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>kernel level anticheat that starts with your system and you can't disable
>doesn't close when the game stops running
>people are okay with this for a glorified roblox custom game but will still give genshin shit for using an anticheat that stops when you close the game (and doesn't even work lol)
>based
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RT: https://varishangout.net/objects/0f660b10-0ba4-41fd-977b-40c4bb3876f8
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@bleedingphoenix @theorytoe @Xeraser
>but why would i want it to be possible on linux?
the more application linux support the more likely it is for more people to switch to it and maybe start to care too and no being a extremist has never made the average joe change sides.
if no one cares about freedom and privacy you, the individual will suffer too. you can stick your head in the sand and go "i don't care i don't use it" until you have no other choice and wonder why you are alone (see firmware, TPM and secure boot).
i care because i care about the future and if that means making short term compromised to maybe have a little bigger chance in the long term then so be it.
>if i'm on linux i'm probably there to avoid that garbage.
you are still free to avoid them, nothing changes
>because they can't run anticheats?
no because anti cheat is less invasive than on windows. it has gotten better because of steam deck but still about 45% of them don't enable linux compatibility.
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@DarkMahesvara >the more application GNU support the more likely it is for more people to switch to it and maybe start to care too
If all you wish do with a computer is to run proprietary malware games, I recommend you stop using computers and do something useful instead, instead of trying to defile GNU with proprietary filth.
Nevertheless, people will keep trying to combine freedom and proprietary slavery and keep wondering why they always end up with worse proprietary slavery in the end.
>being a extremist has never made the average joe change sides.
The "average joe" cannot be saved from themselves, so I focus on those who are not average.
>no one cares about freedom and privacy
That's exactly You got it - that's why I must seize it myself.
>until you have no other choice and wonder why you are alone (see firmware, TPM and secure boot).
Firmware, you mean that free peripheral software I load onto my Wi-Fi card?
TPM? I don't have one of those?
Secure boot? I don't have restricted boot, although I have the option of gpg signing with grub.
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@DarkMahesvara @theorytoe @Xeraser but why would i want it to be possible on linux? if i'm on linux i'm probably there to avoid that garbage.
>that's the reason devs still deny supporting linux
because they can't run anticheats? is it not because linux users are still a minority and having to work on a port is a pain deemed unnecessary? Garry's Mod doesn't have anticheat yet the creator hates Linux and only begrudgingly made a version for the platform, and you're still better off running the Windows version with Proton rather than using the native version.
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@bleedingphoenix @theorytoe @Xeraser nobody ever argued they not a pain. its about making it possible *if you want* also again linux anti cheat implementation is less invasive than on windows (thats the reason devs still deny supporting linux). so its still an improvement over what we had.
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@Xeraser @theorytoe
> my free open source kernel level anticheat
if it was open source there indeed could be something like a "linux kernel level anti cheat" :mio_wink:
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@DarkMahesvara @theorytoe @Xeraser why would you even want an anti-cheat? they're nothing but pain. throwing some labels on it doesn't change that.
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@theorytoe @Xeraser
>if youre only goal on linux is to game >dont use linux
>use windows lol
"don't run the free operating system, use the proprietary one"
at least try to pretend you care about freedom on you high horse
>youre still going to have a shitty unremovable rootkit regardless
without root? interesting better make a CVE for that one chief
>you might as well go through the cbt of setting up a vfio win vm if you really want to ""game"" on ""linux""
yes VM or better separate hardware is obviously the only real way to fully isolate it
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@DarkMahesvara @theorytoe >"don't run the free operating system, use the proprietary one"
>at least try to pretend you care about freedom on you high horse
ah yes i love my free open source kernel level anticheat
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@Xeraser @DarkMahesvara
if youre only goal on linux is to game dont use linux
use windows lol
youre still going to have a shitty unremovable rootkit regardless
you might as well go through the cbt of setting up a vfio win vm if you really want to ""game"" on ""linux""
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@theorytoe @Xeraser "if i keep insulting people i don't actually need to counter peoples arguments"
consider joining twitter.com
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@DarkMahesvara @theorytoe >"2. if somebody wants to run this game they don't have to use windows which is worse than any anti cheat could ever be"
>"3. anti cheat working means more people are likely to switch to linux and care about this shit"
>muh objective and factual windows hateboner and cope
>muh point about other anticheats that has nothing to do with this one
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@DarkMahesvara @Xeraser
>anti cheat on linux has less privileges than on windows
holy fuck do you even understand computers
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@Xeraser
1. anti cheat on linux has less privileges than on windows
2. if somebody wants to run this game they don't have to use windows which is worse than any anti cheat could ever be
3. anti cheat working means more people are likely to switch to linux and care about this shit
>kernel level anticheat that starts with your system and you can't disable
there are no kernel level anti cheat on linux. they run in user space
>doesn't close when the game stops running
this depends on the AC. EAC and battle eye only run while the game does
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@DarkMahesvara @Xeraser @bleedingphoenix
>the more application linux support the more likely it is for more people to switch to it and maybe start to care too
ah yes because getting more people on linux will only make it better!!!
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it's more the meme about installing libreboot on your thinkpad and using trisquel/similar only to just use it to browse Facebook and run Discord.
That is 100% what will happen.
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@theorytoe @Xeraser Chromebooks are a version of Gentoo/Linux, except designed to only be able to run a proprietary browser, so therefore are without freedom, I'll need to look into it to determine if it's Gentoo GNU/Linux, or Gentoo BusyBox/Linux or something else.
Surprisingly, Chromebooks use coreboot and run a free software EC, but of course google couldn't help but to carefully slip proprietary software into parts to make it infeasible to use most models in freedom.
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@Xeraser @PurpCat @DarkMahesvara @bleedingphoenix
but that unironically
ive seen more people use chromebooks because it does everything they need without friction
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@Xeraser @PurpCat @DarkMahesvara @bleedingphoenix
ie shit that works 1st run.
linux, despite all the effort that has gone into trying to do that, cannot do that
and its best it stays that way for its own health
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@theorytoe @PurpCat @DarkMahesvara @bleedingphoenix Yeah it was sarcasm (despite being some lincuck thing it kinda works)
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@PurpCat @theorytoe @DarkMahesvara @bleedingphoenix >normies only need a chromebook
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@PurpCat @Xeraser @DarkMahesvara @bleedingphoenix
people really only care about making ends meet
thus why they will literally use anything, even if its shit
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the thing is Linux is usable for 80% of normies because normies literally only use computers for spreadsheets, trying to talk to girls online, and watching movies/porn.
a web browser does all that now
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@Suzu >Linux usage spiked last year, mostly because of Chromebooks and the Steam Deck.
More correctly, GNU, systemd and BusyBox usage spiked in normies that browse normie sites, as the people that spy on useragents from those sites are seeing a larger percentage of used's with useragents that incorrectly say "Linux".
It is simply unknown specifically as to how many users GNU/Linux{-libre} has and if usage has spiked or not, merely because most version of GNU/Linux don't spy on the users.
>Most people really only need a browser to do everything they want to in a computer
Yes and that's a damn shame, as current web browsers are one of the very bad things that is ruining computing.
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@Xeraser @theorytoe @PurpCat @DarkMahesvara @bleedingphoenix unironically. As I was mentioning the other day, Linux usage spiked last year, mostly because of Chromebooks and the Steam Deck.
Most people really only need a browser to do everything they want to in a computer, and they were more willing to learn something new and accept the sofwtare incompatibilities when it had the Google name attached to it. Probably because they were used to Android being different from Windows.
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