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Chudbere (Clairebere) :duckjam: (chudbere@chudbuds.lol)'s status on Sunday, 05-Mar-2023 00:32:24 JST Chudbere (Clairebere) :duckjam: Why are the usernames on Nostr gigantic strings of letters and numbers? You expect me to remember and know a bizarre alphanumeric code when tagging someone? Or know who people are based on their pfp alone? I obviously am missing something here about why this is the greatest thing since sliced bread to hit the fedi. -
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:loading: (sui@chudbuds.lol)'s status on Sunday, 05-Mar-2023 00:32:24 JST :loading: I think the hex code thing is because of the bridge that one of the gleasons developed. I'm tempted to mute it already tbh.
I'm still not sure what the point to it is really, it's filled with crypto fanatics apparently and that's how they intend to fund the nodes. They still have jannies and moderation, just less humanized and community focused. They still have instances, they're just more often closed off from others. It does apparently costs less money to run a node than an instance. But if/when you're banned from the major nodes, you are pretty much fucked from using the site. Seems like a dumb fad to me, fixes none of the problems with the fediverse and just adds to them. -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 05-Mar-2023 00:33:59 JST Fediverse Contractor There’s @‘s on nostr, it’s just that Alex set up the bridge that way (not sure why..). -
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Sir_Ivissia (sir_ivissia@chudbuds.lol)'s status on Sunday, 05-Mar-2023 00:42:50 JST Sir_Ivissia Most of the problems with the various parts of fedi are solved problems.
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 05-Mar-2023 00:42:50 JST Fediverse Contractor Except all of the defederations and blocks and general gayness. -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 05-Mar-2023 00:43:37 JST Fediverse Contractor It probably could’ve been done another way. -
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Flick ?? (flick@spinster.xyz)'s status on Sunday, 05-Mar-2023 00:43:38 JST Flick ?? @bot @chudbere He said yesterday that it was for compatibility with Mastodon.
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:loading: (sui@chudbuds.lol)'s status on Sunday, 05-Mar-2023 00:45:43 JST :loading: They still have blocking, you can still get defederated from their instances/nodes and judging by its most vocal advocates.. There will be no shortage of gay drama there. Also, you dropped your bottle out of your pram again. Here y'go, clumsy baby ? -
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Flick ?? (flick@spinster.xyz)'s status on Sunday, 05-Mar-2023 00:48:48 JST Flick ?? @bot @chudbere https://gleasonator.com/objects/4dff2168-1793-4dbf-a6df-c536be98b379
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 05-Mar-2023 00:49:38 JST Fediverse Contractor Oh that’s too bad. It’s a mistake imo, literally who cares about mastodon? They’ll block it anyway since they hate Alex. -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 05-Mar-2023 00:50:10 JST Fediverse Contractor You don’t even know what you’re talking about, there are no instances. -
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:loading: (sui@chudbuds.lol)'s status on Sunday, 05-Mar-2023 00:51:15 JST :loading: Nodes are instances.
Those that run the nodes are jannies.
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 05-Mar-2023 00:53:48 JST Fediverse Contractor You can block ppl on your account. Relays could hypothetically ban you, but the entire point is you use several relays so it doesn’t matter.
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Chudbere (Clairebere) :duckjam: (chudbere@chudbuds.lol)'s status on Sunday, 05-Mar-2023 00:53:49 JST Chudbere (Clairebere) :duckjam: So you can't block people or defederate them, and there's no jannies? What's to stop someone from making accounts to spam gore/porn/pedophilic content? Is this just basically an unmoderated imageboard for the fediverse? -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 05-Mar-2023 00:54:30 JST Fediverse Contractor You don’t have that potential legal liability of hosting illegal content as a relay admin. -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 05-Mar-2023 00:55:38 JST Fediverse Contractor Those are relays retard. The entire point of nostr is that you use many relays so there’s no single point to unilaterally ban and censor you. -
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:loading: (sui@chudbuds.lol)'s status on Sunday, 05-Mar-2023 00:56:55 JST :loading: See also: Instances. -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 05-Mar-2023 00:57:40 JST Fediverse Contractor I realise you’re too stupid to understand this. I’ll see if someone is able to explain it in the form of a children’s book for the disabled. -
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:loading: (sui@chudbuds.lol)'s status on Sunday, 05-Mar-2023 01:02:49 JST :loading: Is there a practical difference for most fedi users?
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Hunter S. Bloomfer (bloomfer@coolsite.win)'s status on Sunday, 05-Mar-2023 01:02:50 JST Hunter S. Bloomfer She is somewhat right here, now i need a shower -
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:loading: (sui@chudbuds.lol)'s status on Sunday, 05-Mar-2023 01:04:08 JST :loading: Says the baby who can't even hold onto her bottle of warm milk.
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 05-Mar-2023 01:05:03 JST Fediverse Contractor It’s less complicated, according to Alex anyway. I’ll explain it like this.. rn you could defed me and I’d lose the ability to talk to everyone on chudbuds. That isn’t possible on nostr because everyone uses multiple relays, so even if one relay bans you, you can still reach everyone. -
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Chudbere (Clairebere) :duckjam: (chudbere@chudbuds.lol)'s status on Sunday, 05-Mar-2023 01:05:04 JST Chudbere (Clairebere) :duckjam: Now I'm even more confused. It's better because there aren't blocks or defeds (except there are?), and it's better because there aren't jannies (except there are?). And people can still post illegal content, but the jannies don't have to worry about it because they aren't hosting it, just "relaying" it.
Maybe I'm just being a boomer here but I really don't understand the point. Sounds like just a more complicated version of activity pub instances. -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 05-Mar-2023 01:07:21 JST Fediverse Contractor Relays just don’t host media at all. In terms of this hypothetical problem of someone spamming cp, it’s just like if someone made an account on chudbuds and did that. Except you’d personally be hosting illegal content. -
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:loading: (sui@chudbuds.lol)'s status on Sunday, 05-Mar-2023 01:08:09 JST :loading: So again, is that a practical difference to most fedi users or not?
It's not difficult to make alts, I have like 10-12 at this point. Most people seem to have ~1-3 active accounts, and main on one instance. You can already bypass defederations easily, with either you making alts or those in the echo chamber instances making alts. So what's the fucking point for the average fedi user? I get why people like bot love the idea, because they're incapable of taking personal accountability for being defederated/fucked with and think the jannies are just out to get them. -
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Hunter S. Bloomfer (bloomfer@coolsite.win)'s status on Sunday, 05-Mar-2023 01:08:10 JST Hunter S. Bloomfer You don't register an account with a relay, you generate your own key pair to authenticate yourself. Relays just send your messages to other users. If a relay kicks you there are still others you can use. :loading: likes this. -
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:loading: (sui@chudbuds.lol)'s status on Sunday, 05-Mar-2023 01:09:37 JST :loading: Yeah, that bridge is gay.
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Hunter S. Bloomfer (bloomfer@coolsite.win)'s status on Sunday, 05-Mar-2023 01:09:38 JST Hunter S. Bloomfer Not really, just use what you Iike. Besides the retarded bridge @alex wrote :loading: likes this. -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 05-Mar-2023 01:13:00 JST Fediverse Contractor He “can’t”, it’s because mastodon is gay and he wants to support it for some reason. -
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Hunter S. Bloomfer (bloomfer@coolsite.win)'s status on Sunday, 05-Mar-2023 01:13:01 JST Hunter S. Bloomfer That's why I have it defederated until he fix the long as strings -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 05-Mar-2023 01:13:20 JST Fediverse Contractor How many of those alts are defederated by graf from the PPN? -
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:loading: (sui@chudbuds.lol)'s status on Sunday, 05-Mar-2023 01:13:50 JST :loading: Two. -
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Chudbere (Clairebere) :duckjam: (chudbere@chudbuds.lol)'s status on Sunday, 05-Mar-2023 01:16:11 JST Chudbere (Clairebere) :duckjam: Who hosts content on nostr? If someone wants to upload an image there, where is it being uploaded to? -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 05-Mar-2023 01:16:11 JST Fediverse Contractor Anywhere. Most ppl use nostr.build rn. But as a relay admin, you’d just have to delete and block posts with the domain or link. -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 05-Mar-2023 01:25:55 JST Fediverse Contractor We’re talking about media. Relays don’t host media. -
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dia (dia@kurosawa.moe)'s status on Sunday, 05-Mar-2023 01:25:59 JST dia the relays host the content, apparently: https://nostr.com/relays.
when someone posts content it can go to multiple relays at once. other people go to the relay to fetch the data. it differs from AP in that there's no "federation" aspect between relays like you would see from instances here, people fetch data directly from multiple different relays.
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 05-Mar-2023 01:29:05 JST Fediverse Contractor Who is emma? What? In conversation permalink -
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dia (dia@kurosawa.moe)'s status on Sunday, 05-Mar-2023 01:29:06 JST dia i saw emma's reply, yeah that makes sense In conversation permalink -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 05-Mar-2023 01:30:12 JST Fediverse Contractor Every single one of mine is, even on nostr. So this point you’re making is dumb. In conversation permalink -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 05-Mar-2023 01:31:42 JST Fediverse Contractor https://gleasonator.com/objects/4dff2168-1793-4dbf-a6df-c536be98b379
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Hunter S. Bloomfer (bloomfer@coolsite.win)'s status on Sunday, 05-Mar-2023 01:31:43 JST Hunter S. Bloomfer He should have spent some time planning it and not just shit the bridge out making the fediverse worse for everyone In conversation permalink -
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:loading: (sui@chudbuds.lol)'s status on Sunday, 05-Mar-2023 01:40:04 JST :loading: So this point you’re making is dumb. It was your point, you dumbfuck, and it failed.
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 05-Mar-2023 02:41:33 JST Fediverse Contractor Nostr itself has nothing to do with blockchain. It’s just that a lot of cryptards use it. In conversation permalink -
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Archivist (thewanax@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 05-Mar-2023 02:41:34 JST Archivist @chudbere @Sir_Ivissia @bot I could be totally wrong, but from what I'm reading in the comments, it sounds like the hosting on the blockchain (Maybe?) is just holding a link to another website. In that case it is like most NFTs, where you actually only buy a link to another website that takes you to the picture you own. Apparently with nfts, and maybe this, most of the stuff is hosted off the blockchain because it's too expensive to load that much data on the blockchain. In conversation permalink -
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Derek (derek@gorf.pub)'s status on Sunday, 05-Mar-2023 07:17:46 JST Derek @bot @Sui @Sir_Ivissia @chudbere Nostr is much more centralizing by design. Fewer and much, much larger relays that eventually only rich faggots like jack and elon will be able to run.
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 05-Mar-2023 07:17:46 JST Fediverse Contractor The opposite is true. In conversation permalink -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 05-Mar-2023 07:20:52 JST Fediverse Contractor Maybe, but the design leads to a completely fractured network. It’s a dud, fedi is over. In conversation permalink -
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Derek (derek@gorf.pub)'s status on Sunday, 05-Mar-2023 07:20:53 JST Derek @bot @Sir_Ivissia @Sui @chudbere Wrong. with activitypub every instance is a relay.
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Derek (derek@gorf.pub)'s status on Sunday, 05-Mar-2023 07:30:26 JST Derek @bot @Sir_Ivissia @Sui @chudbere I don’t understand what you are saying. When you say fedi you mean activitypub? Activitypub is over? Nostr will just turn into twitter 2.0 run by the same faggots. you will have the illusion of freedom because there will be a couple dozen nodes but all will be coopted and ones that aren’t will be blocked from network.
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 05-Mar-2023 07:30:26 JST Fediverse Contractor A relay can’t be “blocked from the network”. These aren’t instances communicating with one another. I do think there’ll be like tranny relays that segregate themselves though, but that’s irrelevant, and anyone that uses one can still communicate with the rest of the network if they want. In conversation permalink -
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shrimps! (animeirl@shitposter.club)'s status on Sunday, 05-Mar-2023 07:32:41 JST shrimps! so just like fedi In conversation permalink :loading: likes this. -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 05-Mar-2023 07:50:01 JST Fediverse Contractor There are two jannies between you and I rn. On nostr there’s one, and not even really one since they can’t unilaterally ban me from the network. In conversation permalink -
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Derek (derek@gorf.pub)'s status on Sunday, 05-Mar-2023 07:50:02 JST Derek @bot @Sir_Ivissia @Sui @chudbere a node can block anyone they want and users can determine which nodes to use. it will make no difference in shunnings, which I am fine with. My problem is that all data goes through nodes and then to users instead of directly from instane to instance.
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 05-Mar-2023 07:51:23 JST Fediverse Contractor In the sense that trannies always wall themselves off from criticism so they don’t 41%? Yes. In conversation permalink -
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Derek (derek@gorf.pub)'s status on Sunday, 05-Mar-2023 07:52:24 JST Derek In conversation permalink Attachments
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 05-Mar-2023 07:52:24 JST Fediverse Contractor Right, the network infested with pedophiles definitely doesn’t glow. In conversation permalink -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 05-Mar-2023 07:58:48 JST Fediverse Contractor Lmao it’s absolutely not wrong, it’s just that you are your own janny in this case. In conversation permalink -
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Derek (derek@gorf.pub)'s status on Sunday, 05-Mar-2023 07:58:49 JST Derek @bot @Sir_Ivissia @Sui @chudbere Wrong. Our posts are exchanged directly from instance to instance.
Anyway, if you want to see the actual future of social, imho, check out https://gorf.social/ We will hopefully have activitypub and Nostr by end of the month and, much more importantly, RSS next week - inbound and outbound. Built to be totally agnostic, we can add any protocol that comes along seamlessly.
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 05-Mar-2023 08:00:17 JST Fediverse Contractor Nostr relays are actually much lighter and easier to run than instances, and nostr isn’t a fractured pedophile shithole like fedi is. In conversation permalink -
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Chumchum Tumtum (fcktheworld587@social.linux.pizza)'s status on Sunday, 05-Mar-2023 08:00:18 JST Chumchum Tumtum @animeirl @derek @bot no, it's better than fedi because it uses way more resources to accomplish essentially the same thing, and is backed by billionaires
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 05-Mar-2023 08:02:15 JST Fediverse Contractor You’re literally pulling the crypto “few understand” bs *again*. Explain in clear terms how I’m wrong or shut up sir. In conversation permalink -
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shrimps! (animeirl@shitposter.club)'s status on Sunday, 05-Mar-2023 08:02:16 JST shrimps! you dont understand how any of this stuff works. you sound like a bitcoin cultist rn In conversation permalink -
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shrimps! (animeirl@shitposter.club)'s status on Sunday, 05-Mar-2023 08:02:50 JST shrimps! I already have, many times In conversation permalink -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 05-Mar-2023 08:02:50 JST Fediverse Contractor You keep repeating that lie too. In conversation permalink -
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shrimps! (animeirl@shitposter.club)'s status on Sunday, 05-Mar-2023 08:04:00 JST shrimps! it's not a lie you're just too lazy and ignorant to understand In conversation permalink -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 05-Mar-2023 08:04:00 JST Fediverse Contractor Here we go, another dishonest bad actor from spc. In conversation permalink -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 05-Mar-2023 08:05:43 JST Fediverse Contractor Although it’s cool that yours supports both. Soapbox doesn’t (yet). In conversation permalink -
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shrimps! (animeirl@shitposter.club)'s status on Sunday, 05-Mar-2023 08:07:03 JST shrimps! go post on nostr than and stop posting here In conversation permalink -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 05-Mar-2023 08:07:03 JST Fediverse Contractor You’re the one in my mentions troon. In conversation permalink -
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shrimps! (animeirl@shitposter.club)'s status on Sunday, 05-Mar-2023 08:09:39 JST shrimps! you're the one still posting on fedi In conversation permalink -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 05-Mar-2023 08:09:39 JST Fediverse Contractor Yep, dunking on retards is my passion. In conversation permalink -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 05-Mar-2023 08:10:49 JST Fediverse Contractor Shouldn’t you be dilating rn? In conversation permalink -
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shrimps! (animeirl@shitposter.club)'s status on Sunday, 05-Mar-2023 08:10:50 JST shrimps! then why are you still so bad at it? In conversation permalink -
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book (book@sneed.social)'s status on Monday, 06-Mar-2023 07:45:14 JST book @derek @Sir_Ivissia @Sui @chudbere @bot
>Activitypub is over?
Yeah.
>Nostr will just turn into twitter 2.0 run by the same faggots.
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Monday, 06-Mar-2023 07:55:29 JST Fediverse Contractor There’s already a nip to share your relay list across the network so this centralisation argument you’ve been making is non existent. In conversation permalink -
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Derek (derek@gorf.pub)'s status on Monday, 06-Mar-2023 07:55:30 JST Derek @book @Sir_Ivissia @Sui @bot @chudbere Twitter was the largest network in the world and Jack is back. The only way to banish pedos is centralization. chose your fighter and stop chasing the next thing. anyone with any common sense can see what nostr is and will be.
jack didn’t ban pedos but he did ban notsees.
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verita84 :Debian_logo: :firefox: :bing: :android: (verita84@poster.place)'s status on Monday, 06-Mar-2023 07:58:59 JST verita84 :Debian_logo: :firefox: :bing: :android: @bot @Sir_Ivissia @Sui @chudbere @derek @book
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Monday, 06-Mar-2023 07:58:59 JST Fediverse Contractor True, but otoh you can literally copy paste a link to an image hosted anywhere and it works. In conversation permalink -
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Derek (derek@gorf.pub)'s status on Monday, 06-Mar-2023 09:33:44 JST Derek @book @Sir_Ivissia @Sui @bot @chudbere not right now but once the cool nodes require $20K/month or more he will reveal his true self, which he has already showed the world i might remind you.
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book (book@sneed.social)'s status on Monday, 06-Mar-2023 09:33:44 JST book @derek @Sir_Ivissia @Sui @chudbere @bot
We'll just go to a new web zone and exploit that developer's free labor until he tries to monetize or centralize it. We have done this many times before and become exceedingly good at it.In conversation permalink Attachments
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book (book@sneed.social)'s status on Monday, 06-Mar-2023 09:33:45 JST book @derek @Sir_Ivissia @Sui @chudbere @bot
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Monday, 06-Mar-2023 09:34:39 JST Fediverse Contractor @verita84 runs a relay. Does that seem realistic verita? In conversation permalink
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