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    anime graf mays ?️? (graf@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Sep-2022 08:43:34 JST anime graf mays ?️? anime graf mays ?️?
    i cant believe people are retarded enough that i have to say it but if you are going to threaten to put poast in a position to be deplatformed, especially with whats going on right now you will be removed. that shit is not and will not ever be welcome here
    In conversation Tuesday, 06-Sep-2022 08:43:34 JST from poa.st permalink
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      積ん読 (book@sleepy.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Sep-2022 08:42:51 JST 積ん読 積ん読
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      • sim
      • Jonny
      @Moon @graf @Fever @sim
      >your server has no right to compel my server to process a single byte of information.
      Sure it does. I have the right to free speech; I have the right to speak to you.
      >fediverse servers are remarkably permissive as-is but there are limits.
      There are not.
      >or example SPC recently had to disable processing remote delete requests, solely for the pragmatic reason that remote account deletion floods servers with enough delete requests that it can disable the entire site. poa.st and a number of other servers have done this as well because the software literally just can't handle it.
      This is what I hate the most.
      >Have to
      You didn't have to. You chose to.
      In conversation Tuesday, 06-Sep-2022 08:42:51 JST permalink
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      Elden Ring :verified: (Ukko) (gnutard@bruh.homd.xyz)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Sep-2022 08:42:51 JST Elden Ring :verified: (Ukko) Elden Ring :verified: (Ukko)
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      • Sexy Moon
      • sim
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      • Jonny
      @book @graf @Fever @Moon @sim

      > I have the right to free speech; I have the right to speak to you.

      I have the right to not listen, to not let you in my home, to tell you to fuck off.
      In conversation Tuesday, 06-Sep-2022 08:42:51 JST permalink
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      Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Sep-2022 08:42:53 JST Sexy Moon Sexy Moon
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      • sim
      • 積ん読
      • Jonny
      @book @graf @Fever @sim your server has no right to compel my server to process a single byte of information. fediverse servers are remarkably permissive as-is but there are limits. for example SPC recently had to disable processing remote delete requests, solely for the pragmatic reason that remote account deletion floods servers with enough delete requests that it can disable the entire site. poa.st and a number of other servers have done this as well because the software literally just can't handle it. :shrug_kon: this is on one end of the extreme of why we need to be able to limit what we comply with.
      In conversation Tuesday, 06-Sep-2022 08:42:53 JST permalink
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      積ん読 (book@sleepy.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Sep-2022 08:42:54 JST 積ん読 積ん読
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      • Sexy Moon
      • sim
      • Jonny
      @Moon @graf @Fever @sim It is 100% applicable to just not hit a button to violate someone's rights as opposed to hitting the button. There is no force in the universe that compels you to do this. You can just not do it. It costs nothing.
      In conversation Tuesday, 06-Sep-2022 08:42:54 JST permalink
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      Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Sep-2022 08:42:59 JST Sexy Moon Sexy Moon
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      • sim
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      • Jonny
      @book @Fever @graf @sim by the way i am not even rejecting your values that you are proposing i am strongly disagreeing with the applicability of those values to one particular case of two pieces of server software interacting independently without human intervention.
      In conversation Tuesday, 06-Sep-2022 08:42:59 JST permalink
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      積ん読 (book@sleepy.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Sep-2022 08:43:01 JST 積ん読 積ん読
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      • Sexy Moon
      • sim
      • Jonny
      @Moon @graf @Fever @sim
      > that doesn't make it a person, and an autonomous agent of a person that is never actually checked by the person is even further still away.
      This is exactly as true for every single account that exists on here. They are not literally people. They are the property of people.
      >all a followbot does is dump your server's posts on another server's known network timeline.
      Which anyone has a right to do.
      >again if you the human want to follow someone, literally nothing is stopping you,
      You're literally stopping them with force.
      >which is actually a pretty good place to define the difference between a real person and a software agent.
      No, it's a completely arbitrary plaace.
      You should not be able to draw that line.
      In fact, you should not be able to draw lines at all.
      I don't know who told you you had legitimate authority but you don't.
      No one voted for you.
      In conversation Tuesday, 06-Sep-2022 08:43:01 JST permalink
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      Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Sep-2022 08:43:01 JST Sexy Moon Sexy Moon
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      • sim
      • 積ん読
      • Jonny
      @book @graf @Fever @sim software protocols are constraints and agreement, nothing would work without constraints and agreement. at a higher level on the stack we're saying interact with our server in this way only or we'll just drop your actions because we're not obligated to return any data to you just because you ask for it. and our request is in fact very reasonable because we are not even saying we refuse to talk to you, we are saying there should be a 1:1 connection between human follow action and software follow action and not third-party server admin requesting thousands of follows for maybe other people or maybe nobody.
      In conversation Tuesday, 06-Sep-2022 08:43:01 JST permalink
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      積ん読 (book@sleepy.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Sep-2022 08:43:04 JST 積ん読 積ん読
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      • sim
      • Jonny
      @Moon @graf @Fever @sim Did the bot make itself?
      In conversation Tuesday, 06-Sep-2022 08:43:04 JST permalink
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      Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Sep-2022 08:43:04 JST Sexy Moon Sexy Moon
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      • sim
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      • Jonny
      @book @graf @Fever @sim that doesn't make it a person, and an autonomous agent of a person that is never actually checked by the person is even further still away. all a followbot does is dump your server's posts on another server's known network timeline. again if you the human want to follow someone, literally nothing is stopping you, except having to make a conscious decision to do so which is actually a pretty good place to define the difference between a real person and a software agent.
      In conversation Tuesday, 06-Sep-2022 08:43:04 JST permalink
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      Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Sep-2022 08:43:08 JST Sexy Moon Sexy Moon
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      • 積ん読
      • Jonny
      @sim @book @Fever @graf a bot isn't people anyway, and nothing is stopping anybody on that instance from clicking follow and following somebody on here.
      In conversation Tuesday, 06-Sep-2022 08:43:08 JST permalink
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      sim@shitposter.club's status on Tuesday, 06-Sep-2022 08:43:10 JST sim sim
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      • Jonny
      @book @graf @Fever @Moon You are taking issue with a bot being disabled. Does this even apply to bots that spam your account with questionable ad links? Or images you don't want to see?

      While I understand that disassociating with people isn't something to do lightly, especially when they depend on you or your community... sometimes it actually is for the better for those involved. Some people really are bad for you to associate with, they will erode your boundaries because they know they can get away with it. Not everyone will get along, muting or blocking them is a good practice or else you end up with lots of drama which is unhealthy. But these are better done at the individual level.
      In conversation Tuesday, 06-Sep-2022 08:43:10 JST permalink
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      積ん読 (book@sleepy.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Sep-2022 08:43:11 JST 積ん読 積ん読
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      • Sexy Moon
      • sim
      • Jonny
      @sim @graf @Fever @Moon I don't believe in freedom of association. I believe unpersoning people is an abomination.
      In conversation Tuesday, 06-Sep-2022 08:43:11 JST permalink
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      sim@shitposter.club's status on Tuesday, 06-Sep-2022 08:43:13 JST sim sim
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      • 積ん読
      • Jonny
      @book @graf @Fever @Moon I suppose this comes back to freedom of association. I don't appreciate followbots following me personally. I view them as spam. I don't need to be randomly added to other instances, to be spammed by these bots following me. I've had a few of them do this in the past, even attempt to refollow and it was annoying. Let people find me organically through who they follow and show up that way.
      In conversation Tuesday, 06-Sep-2022 08:43:13 JST permalink
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      積ん読 (book@sleepy.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Sep-2022 08:43:14 JST 積ん読 積ん読
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      • Sexy Moon
      • sim
      • Jonny
      @sim @graf @Fever @Moon
      >it can still follow other people from other instances.
      But not the one that censored it.
      In conversation Tuesday, 06-Sep-2022 08:43:14 JST permalink
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      sim@shitposter.club's status on Tuesday, 06-Sep-2022 08:43:19 JST sim sim
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      • Jonny
      @book @graf @Fever @Moon They shouldn't give a fuck. It's just a followbot, it can still follow other people from other instances. Not everyone wants to be followed by a followbot, which is why it is usual to see #nobot in bios. Some instance admins will disable bots on their instances or from other instances showing up on their instance. They tend to be spammy.
      In conversation Tuesday, 06-Sep-2022 08:43:19 JST permalink
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      積ん読 (book@sleepy.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Sep-2022 08:43:20 JST 積ん読 積ん読
      in reply to
      • Sexy Moon
      • 積ん読
      • Jonny
      @Moon @Fever @graf Why should that user give a fuck what you want?
      In conversation Tuesday, 06-Sep-2022 08:43:20 JST permalink
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      積ん読 (book@sleepy.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Sep-2022 08:43:21 JST 積ん読 積ん読
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      • Sexy Moon
      • Jonny
      @Moon @graf @Fever And what you want must be imposed on others?
      In conversation Tuesday, 06-Sep-2022 08:43:21 JST permalink
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      Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Sep-2022 08:43:23 JST Sexy Moon Sexy Moon
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      • Jonny
      @book @graf @Fever want interactions to be organic
      In conversation Tuesday, 06-Sep-2022 08:43:23 JST permalink
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      積ん読 (book@sleepy.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Sep-2022 08:43:24 JST 積ん読 積ん読
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      • Sexy Moon
      • Jonny
      @Moon @graf @Fever Why
      In conversation Tuesday, 06-Sep-2022 08:43:24 JST permalink
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      Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Sep-2022 08:43:29 JST Sexy Moon Sexy Moon
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      • Jonny
      @book @graf @Fever natural timeline generation only
      In conversation Tuesday, 06-Sep-2022 08:43:29 JST permalink
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      積ん読 (book@sleepy.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Sep-2022 08:43:30 JST 積ん読 積ん読
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      • Sexy Moon
      • Jonny
      @Moon @graf @Fever Why?
      In conversation Tuesday, 06-Sep-2022 08:43:30 JST permalink
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      Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Sep-2022 08:43:33 JST Sexy Moon Sexy Moon
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      • Jonny
      @Fever @graf report them and I'll disable them.
      In conversation Tuesday, 06-Sep-2022 08:43:33 JST permalink
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      Jonny (fever@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Sep-2022 08:43:34 JST Jonny Jonny
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      @graf are these follow bots normal? I just started getting a lot of these noties
      In conversation Tuesday, 06-Sep-2022 08:43:34 JST permalink

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