on Earth, no matter how autistic, who can account for the 1,000,000 ways their software will be used/misused/abused, most super edge-case things you will actually only see “in the wild”. Spooky shit, mang
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Goalkeeper (goalkeeper@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 07:14:29 JST 
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Sounds like a driver issue, not a linux issue. -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 07:14:29 JST
Fediverse Contractor
It was just an example, one of many.
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