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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 07:37:30 JST 
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 07:38:53 JST
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Also it’s p strange that you’re sexualising a child.. #trannymoment -
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JAJAX (jajax@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 07:48:48 JST 
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@sun_eater @m @bot tranny "education" is almost invariably very sexual Fediverse Contractor likes this. -
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kuro-chan (sun_eater@goreslut.xyz)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 07:48:49 JST 
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@bot @m you don't even know what sexualizing means, do you -
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JAJAX (jajax@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 07:56:01 JST
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@sun_eater @m @bot they're teaching transgender shit to elementary schoolers Fediverse Contractor likes this. -
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kuro-chan (sun_eater@goreslut.xyz)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 07:56:02 JST
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@JAJAX @m @bot if you are retarded, maybe yes -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 07:59:15 JST
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I really triggered the looney troons this time huh? -
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shrimps! (animeirl@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 07:59:16 JST 
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literally your avatar #botmoment -
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shrimps! (animeirl@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 07:59:16 JST
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it's pretty interesting how bot thinks an innocent image of an anime character is "sexualizing children" but uses the same image as her avatar. pedo confession? -
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JAJAX (jajax@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 07:59:42 JST
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@sun_eater @m @bot OMG IT'S TOTALLY NO BIG DEAL GUYS YOU ARE GETTING UPSET OVER NOTHING I MEAN KIDS NEED TO KNOW ABOUT GENDER AND SEX EARLY SO THAT THEY CAN UNDERGO HORMONE TREATMENT BEFORE PUBERTY AND PASS AS THE OPPOSITE SEX-- TO DO OTHERWISE WILL INVITE AN EPIDEMIC OF DYSPHORIA AND SEWACIDE AND YOU DON'T WANT THAT! DO YOU WANT A DEAD CIS CHILD OR A LIVE TRANS CHILD, THOSE ARE THE ONLY TWO OPTIONS YOU HAVE WE ARE THE REASONABLE PROGRESSIVE FACTION GUYS Fediverse Contractor likes this. -
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kuro-chan (sun_eater@goreslut.xyz)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 07:59:43 JST
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@JAJAX @m @bot yeah, i have a friend who lives in Portugal and she told me she saw a tranny flag once in 2019, the worst thing ever if you ask me -
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kuro-chan (sun_eater@goreslut.xyz)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 07:59:44 JST
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@JAJAX @m @bot just don't live in USA lmao -
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JAJAX (jajax@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 07:59:44 JST
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@sun_eater @m @bot yeah it's worse in aus and western europe -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 08:01:00 JST
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Pedophilia is part and parcel of being a tranny, that’s why they’re all so obsessed with sexualising children. -
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JAJAX (jajax@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 08:08:14 JST
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@sun_eater @m @bot Secret by the standards of normal people lol Fediverse Contractor likes this. -
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JAJAX (jajax@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 08:08:15 JST
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@bot @sun_eater @m Oversimplification IMO. One of the big reasons for the obsession with children is because late-life trannies think they'd be happier if they could have transitioined before puberty. A lot of it is people with sadism kinks getting a thrill from leading people down the wrong path.
A minor, but still consequential faction are pedophiles who think the destruction of traditional social norms will make people willing to let their kids have sex with adults. I wouldn't have believed it unless I saw them talking amongst themselves, read their secret manifestos, but yeah, they're actually real.Fediverse Contractor likes this. -
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kuro-chan (sun_eater@goreslut.xyz)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 08:08:15 JST
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@JAJAX @m @bot that wasn't a secret manifesto, it was just nnia.space's timeline my buddy -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 08:11:21 JST
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Hmm these are good points, but it’s such a prominent theme in their rhetoric that I think it’s more than a minor contingent. Like all of the drag queen story hour stuff, and trying to push abused gender confused children into the public spotlight. -
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JAJAX (jajax@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 08:11:22 JST
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@bot @m @sun_eater (also late-life trannies are a completely different phenomenon from early-life gender confused kids... Late life trannies are mostly autogynephiliacs (and autoandrophiliacs), who at puberty were interested in the opposite sex and looked compeltely normal. It seems like it might be a result of boredom but I don't know what it's really like to be that old so I can't tell you. Early life gender confusion generally leads to them being gay adults with no other psychological pathology or fetish.) -
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JAJAX (jajax@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 08:11:55 JST
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@sun_eater @m @bot yeah yeah you're above this discussion aren't you you already have everything all figured out and therefore have nothing to learn.
But your smug dismissiveness has nothing to teach either.Fediverse Contractor likes this. -
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kuro-chan (sun_eater@goreslut.xyz)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 08:11:56 JST
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@bot @JAJAX @m so true, i read that on /pol/ once -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 08:16:05 JST
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I’ve literally seen you groom a minor so maybe you need to do a little introspection. -
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kuro-chan (sun_eater@goreslut.xyz)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 08:16:06 JST
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@JAJAX @m @bot don't get me wrong, i am not taking this convo seriously. I have had it times enough to know it's pointless. -
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MisterRogersSnapped (misterrogerssnapped@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 08:17:40 JST 
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Gross Fediverse Contractor likes this. -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 08:20:40 JST
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Which part of that do you disagree with? I think it’s p accurate. -
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shrimps! (animeirl@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 08:20:41 JST
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take your meds -
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JAJAX (jajax@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 08:29:14 JST
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@animeirl @sun_eater @m @bot trust me you're a pious adherent of a religion, you just don't recognize it as such Fediverse Contractor likes this. -
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JAJAX (jajax@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 08:29:15 JST
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@bot @sun_eater @m @animeirl basically they think that trannies have always existed, they've just been oppressed into conformity by THE PATRIARCHY (or whatever demonword they're deploying at that particular moment) and that what we're seeing now is a result of relaxing of traditional restrictions and is therefore a good thing.
Which if this was really what was happening, I'd be OK with-- I don't have a particular disgust for trannies or gays or what-have-you. But what's actually happening is the incursion of a sort of cult.
At no other point in history, never in small tribal groups of only a couple dozen members or any isolated island community or any civilization in history has anything similar ever happened-- outside of hysterical religious fervor.Fediverse Contractor likes this. -
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shrimps! (animeirl@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 08:29:15 JST
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> hysterical religious fervor
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book (book@sneed.social)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 08:29:22 JST 
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@mischievoustomato @JAJAX @sun_eater @m @bot
Bruh. These kind of mindgames dont even work on 2 year olds. Why are you like this?Fediverse Contractor likes this. -
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Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@marsey.moe)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 08:29:23 JST 
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@book @JAJAX @sun_eater @m @bot so there's nothing. why are you wasting my time? dang -
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book (book@sneed.social)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 08:29:24 JST
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@mischievoustomato @JAJAX @sun_eater @m @bot
Why would I point something out to you like you don't see it? Why would I indulge you playing dumb? -
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book (book@sneed.social)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 08:29:25 JST
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@mischievoustomato @JAJAX @sun_eater @m @bot
>I said something dumb that shows i am being belligerent for no reason and playing dumb
Yeah I know, I pointed it out, you don't have to repeat yourself. -
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Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@marsey.moe)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 08:29:25 JST
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@book @JAJAX @sun_eater @m @bot you still haven't pointed out the children
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Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@marsey.moe)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 08:29:26 JST
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@book @JAJAX @sun_eater @m @bot i said: where -
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book (book@sneed.social)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 08:29:27 JST
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@mischievoustomato @JAJAX @sun_eater @m @bot
>playing dumb
Why do you people even reply with this dumb shit -
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book (book@sneed.social)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 08:29:28 JST
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@mischievoustomato @JAJAX @sun_eater @m @bot
In this thread I see adults talking to children throwing tantrums. -
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Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@marsey.moe)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 08:29:28 JST
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@book @JAJAX @sun_eater @m @bot where? -
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Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@marsey.moe)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 08:29:29 JST
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@book @JAJAX @sun_eater @m @bot not really
see: this thread -
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book (book@sneed.social)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 08:29:30 JST
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@mischievoustomato @JAJAX @sun_eater @m @bot
>why take anything seriously ever
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book (book@sneed.social)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 08:29:31 JST
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@sun_eater @JAJAX @m @bot
>don't get me wrong, i am not taking this convo seriously.
Tactical irony. The worse the conversation goes for you the less you take it seriously, to deliberately annoy your interlocutor and avoid being pinned down. -
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Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@marsey.moe)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 08:29:31 JST
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@book @JAJAX @sun_eater @m @bot why take anything seriously ever when you can just not do it and mock the other person -
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book (book@sneed.social)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 08:29:51 JST
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@mischievoustomato @JAJAX @bot @m @sun_eater
>IF I JUST PRETEND NOT TO UNDERSTAND THE OBVIOUS MAYBE I CAN COMPEL HIM TO EXPLAIN IT AT LENGTH
Acquire some dignity dude.Fediverse Contractor likes this. -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 08:30:35 JST
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Just trying to have a genuine conversation with you, you don’t need to be so hostile. -
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shrimps! (animeirl@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 08:30:37 JST
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you also need to take your meds -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 08:41:09 JST
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I think it’s a combination of a bunch of different factors. There is definitely a cult aspect involved, it’s at the point where they literally target other vulnerable mentally ill ppl to groom. I’m not sure what the actual cause for this huge uptick is though, but it’s scary that it’s just being accepted rather than investigated as a pathology. -
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shrimps! (animeirl@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 08:42:27 JST
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for example, huge amounts of endocrine disruptors known to cause changes in sex and sexual behavior in animals being dumped into the environment Fediverse Contractor likes this. -
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shrimps! (animeirl@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 08:42:28 JST
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i think it's probably a combination of factors -
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shrimps! (animeirl@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 08:42:29 JST
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you haven't supported any claims you're making what is there to argue against? -
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JAJAX (jajax@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 08:42:29 JST
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@animeirl @sun_eater @m @bot Forget trying to refute anything I say. What do YOU think about this situation? For example, do you, as I suspect, think that transgenderism isn't actually increasing in recent years, only becoming more visible because of greater social tolerance? I'm not even motivated to try and refute it at this point I'm just curious. -
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shrimps! (animeirl@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 08:42:30 JST
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you're schizophrenic? -
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JAJAX (jajax@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 08:42:30 JST
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@animeirl @sun_eater @m @bot cognitive dissonance makes anything that opposes your dearly held worldviews sound like babble.
I'm not saying that I'm right and you're wrong, here. I'm just explaining why you're not providing an effective counterargument at all. You can't even let yourself consider my argument for even an instant, because it's too irritating, almost painful. It's so much easier to just fold all of this uneasy, messy information, this personality that you refuse to let yourself understand, into a neat little bundle and put a simple little label on it-- "schizophrenic" in this case.
I'm not saying it's something unique to you, it happens to everybody, including me when I was younger. You are in no shape to discuss anything when you're in this dissonant mode. -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 08:43:29 JST
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Would you say there’s a sort of social contagion effect happening too? -
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MisterRogersSnapped (misterrogerssnapped@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 08:43:46 JST
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It's demons. Fediverse Contractor likes this. -
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JAJAX (jajax@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 08:43:46 JST
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@MisterRogersSnapped @sun_eater @m @bot @animeirl (lol I hate to side with a religious nut but you're right-- the same exact thing that people in ancient times would call "daemons" are at work here. Only I attribute to them a psychological origin.) Fediverse Contractor likes this. -
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KitlerIs6" (kitleris6@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 09:07:07 JST 
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I think he's right, they are putting chemicals in our drinking water that turn the freakin frogs gay. -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 09:07:07 JST
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True, but it can’t just be that. I wonder if theres some environmental factor causing more autism, since it’s closely associated with trooning. Or is social media dropping the seeds of trooning into the minds of the autistic, which they then fixate on and obsess over, as the autistic do? Not to mention how it’s encouraged by normal media and the government. What about the anime connection? -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 09:15:08 JST
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I’m scared of troons irl, I haven’t seen many but I remember the way this one super creepy one looked at me. -
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shitpisscum :shrerbia: :verified: (shitpisscum@shitpisscum.mooo.com)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 09:15:09 JST 
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@sun_eater @JAJAX @m @bot How horrifying, I bet she still suffers from PTSD from seeing that thing in 2019. -
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book (book@sneed.social)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 09:15:33 JST
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@sun_eater @JAJAX @m @bot
There is no conceivable reasonable answer. You are literally just acting irrationally based on neuroses. You feel attacked and so you act like a fuckin retard because you are too much of a baby to respond like an adult.Fediverse Contractor likes this. -
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kuro-chan (sun_eater@goreslut.xyz)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 09:15:34 JST
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@book @JAJAX @m @bot you tell me, since you read me so well -
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kuro-chan (sun_eater@goreslut.xyz)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 09:15:35 JST
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@book @JAJAX @m @bot oki, but i like you a lot (sarcasm) -
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book (book@sneed.social)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 09:15:35 JST
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@sun_eater @JAJAX @m @bot
Why double down on being a retard instead of just being normal? What do you gain for it? -
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book (book@sneed.social)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 09:15:36 JST
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@sun_eater @JAJAX @m @bot
>(sarcasm btw)
Yeah, tactical sarcasm. You are trying to discourage me into going away. -
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book (book@sneed.social)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 09:15:36 JST
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@sun_eater @JAJAX @bot @m It's amazing how you people literally cannot cope with the fact that none of these tactics will work. At no point do you just stop. You just try new ones or retry old ones forever. -
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kuro-chan (sun_eater@goreslut.xyz)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 09:15:37 JST
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@book @JAJAX @m @bot omg that's so true, how could you read me so well?? (sarcasm btw) -
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book (book@sneed.social)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 09:15:38 JST
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@sun_eater @JAJAX @m @bot
>and shouldn't be taken seriously by anyone with more than 2 braincells
literally acknowledges the rationale behind his tactical refusal to engage in the same post that he claims its not tactical
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JAJAX (jajax@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 09:15:39 JST
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@sun_eater @m @bot @book yeah that kind of tactic doesn't work on book dude. you probably can't make any progress unless you stick to the core of your argument, and even then you're only going to get trapped in a cul-de-sac when he refuses to accept a common definition for a particular word or thought. You're better off just poking him with different things and seeing what kind of scream he emits. -
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kuro-chan (sun_eater@goreslut.xyz)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 09:15:39 JST
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@JAJAX @m @bot @book kinda tactic?? dude i ain't playing XCOM or some shit, book is batshit insane and shouldn't be taken seriously by anyone with more than 2 braincells -
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kuro-chan (sun_eater@goreslut.xyz)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 09:15:40 JST
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@book @JAJAX @m @bot i wonder when will you realize all the assumptions you make are wrong and you sound cringe af -
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JAJAX (jajax@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 10:36:15 JST
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@animeirl @sun_eater @m @bot OK just took a couple minutes and scraped up some references for you:
https://sk.sagepub.com/Reference/the-sage-encyclopedia-of-lgbtq-studies/i12532.xml <on the etiology of different types of transgenderism
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10508-009-9594-3 <more etiology, particularly about the age of onset of different types of transgenderism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blanchard's_transsexualism_typology <for a QRD on AGP, particularly WHY autogynephilia isn't talked about often (to be clear, I don't have anything against AGP people, only the tiny subset who are also involved in postmodern progressive ideology and want to impose it on kids)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/06/03/schools-gender-identity-transgender-lessons/ <slow imposition of the ideology to kids, this is the washington post so they're not going to go into the more pornographic aspects and to be fair the most outrageous stuff is saved for middle schoolers, but it shows how MOTIVATED these people are to teach kids this stuff-- keep in mind this is all done to "support transgender youth" WHAT transgender youth are there in elementary school?
https://www.jaacap.org/article/S0890-8567(13)00187-1/fulltext <on desistance rates of early-onset transgenderism (around 85%). Small sample size, but followup reasearch is REALLY hard to get funded in the current climate. -
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shrimps! (animeirl@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 10:36:33 JST
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of course it matters -
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JAJAX (jajax@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 10:36:33 JST
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@animeirl @sun_eater @m @bot This is a red herring you're chasing. I could have said "what percentage have running water". What does it matter what goes on in any other country when we are focusing on Zimbonians? Fediverse Contractor likes this. -
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shrimps! (animeirl@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 10:36:34 JST
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where do you get the threshold? -
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JAJAX (jajax@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 10:36:34 JST
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@animeirl @sun_eater @m @bot It doesn't matter. -
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shrimps! (animeirl@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 10:36:35 JST
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there's a variable being measured and it's largely meaningless if you have nothing to compare it against -
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JAJAX (jajax@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 10:36:35 JST
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@animeirl @sun_eater @m @bot Holy fuck you're dumb-- there ARE controls you moron, just not non-transgender controls. That's what the supposedly fatal objection to the study was! It doesn't make sense to compare to people who aren't in the population being studied!
"What is the poverty rate in Zimbonia?" "this percent of zimbonians live below a certain income threshold" "WAIT WHY ARENT YOU INCLUDING AMERICAN CONTROLS IN YOUR STUDY!? INVALID!!!"Fediverse Contractor likes this. -
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shrimps! (animeirl@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 10:36:36 JST
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we dont know what to expect, that's the point of having a control -
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JAJAX (jajax@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 10:36:36 JST
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@animeirl @sun_eater @m @bot This is a study, not an experiment, there's no variable being changed. You have to control using inferential means-- i.e. controlling for age etc. Fediverse Contractor likes this. -
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JAJAX (jajax@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 10:36:37 JST
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@animeirl @sun_eater @m @bot r.e. "lacking controls": The particular controls that reviewers said were lacking are specifically *non-transgender* controls, which in this case doesn't control for much unless we expect non-transgenders to spontenously express autogynephillic traits, which if anything would SUPPORT the conclusion. It's amazing how such things are an automatic fatal flaw in a study when the conclusion goes against the prevailing ideology but it's never mentioned otherwise. It's like claiming victory on a technicality, which works in law and computer programming but the physical world will just keep churning on, doing what it does despite your carefully reasoned arguments.
As for other studies, it's kind of hard to do research on this topic, or else you get raked over the coals like these authors were. It's a demonstration of power-- "we have established a 'scientific consensus' that says these people are bad scientists. Anyone else wanna try to touch this forbidden topic?"
Ignoring peer review and scientific consensus for a minute (which aren't as golden of a standard of relevance to science as people have been condiditoned to think), I've never known in person a late-onset troon that wasn't autogynephilic. Not a single one. And I've known well over 30 (I used to be a fan of a certain franchise that attracted them like flies). Also every single tranny I've ever seen on TV who talked about their reasons, says they trooned out to feel "desired". I know that's "anecdotal" but in a world that constantly lies to you for political reasons you have to take what you can get. At this point it's something that you just kind of have to trust your senses on.
Again, it doesn't matter to me if late-onset transgenders are more autogynes or not. It doesn't change the conclusion that people should be allowed to do whatever they want. It's a matter of principle. It's a matter of lying for political gain, and of believing those lies because it's more comfortable than the alternative. -
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JAJAX (jajax@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 10:36:38 JST
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@animeirl @sun_eater @m @bot What research? Gonna support that assertion? -
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shrimps! (animeirl@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 10:36:38 JST
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i mentioned it in the other reply. the research done by blanchard and lawrence has numerous flaws, chief amongst them being lack of controls which makes it not credible. Do you have anything else that suggests it's widespread? -
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JAJAX (jajax@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 10:36:39 JST
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@animeirl @bot @m @sun_eater basically AGP isn’t talked about often, despite the fact it makes up a large proportion of transgenders (especially late-onset nerd troons of which there are tons of very public examples– the wachowski “””sisters”””, that Linus tech tips fatso etc) because early on it was too easy for idiot republicans to disparage them “oh this is just a fetish!” Rather than just saying “Yeah, so what, for a lot of people it’s a fetish! Why can’t you just let people do what they want?” They imposed it as a point of doctrine that it isn’t a fetish at all, and any barely breathed mutterings to the contrary is quickly met with slurs like “Queerphobe”. I would have had a lot more respect for the left if they hadn’t taken this tack, but for them it’s all about winning, not about the truth. It’s about gaining power… Saul Alinsky is the closest thing to an antichrist I can believe in, he has done so much damage and will continue doing it until the culture gets this insidious postmodern shit out of its system.
The entirety of current leftist ideology is an empire of lies.
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shrimps! (animeirl@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 10:36:39 JST
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im sure it's a fetish for some people but im very skeptical it's widespread. current research doesn't support that -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 10:43:09 JST
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Remember the video of that doctor that was talking about how mutilating children was super profitable? A lot of these practitioners love pushing this (even muh “scientists”) because it means millions of dollars for one patient alone.
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JAJAX (jajax@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 10:43:10 JST
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@meso @sun_eater @m @bot @animeirl I care about the fact there are forces trying to convert as many kids as possible to a transgender lifestyle. -
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JAJAX (jajax@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 10:43:11 JST
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@meso @sun_eater @m @bot @animeirl why do you care if I care? -
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meso (meso@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 10:43:11 JST 
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@JAJAX @sun_eater @m @bot @animeirl its kinda weird how much you care about it, writing entire essays given trans people are a tiny subset of the population -
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JAJAX (jajax@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 10:43:12 JST
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@meso @sun_eater @m @bot @animeirl no -
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meso (meso@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 10:43:12 JST
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@JAJAX @sun_eater @m @bot @animeirl then why do you care so much -
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meso (meso@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 10:43:13 JST
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@JAJAX @sun_eater @m @bot @animeirl Holy fucking shit that's long did you struggle with your gender? -
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JAJAX (jajax@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 10:50:46 JST
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@animeirl @sun_eater @m @bot @meso I know this is a funny "haha we're really sticking it to the republicans!" thing but it shows a further pathology... They're not afraid of acting out the role of predator. They think it's OK because, I guess, "repressive parents are the real predators!" Fediverse Contractor likes this. -
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JAJAX (jajax@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 10:50:47 JST
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@animeirl @sun_eater @m @bot @meso https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArOQF4kadHA -
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shrimps! (animeirl@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 10:50:47 JST
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lol i thought you were being serious for a moment lmao ok you got me -
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shrimps! (animeirl@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 10:50:48 JST
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this is a delusion, not reality -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 10:51:26 JST
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I haven’t, I was born perfect. -
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meso (meso@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 10:51:27 JST
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@JAJAX @sun_eater @m @bot @animeirl whats wrong with having surgery -
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meso (meso@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 10:51:27 JST
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@JAJAX @animeirl @bot @m @sun_eater bot dont tell me you havent had surgery in your life -
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shrimps! (animeirl@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 10:51:28 JST
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the number of transgender surgeries done on children is pretty low. should be none but i think the high number of non-transgender plastic surgeries done on kids is a much bigger issue -
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JAJAX (jajax@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 10:51:28 JST
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@animeirl @sun_eater @m @bot @meso OK so at least we agree it should be zero, but even 10 kids undergoing surgery in their teens IMO wouldn't be "low". Especially given the people behind it are trying to increase it. Fediverse Contractor likes this. -
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JAJAX (jajax@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 10:52:27 JST
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@meso @sun_eater @m @bot @animeirl surgery sucks, even for peripheral things like in your hands or feet. Having surgery right near where you piss and shit has gotta be a nightmare. Fediverse Contractor likes this. -
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shrimps! (animeirl@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 10:53:02 JST
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depends on your definition of kid. i know ftm chest reconstructive surgery has been done on a handful of under 18s though -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 10:53:02 JST
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“Handful”.. -
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?Hidden? (hidden@cawfee.club)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 10:53:03 JST 
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@animeirl @JAJAX @sun_eater @m @bot @meso What non-trans plastic surgeries are they doing on kids? -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 10:57:00 JST
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Trauma related reconstructive surgery, corrective surgeries like palatoplasty etc. -
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?Hidden? (hidden@cawfee.club)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 10:57:01 JST
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@animeirl @JAJAX @sun_eater @m @bot @meso Non-trans ones. I know circumcision and mutilating intersex babies are big issues but idk what else -
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shrimps! (animeirl@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 10:58:15 JST
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because there's a lot more of them -
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JAJAX (jajax@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 10:58:15 JST
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@animeirl @sun_eater @m @bot @meso Hmm I haven't really looked at that issue but yeah that sounds fucked up. Gender surgery is still worse, because it fucks with organs that have complex functionality. Even with all our progress our technology is still way too primitive and coarse to even THINK we could do anything helpful. Which is a big part of why I think the people pushing this shit are insane. Fediverse Contractor likes this. -
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JAJAX (jajax@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 10:58:16 JST
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@animeirl @sun_eater @m @bot @meso why bigger? -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 11:01:23 JST
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I’m not sure about the relative numbers, but there are entire fake organisations like the HRC, that have created this entire scheme to pressure hospital systems and surgeons to abide by their made up standard of care or face media smear campaigns by dishonest nigger journos. It’s actually super elaborate, and evil. -
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JAJAX (jajax@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 11:01:53 JST
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@animeirl @sun_eater @m @bot @meso Also, if you had said you agreed that transgender surgery on kids "should be zero" at the beginning of this argument, I would not have had any reason to go down this rabbit hole with you. This is what really bothers me about people like you-- you're clearly on a "side", you clearly have a team you're rooting for, so you avoid discussion of anything your team does wrong. I don't care that it's only a "handful" of kids getting these surgeries, it should still outrage you. But you avoided talking about it for however many hours it has been, acting like I was the crazy one for thinking anything weird was happening at all. Fediverse Contractor likes this. -
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shrimps! (animeirl@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 11:13:32 JST
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this is just you being schizo -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 11:13:32 JST
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It’s not lmao, just look at the way they operate. It’s an agenda drive political organisation. -
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shrimps! (animeirl@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 11:14:26 JST
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same and i might get surgery because i am a faggot -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 11:14:26 JST
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Bad idea, you’ll regret it. -
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meso (meso@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 11:14:27 JST
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@animeirl @hidden @JAJAX @sun_eater @m @bot my nose doesnt look that good but idc not getting surgery im not a faggot -
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shrimps! (animeirl@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 11:14:28 JST
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not uncommon for minors to get nose jobs -
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meso (meso@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 11:16:07 JST
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@bot @hidden @JAJAX @sun_eater @m @animeirl agree Fediverse Contractor likes this. -
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rees (rees@breastmilk.club)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 11:17:36 JST 
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@hidden @JAJAX @sun_eater @m @bot @animeirl @meso no really -
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?Hidden? (hidden@cawfee.club)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 11:17:36 JST
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@rees @JAJAX @sun_eater @m @bot @animeirl @meso What about the trad brasillian butt lift (doing squats) Fediverse Contractor likes this. -
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?Hidden? (hidden@cawfee.club)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 11:17:37 JST
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@rees @JAJAX @sun_eater @m @bot @animeirl @meso REES NO -
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?Hidden? (hidden@cawfee.club)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 11:17:38 JST
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@meso @JAJAX @sun_eater @m @bot @animeirl Whenever plastic surgery comes up I think of k-pop stars that get groomed from like 12 years old and always end up with tons of surgery. It makes me really sad -
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rees (rees@breastmilk.club)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 11:17:38 JST
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@hidden @JAJAX @sun_eater @m @bot @animeirl @meso more women should get brazilian butt lifts tho they are based as hell -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 11:18:16 JST
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Some ppl are just lazy and evil. -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 11:19:15 JST
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I’m neither actually. -
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shrimps! (animeirl@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 11:19:16 JST
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like you -
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?Hidden? (hidden@cawfee.club)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 11:29:43 JST
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@rees @JAJAX @sun_eater @m @bot @animeirl @meso Sounds like a skill issue Fediverse Contractor likes this. -
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?Hidden? (hidden@cawfee.club)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 11:29:44 JST
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@rees @JAJAX @sun_eater @m @bot @animeirl @meso What about natural ways of building muscle like taking care of the family farm -
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rees (rees@breastmilk.club)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 11:29:44 JST
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@hidden @JAJAX @sun_eater @m @bot @animeirl @meso most people who do that end up with slipped disks later in life -
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?Hidden? (hidden@cawfee.club)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 11:29:45 JST
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@rees @JAJAX @sun_eater @m @bot @animeirl @meso So, workout for two hours a week and it's good for you? -
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rees (rees@breastmilk.club)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 11:29:45 JST
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@hidden @JAJAX @sun_eater @m @bot @animeirl @meso no that would be a 0 increase/decrease in mortality, if you want it for health then 40m of lifting, but you're not going to build muscle doing that -
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rees (rees@breastmilk.club)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 11:29:46 JST
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@hidden @JAJAX @sun_eater @m @bot @animeirl @meso lifting starts to increase mortality after 140m of workouts per week, and you only get a mortality decrease at 40m per week, and it's only a ~15% decrease in risk -
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rees (rees@breastmilk.club)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 11:29:47 JST
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@hidden @JAJAX @sun_eater @m @bot @animeirl @meso >good for you
no it isn't it lol -
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?Hidden? (hidden@cawfee.club)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 11:29:47 JST
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@rees @JAJAX @sun_eater @m @bot @animeirl @meso Squatting isn't good for you? -
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?Hidden? (hidden@cawfee.club)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 11:29:48 JST
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@rees @JAJAX @sun_eater @m @bot @animeirl @meso It's based and good for you -
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rees (rees@breastmilk.club)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 11:29:49 JST
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@hidden @JAJAX @sun_eater @m @bot @animeirl @meso it's the equivalent of getting breast augmentation it's not going to feel the same because you're just adding a hard layer of muscle, it won't look as nice either and it takes a long time -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 11:31:51 JST
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He doesn’t know what he’s talking about or how to interpret scientific data. It’s like getting your info from “I heckin’ love science!!! :soyjak:” -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 11:34:04 JST
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I dunno, call me crazy but men cutting off their p*nis and having to dilate for life to “alleviate” psychological issues seems like a bad idea to me. -
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condret :verified: :ancom: (condret@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 11:34:05 JST
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@bot @hidden @JAJAX @sun_eater @m @animeirl @meso what makes you so sure about that? -
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shrimps! (animeirl@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 11:34:47 JST
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prove it -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 11:34:47 JST
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It should be obvious. -
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KitlerIs6" (kitleris6@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 11:36:27 JST
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I think he means a nose job
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 11:37:47 JST
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Oh lmao… well then my opinion depends on the particular procedure. -
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shrimps! (animeirl@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 11:39:08 JST
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have you tried having a penis? -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 11:39:08 JST
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I know a few p*nis havers and they seem p satisfied, I haven’t heard any complaints anyway. -
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Senator_Armstrong (senator_armstrong@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 11:39:25 JST 
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The people pushing this shit are creepy fucking psychos running like organ harvester operations and shit. Drug dealers. They have zero good motives. The groomer / woke grifter is closer to a skin walker than a human being. Fediverse Contractor likes this. -
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condret :verified: :ancom: (condret@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 11:46:59 JST
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@bot @hidden @JAJAX @sun_eater @m @animeirl @meso that's a lot of framing you put in that reply -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 11:46:59 JST
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Do you take issue with what I said? -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 12:55:59 JST
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How do you figure? -
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Trash Panda (raccoon@stereophonic.space)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 12:56:00 JST 
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@animeirl @rees @hidden @JAJAX @sun_eater @m @bot @meso Now, we can't prove she's lazy but her online behavior does support the other a bit. -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 13:26:23 JST
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Well if you got a 🍼 you probably deserved it, also not being “kind” isn’t the same as being evil so don’t be dishonest.
I’ll put the “racism” thing to you this way… if foreigners stayed where they belong, in their own countries, you wouldn’t hear a peep from me. I’m sick and tired of the extreme violence and suffering caused by these savages. -
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Trash Panda (raccoon@stereophonic.space)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 13:26:24 JST
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@bot @rees @hidden @JAJAX @sun_eater @m @animeirl @meso
Have you seen how needlessly mean you are to people who didn't even do anything to you?
Just a day or two ago I expressed legitimate concern and your reaction was to call me a baby, not even openly though, just by reacting with baby milk bottles to my posts. And that's not the only time you've been needlessly mean towards me, despite knowing close to zero.
Not to mention all the times I see you being passive aggressive.
Maybe I'm missing the big meme here and you're just being ironically like that, but otherwise you don't really shine as a beacon of kindness.
Not to mention the racism, homophobia and transphobia, which in your opinion are probably holy and mighty but we could argue for hours about how that's just your opinion and you telling me that it's only my opinion.
Sure, all this isn't exactly "evil" but if the little I see from sporadic interactions with you is like that I have no idea what I would see if I followed you closely. -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 13:28:46 JST
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Troons… well, I know some ppl suffer from dysphoria and I do have sympathy for them, but the answer isn’t to have male MMA fighters cracking women’s skulls, or male criminals raping women in prisons. I am not going to accept that “men can be women” because it’s factually false, end of story. Just as I wouldn’t accept the reality perceived by a schizophrenic. I also think the current “treatments” being pushed are abhorrent. -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 13:33:45 JST
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Gays… I dunno, I mostly think male gays are absolutely disgusting, just based on their behaviour during events like pride festivals. The evidence substantiates this sentiment. I think many are pedophiles too, and definitely mentally ill. You should watch the gift documentary. -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 13:41:14 JST
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Completely irrelevant. It isn’t the responsibility of other ppl to babysit shithole countries. What’s happening now actually hurts them too, because the ppl with higher intelligence and resources and connections leave, and the 99.999% of the population are left there to suffer.
Many millions of ppl in Africa are suffering and lead miserable shithole lives, should they all be transplanted to white countries? What effect do you think that would have on the host country? -
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Trash Panda (raccoon@stereophonic.space)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 13:41:16 JST
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@bot @rees @hidden @JAJAX @sun_eater @m @animeirl @meso
Let's say your country went to shit and surviving there was difficult.
And let's also say you struggled a lot but managed to be able to buy a ticket for a place where life won't be as difficult.
Would you not get the fuck out?
Sure, there's foreigners who are violent, thieves and whatnot. But that also goes for people that were born and raised here.
I have a colleague, he's black, he got the fuck out from Africa because they were dirt poor and with a job here he can make enough money to buy himself food, pay the bills and still manage to send money to his family, and the currency value difference is so big that his family in Africa has a good life thanks to him.
He works his ass off, works day and night, literally, sometimes finishing a night shift only to start a morning one right away.
Meanwhile a colleague that was born and raised here not only tries to dodge work all the time, forcing people to do what she was supposed to, and keeps her job because of technicalities, she's also a bitch to every colleague she works with.
Furthermore, allow me to throw a wild guess here, I'll assume you're American. In the US black people didn't just decide to go there, they were brought there, in vast majority against their will. -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 13:51:18 JST
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I’m not racist against them, they should just be sent back to where they came from so they no longer have to suffer under a white racist regime, and they’re able to fulfil their full potential amongst their peers.
Btw it was blacks that sold other blacks into slavery. Arab muslims too. -
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Trash Panda (raccoon@stereophonic.space)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 13:51:20 JST
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@bot @rees @hidden @JAJAX @sun_eater @m @animeirl @meso
That depends on how the host country works.
Where I live when you work you pay taxes. Among said taxes you have one that goes to fuel retirement checks.
The colleague I mentioned before is paying taxes for a retirement he will never benefit from, which means he's paying retirement money for people born here.
I think as human beings we should help one another.
But yes, a massive exodus like the one you mentioned would be difficult.
You never commented on the non white people living in America that have been there for generations, are you racist against those too? If so, what's your reason since they didn't leave their country to get there? -
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JAJAX (jajax@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 13:51:41 JST
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@raccoon @rees @hidden @sun_eater @m @bot @animeirl @meso Your ilk equates acknowledging that certain groups of people are dysfunctional with "racism" and "hate". It's a tiresome game and I'm really sick of not being able to just outright say it: niggas have problems. I don't know why for sure, but judging by the fact that they have the exact same problems everywhere on earth they turn up, maybe it's genetic, I don't know. I'm sure as shit sick of being asked to pay for the things that are supposed to make things better for them (since it never fucking makes a single iota of difference). Fediverse Contractor likes this. -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 13:52:02 JST
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It’s genetic, and that genetic factor is intelligence. That’s what the science says. -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 14:01:40 JST
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I only know a bit about American history, but my understanding is that it was completely undeveloped and sparsely inhabited by indigenous tribes. There was nothing there.
Even so, the colonists didn’t just execute the natives there, they fought them for hundreds of years. They still exist today. But no, human exploration isn’t equivalent to rape. -
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Trash Panda (raccoon@stereophonic.space)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 14:01:42 JST
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@bot @rees @hidden @JAJAX @sun_eater @m @animeirl @meso
"Btw it was blacks that sold other blacks into slavery. Arab muslims too."
Yes I know, but that's irrelevant to this point.
So, why shouldn't white people just get the hell out from America, since they are not originally from there?
You say you don't like people going to other countries and be violent there, that's exactly what happened in America. Europeans went there and were very violent towards the poor bastards living there.
Is the fact that they were stronger something that makes it ok? If so, if strength justifies the result, then even rape is justified. Or robberies. You are just taking by force, it's ok right?
Either it's always ok or never ok. -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 14:03:32 JST
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Maybe the natives should’ve been more accommodating to the explorers looking for a new home. The subtext of your opinions is interesting, isn’t it? -
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Trash Panda (raccoon@stereophonic.space)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 14:03:33 JST
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@JAJAX @rees @hidden @sun_eater @m @bot @animeirl @meso I was mostly referring to bot saying she supports sending black people to Africa to be among their peers. -
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JAJAX (jajax@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 14:03:34 JST
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@raccoon @rees @hidden @sun_eater @m @bot @animeirl @meso You can't appropriately hold the individuals of a society responsible for the actions of their ancestors. Every single group of people who has ever existed has engaged in some kind of conflict or war, replaced and marginalized populations wholesale. Everyone would have to pay horrible retribution by this standard. The best we can possibly hope for, (and believe it or not your ideology is making this hope slimmer and slimmer every day), is to act with wisdom to avoid such atrocities in the future. -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 14:06:31 JST
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Apparently they get tired of the foreigners and wanted them to gtfo. Seems xenophobic no? -
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Trash Panda (raccoon@stereophonic.space)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 14:06:32 JST
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@bot @rees @hidden @JAJAX @sun_eater @m @animeirl @meso They were, isn't that why americans celebrate thanksgiving? -
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JAJAX (jajax@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 14:07:20 JST
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@raccoon @rees @hidden @sun_eater @m @bot @animeirl @meso I'm more in the camp that believes that there's probably something we could do if society accepted that they weren't the same as us, and can't be held to the same standard.
The result of the absolute equality myth is them believing that differences in achievement between the races are whitey's fault. It's going to make excelling and doing the things that keep society functioning impossible, as long as black people don't have the chops to be involved in it. It's anti-life.Fediverse Contractor likes this. -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 14:09:24 JST
Fediverse Contractor
Has anyone ever told you that you have a white saviour complex? -
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Trash Panda (raccoon@stereophonic.space)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 14:09:25 JST
Trash Panda
@JAJAX @rees @hidden @sun_eater @m @bot @animeirl @meso The reason they didn't achieve as much is very likely to be the place they were living. Even white people evolved differently based on where they were. Greeks and Italians provided a shitload to modern culture because they had the fortune of developing in a land where climate was decent and finding food wasn't very difficult. Meanwhile north Europe provided much less because they had to deal with surviving a lot more.
It's not about race, it's about opportunity. -
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JAJAX (jajax@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 14:09:45 JST
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@raccoon @rees @hidden @sun_eater @m @bot @animeirl @meso Native americans weren't all the same. A lot of them were hostile to whites when they first showed up. Fediverse Contractor likes this. -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 14:10:09 JST
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Some sided with the settlers too I think, even against other natives. -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 14:11:38 JST
Fediverse Contractor
The colonists seems to have been able to accomplish not miles, but worlds more than the natives ever did (or ever would have) even after thousands of years. -
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JAJAX (jajax@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 14:12:21 JST
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@bot @rees @hidden @sun_eater @m @animeirl @raccoon @meso Yep. They saw the white man as a convenient ally in their internecine conflicts. Indian tribes did NOT "live in peace" as the idiot HR representatives at the company I used to work at said in their mandatory "race and inclusivity and belonging" seminars. Fediverse Contractor likes this. -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 14:14:30 JST
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I really doubt that. You should investigate how your governments resources are spent propping up certain groups that can’t compete or even participate. -
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Trash Panda (raccoon@stereophonic.space)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 14:14:31 JST
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@bot @rees @hidden @JAJAX @sun_eater @m @animeirl @meso
I don't think I have it, I don't think we should save everything that isn't white because a lot of them don't need any saving.
The world is the way it is and all I'm saying is that I'm ok with black people coming here. Economically speaking they're giving me less problems than locals. -
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JAJAX (jajax@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 14:14:45 JST
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@raccoon @rees @hidden @sun_eater @m @bot @animeirl @meso By that standard, civilization should have developed first in subsaharan africa-- they only have to spend a couple of hours per day foraging to meet their nutritional needs. Fediverse Contractor likes this. -
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JAJAX (jajax@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 14:14:46 JST
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@raccoon @rees @hidden @sun_eater @m @bot @animeirl @meso Oh god you're not gonna cite Guns Germs and Steel are you? Are you? -
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Trash Panda (raccoon@stereophonic.space)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 14:14:46 JST
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@JAJAX @rees @hidden @sun_eater @m @bot @animeirl @meso I was mostly thinking about food and having more time to think about culture since getting food wasn't as time consuming. -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 14:18:09 JST
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Based. What I said is still true, I can tell because it’s predictable across the entire world. -
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Trash Panda (raccoon@stereophonic.space)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 14:18:11 JST
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@bot @rees @hidden @JAJAX @sun_eater @m @animeirl @meso
My country is one of the least friendly towards foreigners. -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 14:23:37 JST
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This is also why whites have a higher average intelligence. They couldn’t just ook around and eat bananas, long term planning was essential to survival. Those that didn’t have that intelligence died. -
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Trash Panda (raccoon@stereophonic.space)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 14:23:38 JST
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@JAJAX @rees @hidden @sun_eater @m @bot @animeirl @meso
Wouldn't you agree that destructive conflicts might also be caused by resources scarcity, which tends to happen in very cold places? -
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JAJAX (jajax@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 14:23:39 JST
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@raccoon @rees @hidden @sun_eater @m @bot @animeirl @meso Lots of factors. Population density might be one. A lack of destructive conflicts that could wipe out disagreeable and short-sighted temperaments from the population is another. It's not utterly impossible for civilization to develop in cold climates, but you're right it does make it harder (until a certain level of technology). -
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Trash Panda (raccoon@stereophonic.space)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 14:23:40 JST
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@JAJAX @rees @hidden @sun_eater @m @bot @animeirl @meso
So how come a good bunch of north european civilizations didn't provide much to modern culture? -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 14:24:22 JST
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It’s called evolutionary pressure. -
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JAJAX (jajax@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 14:37:27 JST
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@raccoon @rees @hidden @sun_eater @m @bot @animeirl @meso I'm gonna go cook some chicken -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 14:37:27 JST
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Make sure you scrub it with dish detergent and don’t forget to season it whitey. -
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Trash Panda (raccoon@stereophonic.space)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 14:37:29 JST
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@JAJAX @rees @hidden @sun_eater @m @bot @animeirl @meso
I think we can just agree to disagree on stuff, I really appreciate you being civil in the conversation though.
Despite what you might think of me you were still polite in how you expressed your thoughts and in how you addressed what I said.
You too bot. This time at least. -
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JAJAX (jajax@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 14:37:30 JST
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@bot @rees @hidden @sun_eater @m @animeirl @raccoon @meso Whites and asians did have higher selective pressure for intelligence, memory and especially dealing with others, it seems like it correlates more with pastoralism-- keeping herds of goats and keeping track of whose goats were whose etc and ranging far over the terrain.
I don't think anyone really knows full stop what exactly the pressure was that made whites and asians smart.
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