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Kevin Davidson (metalsamurai@mas.to)'s status on Sunday, 26-Feb-2023 13:30:50 JST Kevin Davidson
@sashafox @dalias @sam @atomicpoet @fediversenews Their current scheme relies on common dictionary words that might legitimately be present in a bio and then allow any random internet user to opt them in.
Something else, such as choosing to follow a trigger account is more intentional and harder to spoof.

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  Kevin Davidson (metalsamurai@mas.to)'s status on Sunday, 26-Feb-2023 13:31:25 JST Kevin Davidson
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  @sashafox @dalias @sam @atomicpoet @fediversenews What happens when @MothLover123 “I run the world’s biggest searchable index of moth wings!” is “opted in” by @CreepyStalker456? Do they get a notification?
  Much cleaner if @IndexMeNowBaby has to follow @RifleThroughMyToots
  
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  Kevin Davidson (metalsamurai@mas.to)'s status on Sunday, 26-Feb-2023 13:31:37 JST Kevin Davidson
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  @sashafox @dalias @sam @atomicpoet @fediversenews Also there are nearly 10mn Mastodon users (plus probably dozens and dozens of Pleroma/Friendica/Wildebeest users). The odds of @BrassInstrumentCollector987 not having “Known as the Tootfinder General to my friends” in their bio is non zero. This whole scheme is flawed.
  
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  Kevin Davidson (metalsamurai@mas.to)'s status on Sunday, 26-Feb-2023 13:31:38 JST Kevin Davidson
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  @sashafox @dalias @sam @atomicpoet @fediversenews (the same goes for @MyCatTypesForMe not having flurj +£magic in their bio)
  
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  Codex ☯️♈☮ (codexarcanum@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 26-Feb-2023 13:31:52 JST Codex ☯️♈☮
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  @sashafox @dalias @sam @atomicpoet @fediversenews
  Probably should be reiterated any time these threads get too deep into the rabbit hole is that creeps and stalkers don't ask and don't respect any system of opting in or out. If they can see your posts, they can and will index them.
  Any argument that relies on "what would a stalker do" is flawed. They won't do anything you expect of them, they don't ask.
  
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  Kevin Davidson (metalsamurai@mas.to)'s status on Sunday, 26-Feb-2023 13:31:58 JST Kevin Davidson
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  @CodexArcanum @sashafox @dalias @sam @atomicpoet @fediversenews I am using hyperbole to highlight deficiencies in this particular “opt in” scheme.
  Obviously Google exists and does not honour any such opt in/out mechanism.
  
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  Kevin Davidson (metalsamurai@mas.to)'s status on Sunday, 26-Feb-2023 13:32:02 JST Kevin Davidson
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  @CodexArcanum @sashafox @dalias @sam @atomicpoet @fediversenews Also, consider @ForgetfulUser123 wants their posts indexed by @EthicalMemoryIndexer99 and sacrifices some characters in their bio to put in the magic sequence, but @FratBoyTrollXX enters their username for @SketchyMarketingDB. The CEO of Sketchy can insist that all the usual checks were made and Forgetful loved the attention, but forgot.
  
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  Simon Lucy (simon_lucy@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 26-Feb-2023 13:32:04 JST Simon Lucy
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  @CodexArcanum @MetalSamurai @sashafox @dalias @sam @atomicpoet @fediversenews
  So there should be no local feed and no global feed?
  
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  Codex ☯️♈☮ (codexarcanum@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 26-Feb-2023 13:32:24 JST Codex ☯️♈☮
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  That's not what I'm saying, can't speak for others. Fediblocks work. I'm not saying that every CHUDs homebrewed stalker-search is as good as a big centralized public search hub. A search tool for general use does need to respect privacy and requests for removing items, so that it doesnt become a tool for generalized harassment.
  This is like the gun control debate. You *cannot* prevent all illegal guns, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't regulate them.
  
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  Simon Lucy (simon_lucy@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 26-Feb-2023 13:33:20 JST Simon Lucy
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  You want a sieve with narrower holes?
  In many ways a narrower index will be more biased or partial and in the end more harmful than just a general full text index of public content.
  
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