I feel like my Mastodon feed must be quite unpleasant to read lately as all I've been doing is ranting about being annoyed at computers. In my defense tho computers are very annoying
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mcc (mcc@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 31-Jul-2023 08:21:27 JST mcc - clacke likes this.
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Jacqueline Merritt (jacquelinemerritt@mas.to)'s status on Monday, 31-Jul-2023 08:21:31 JST Jacqueline Merritt @mcc half of why I follow you is because I enjoy your rants about computers (when I can understand them at least)
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clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Monday, 31-Jul-2023 16:36:52 JST clacke @mcc @vonneudeck @Nifflas There are people who hate rants against computers? -
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mcc (mcc@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 31-Jul-2023 16:36:53 JST mcc @vonneudeck @Nifflas I'm as confused as you
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Nicolai von Neudeck 🤒🤕 (vonneudeck@hachyderm.io)'s status on Monday, 31-Jul-2023 16:36:54 JST Nicolai von Neudeck 🤒🤕 -
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Nifflas (nifflas@mastodon.gamedev.place)'s status on Monday, 31-Jul-2023 16:36:55 JST Nifflas @mcc Oh actually, I'm always happy when someone dislikes git. Makes me feel way less alone hating it in a world where people generally thinks it's the one to use in every scenario, despite that it's terrible at everything.
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clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Monday, 31-Jul-2023 16:36:56 JST clacke Oh, it was about git.
There are people who don't hate git?
I love git, but that doesn't mean I don't hate it. Not hating git is just being ignorant of how good things could be.
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slembcke (slembcke@mastodon.gamedev.place)'s status on Monday, 31-Jul-2023 16:36:58 JST slembcke @AngryAnt @Nifflas @mcc Haha. Same. Git often makes me grumpy, but every alternative I've tried always makes me more grumpy. >_< I used to think that Subversion was the bee's niece, but it feels so unproductive to me now. :-\
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Emil "AngryAnt" Johansen (angryant@mastodon.gamedev.place)'s status on Monday, 31-Jul-2023 16:36:59 JST Emil "AngryAnt" Johansen @Nifflas @mcc Using git all over the place for a decade and a half, in all sorts of projects & functions, with decent skill at juggling more advanced flows, I still don’t grok how someone can actually _like_ it.
I appreciate systemic aspects just like I might appreciate a database design. Still doesn’t mean I’d be doing data entry by query writing and liking it.
TLDR; Implementation is great, level of abstraction is ridiculous, people presumably have Stockholm syndrome?
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Nifflas (nifflas@mastodon.gamedev.place)'s status on Monday, 31-Jul-2023 16:37:00 JST Nifflas @AngryAnt I'm just not smart enough to use it. I've actually used it a lot, but everything always goes wrong.
Like, writing a sampler and phase modulation synth in C++? Figured it out pretty quickly. git tho? I mean, I know the core concepts in it, but somehow I still mess up everything I do.
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clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Monday, 31-Jul-2023 16:37:01 JST clacke @Nifflas The trick to using git well is not to be smart, the trick is you start and never stop using it daily starting from 2005 and you internalize the quirks as they are added.
Plan B if it is no longer 2005 and not possible to do the above is to have a friend or colleague who did this.
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slembcke (slembcke@mastodon.gamedev.place)'s status on Monday, 31-Jul-2023 16:37:03 JST slembcke @AngryAnt @MouseByTheSea @Nifflas @mcc Worse... My first "real job" used a VSS knockoff called SourceGear Vault. Not only was it painful, and had zero merge functionality (we maintained 6 active branches O_o), but it consistently blue screened Vista if you locked the screen while it was open!
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Emil "AngryAnt" Johansen (angryant@mastodon.gamedev.place)'s status on Monday, 31-Jul-2023 16:37:04 JST Emil "AngryAnt" Johansen @MouseByTheSea @slembcke @Nifflas @mcc I... I think you have to put that kind of language behind a content warning?
Brr...
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Martin Kift (mousebythesea@mastodon.gamedev.place)'s status on Monday, 31-Jul-2023 16:37:05 JST Martin Kift @AngryAnt @slembcke @Nifflas @mcc could be worse, we could all be using SourceSafe :)
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Emil "AngryAnt" Johansen (angryant@mastodon.gamedev.place)'s status on Monday, 31-Jul-2023 16:37:06 JST Emil "AngryAnt" Johansen @MouseByTheSea @slembcke @Nifflas @mcc I never saw eye to eye with Perforce. I feel like it and I are from two different worlds and installing it feels like inviting in an adversary to fight for control of my files ;)
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Martin Kift (mousebythesea@mastodon.gamedev.place)'s status on Monday, 31-Jul-2023 16:37:07 JST Martin Kift @slembcke @AngryAnt @Nifflas @mcc git is the source control system that makes perforce look very good.
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Evan 🫠 was at XOXO Fest 🦈❤️🚀 (evn@gamedev.lgbt)'s status on Monday, 31-Jul-2023 16:37:09 JST Evan 🫠 was at XOXO Fest 🦈❤️🚀 @mcc @Nifflas oh shoot i forgot about this but when Unity bought(?) it I think they changed it to be a Unity only thing? Now it’s part of the ‘Unity Dev Ops’ service.. something tells me they don’t have non-Unity use cases in mind
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mcc (mcc@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 31-Jul-2023 16:37:10 JST mcc @Nifflas @evn plastic sounds great but I only recently realized it was Unity. Do you know if it works well without Unity?
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Nifflas (nifflas@mastodon.gamedev.place)'s status on Monday, 31-Jul-2023 16:37:11 JST Nifflas @evn @mcc Haha! I'm on Plastic SCM now. I love it, since I could pick it up right away and it all made sense from the very start. Handles large files and empty folders.
Drawback is it's not open source and that it's hosted by Unity, but it's cheap. And it's not like an engagement, I can always jump ship instantly to another if it goes bad :)
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Evan 🫠 was at XOXO Fest 🦈❤️🚀 (evn@gamedev.lgbt)'s status on Monday, 31-Jul-2023 16:37:12 JST Evan 🫠 was at XOXO Fest 🦈❤️🚀 @Nifflas @mcc I’m intrigued by this and want to remember to look into git alternatives later but there is no bookmark function so here I am replying to you :)