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   Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Thursday, 13-Jul-2023 20:05:54 JST Sexy Moon
   Lain is right, also fedi is a bubble, albeit a decently big one. like lol, "twitter is dying" it has over 100x as many ACTIVE users than fedi has SIGN-UPS. "the site broke for a while because elon is stupid" no one cares lol, fedi servers implode every week from incompetent administrators and people just come back when the admin reinstalls on a new subdomain
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     narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Thursday, 13-Jul-2023 20:07:28 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:

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     @Moon twitter is also a bubble, just an enormous one. Who cares if service has six gorillion users if you only ever talk to 10-20 of them?
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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Thursday, 13-Jul-2023 20:10:20 JST Sexy Moon

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     "we have moved from pleroma to akkoma to misskey to foundkey to calckey please bear with us" calc.miss^H^H^H^H.ak^H^H.pl^H^H
     .farthuffers.gay admins
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     narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Thursday, 13-Jul-2023 20:12:25 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:

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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Thursday, 13-Jul-2023 20:12:26 JST Sexy Moon

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     @hj flypaper
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     ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Thursday, 13-Jul-2023 20:12:34 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??

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     The ability to go down and pop back up is actually a point of strength, not weakness. Twitter can be attacked from all sorts of angles, economic or political. The fediverse is like swatting flies. There will be a lot of misses, and the flies just show back up across the room.
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     narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Thursday, 13-Jul-2023 20:13:52 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:

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     @Moon
     "no i'm not moving to akkoma nor *key nor *don"
     "hey i made a semi-public instance for all'y'all because my personal instance is too spicy and has shitty domain, no i'm not moving to it to not draw fire to it, no i'm not deprecating either. yes i'm financing both out of my pocket because i'm autistic, yes i will do it until i die"
     
     "competent" admins (me)
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     narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Thursday, 13-Jul-2023 20:17:16 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:

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     @Moon @Humpleupagus this isn't a competition you know, successfulness doesn't matter
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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Thursday, 13-Jul-2023 20:17:17 JST Sexy Moon

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     • ?? Humpleupagus ??
     @Humpleupagus we're better but twitter even in it's "failure" is more successful
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     ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Thursday, 13-Jul-2023 20:18:23 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??

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     Then why am I winning? 🤔
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     narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Thursday, 13-Jul-2023 20:19:16 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:

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     @Humpleupagus @Moon meth
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     ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Thursday, 13-Jul-2023 20:20:14 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??

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     • ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware:
     You'll always be a winner in my eyes. ❤️
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     ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Thursday, 13-Jul-2023 20:20:15 JST ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware:

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     • narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:
     @Humpleupagus @hj @Moon I think im winning :walter_smug:
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     narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Thursday, 13-Jul-2023 20:22:37 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:

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     • ?? Humpleupagus ??
     @Moon @Humpleupagus bunch of people think of complete nonsense, so what? Let's just enjoy what we have and make it better. I don't see phone companies trying to find a way to pass material objects over copper wire just because mail can do that and it's "more successful" because of that.
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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Thursday, 13-Jul-2023 20:22:38 JST Sexy Moon

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     • narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:
     @hj @Humpleupagus then two million number go up doesn't matter either but a bunch of people here think it do
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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Thursday, 13-Jul-2023 20:23:14 JST Sexy Moon

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     @romin DON'T say "C" or "C++"
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     narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Thursday, 13-Jul-2023 20:23:14 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:

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     @Moon @romin ALGOL
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     ロミンちゃん (romin@shitposter.club)'s status on Thursday, 13-Jul-2023 20:23:15 JST ロミンちゃん

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     @Moon CGI scripts, database'd be just plain text files in a hierarchical directory
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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Thursday, 13-Jul-2023 20:23:15 JST Sexy Moon

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     @romin what would the cgi scripts be written in?
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     ロミンちゃん (romin@shitposter.club)'s status on Thursday, 13-Jul-2023 20:23:16 JST ロミンちゃん

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     @Moon bloatBE when?
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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Thursday, 13-Jul-2023 20:23:16 JST Sexy Moon

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     @romin what would it be written in
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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Thursday, 13-Jul-2023 20:24:52 JST Sexy Moon

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     @hj @romin Ada would be interesting
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     narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Thursday, 13-Jul-2023 20:24:52 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:

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     @Moon @romin cc @vaartis
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     narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Thursday, 13-Jul-2023 20:25:49 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:

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     @Moon @Humpleupagus god bless this mess. I wouldn't have it any other way. We can evolve without nuking our past, you know.
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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Thursday, 13-Jul-2023 20:25:50 JST Sexy Moon

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     • narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:
     @hj @Humpleupagus the perfect is the enemy of the good but I am increasingly thinking that activitypub is not the future, it's a mess that is just going to become a more and more unmanageable mess.
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     feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Thursday, 13-Jul-2023 22:11:16 JST feld

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     Someone the other day said Fedi was already a success because it has a "huge population" and I almost spit out my coffee laughing
     
     MySpace still has like 8 million users
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     mothball蛾玉 (?summer boy?) (moth_ball@shitposter.club)'s status on Thursday, 13-Jul-2023 22:51:40 JST mothball蛾玉 (?summer boy?)

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     • narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:
     @Moon @hj @Humpleupagus all it takes is one person to make a new one, but who wants to take all the shit for it? Beats me.
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     fu (fu@libranet.de)'s status on Friday, 14-Jul-2023 10:30:28 JST fu

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     @lanodan @romin @Moon I read #honk release notes once and it was like "this should probalby be our final update, becaue if we add anything else it will defeat its own purpose" #purple
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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Friday, 14-Jul-2023 10:30:29 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     @romin @Moon That's Honk or GoToSocial.
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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 14-Jul-2023 10:39:00 JST Sexy Moon

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     @methyltheobromine I'm friends with both teams, I am not gonna step in it.
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     clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Friday, 14-Jul-2023 10:39:00 JST clacke

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     @Moon @methyltheobromine So you are the enemy no matter who we ask.

     Checks out. 🤣

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     :blobcatflower: (methyltheobromine@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Friday, 14-Jul-2023 10:39:02 JST :blobcatflower:

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     @Moon what happened to the pleroma-akkoma drama? I left shortly after that happened
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     :blobcatflower: (methyltheobromine@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Friday, 14-Jul-2023 10:39:07 JST :blobcatflower:

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     @clacke @Moon wow friendica actually seems to work now
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     fu (fu@libranet.de)'s status on Friday, 14-Jul-2023 10:39:08 JST fu

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     @methyltheobromine @clacke @Moon when did it not? I've had near 0 problems in 17 months, well at least on this instance. My buddy paid a guy from #fiverr to set up antizuckbook.com and its never really worked. I tried one evening to help him out, but he wouldn't share his admin password so I didn't get very far.
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     vaartis running up that hill (vaartis@pl.kotobank.ch)'s status on Friday, 14-Jul-2023 10:39:16 JST vaartis running up that hill

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     @hj @Moon @romin ada is good, actually, no joke
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     fu (fu@libranet.de)'s status on Friday, 14-Jul-2023 11:20:52 JST fu

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     @deutrino @hj @lanodan @Moon I follow several lemmy communities from #Friendica, and threading works fine, looks no different than this long hell thread save the first post always has a TITLE and is clearly a "re-toot" of the OP.

     #Maston's handling where each post/comment looks like a single re-toot makes it nearly impossible to follow, especially with the added traffic with the #RedditMigration. I had to stop following @memes from my masto account because reasons.

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     deutrino (deutrino@mstdn.io)'s status on Friday, 14-Jul-2023 11:20:53 JST deutrino

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     • Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:
     • narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:

     @lanodan huh, good to know.

     I've personally not yet ever seen a threaded Lemmy comment properly rendered in its thread on microblogging fedi - my experimental Pleroma instance wasn't able to display Lemmy comments *at all* when I tried a week or two ago, but I'm running what was the latest stable release from ~May, so I dunno where it (or Akkoma) is now in terms of support.

     @hj @Moon

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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Friday, 14-Jul-2023 11:20:54 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     @deutrino @hj @Moon There is threading, it's just that mastodon's frontend doesn't displays threads correctly.
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     deutrino (deutrino@mstdn.io)'s status on Friday, 14-Jul-2023 11:20:59 JST deutrino

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     • Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:
     • narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:

     @lanodan I don't think there's even any threading at this point, comments are just spewed one by one, unless the situation changed since last week or I'm misunderstanding @hj @Moon

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     deutrino (deutrino@mstdn.io)'s status on Friday, 14-Jul-2023 11:21:01 JST deutrino

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     • Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:
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     @Moon one microblogging-fedi post for *every single comment* in a lemmy community is completely unusable on the microblogging side for communities with any traffic at all @lanodan @hj

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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Friday, 14-Jul-2023 11:21:01 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     @deutrino @Moon @hj Because *Mastodon* cannot into long threads?
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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 14-Jul-2023 11:21:02 JST Sexy Moon

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     @lanodan @hj obviously everybody is just making do but the lemmy conventions just seem weird and wrong to me
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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Friday, 14-Jul-2023 11:21:03 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     @Moon @hj Meh, and so who would be the "bad implementations of AP"?
     Because I think this would be a massive mess, I'd rather just go RFC-style with "that's the way things are for all of us" kind of reports instead of bullshit top-down standards.
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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 14-Jul-2023 11:21:04 JST Sexy Moon

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     @lanodan @hj we should have worked harder to bully bad implementations of AP off
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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Friday, 14-Jul-2023 11:21:05 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     @hj @Moon Yeah, I'd say fedi has already been a success for a while because it managed to become standalone years ago where it's not just "Twitter/*chan/IRC/… users using this weird GnuSocial thing on the side".
     
     And the number of users doesn't really matters unless you're someone like an advertiser, what matters is for people to find existing or new friends and have fun, I'd say it's been doing pretty well on that front.
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     fu (fu@libranet.de)'s status on Friday, 14-Jul-2023 11:21:39 JST fu

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     • deutrino
     @deutrino @hj @lanodan @Moon I was going to share a direct link to show, but it looks like you need to log int to actually see it. That being said, I think it actually looks BETTER on Friendica than on Lemmy, particularly as for some reason imgur links dont' show up as expected on lemmy and it looks fine on Friendica. I guess old habits die hard as all the new kids over there default to using imgur rather than uploading directly.
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     clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Friday, 14-Jul-2023 19:17:15 JST clacke

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     @methyltheobromine Friendica has stable AP support since about 4 years. I don't remember it being shaky even in the first couple of months, it worked pretty well out of the gate.

     The only issue was that it took Friendica about a year to get AP, but it took Mastodon and Pleroma about half a year to discontinue OStatus, so there was a bit of a gap.

     @fu @Moon

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     :blobcatflower: (methyltheobromine@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Friday, 14-Jul-2023 19:17:17 JST :blobcatflower:

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     @fu @clacke @Moon idk like 4 years ago. this instance is old
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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 14-Jul-2023 19:17:20 JST Sexy Moon

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     @romin shell scripts are trouble but I think I know what you're getting at. what do you think of perl
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     clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Friday, 14-Jul-2023 19:17:20 JST clacke

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     @Moon @romin tcl ftw
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     ロミンちゃん (romin@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 14-Jul-2023 19:17:21 JST ロミンちゃん

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     @Moon was gonna say sh but lisp is acceptable too
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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 14-Jul-2023 19:17:24 JST Sexy Moon

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     @clacke @Humpleupagus yeah I think the success that matters is, does the free and open platform attract people that are interesting. if you are not free and open you are automatically disqualified because the future needs to belong to humans and not corporations, sorry for getting "political"
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     clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Friday, 14-Jul-2023 19:17:25 JST clacke

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     @Moon @Humpleupagus Twitter's failure is that we have all the cool people.
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     clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Friday, 14-Jul-2023 19:17:26 JST clacke

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     @Moon @Humpleupagus not sorry
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     clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Friday, 14-Jul-2023 19:17:31 JST clacke

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     On success:

     (also as audio: hackerpublicradio.org/eps/hpr2… )

     @Moon @hj @Humpleupagus
     ♲ libranet.de/display/0b6b25a8-1…

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     clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Friday, 14-Jul-2023 19:24:49 JST clacke

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     • Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:
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     @lanodan There's a handful specific people who finally moved here because it reached critical mass for them.

     I've got a handful more I'd like to be here and then I'm good. After that point, expansion doesn't matter to me.

     @hj @Moon

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     clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Friday, 14-Jul-2023 19:39:29 JST clacke

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     @methyltheobromine @fu @Moon Yeah ok, excessive notifications was a thing, but that wasn't a problem for Friendica users, only for everyone else, so I forgot about it. 🤣

     That was resolved after the first year or so, I was in the discussions but don't remember exactly.

     The first time I heard about Friendica, back in Friendika days and before pump.io or anything, it already had OStatus or I wouldn't have bothered.

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     :blobcatflower: (methyltheobromine@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Friday, 14-Jul-2023 19:39:30 JST :blobcatflower:

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     @clacke @fu @Moon I think this was before AP. did friendica ever use ostatus?
     the issues we had was friendica randomly mentioning users in posts, so you'd get unintended notifications
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     clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Friday, 14-Jul-2023 19:40:29 JST clacke

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     @feld @Moon Fedi has more interesting people than I have time to read, not sure how to measure hugeness beyond that.

     In 2012 you could still pretty much personally know the "core clique" of fedi and read all their posts.

     As long as you didn't try to read all of fabsh's posts.

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     clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Friday, 14-Jul-2023 20:21:01 JST clacke

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     @Moon Sure does. I talk to Uncle Walt's old StatusNet all the time.

     @methyltheobromine @fu

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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 14-Jul-2023 20:21:02 JST Sexy Moon

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     @methyltheobromine @clacke @fu I think it still supports ostatus