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   チャノさん (japananon@pl.anon-kenkai.com)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Aug-2022 11:59:41 JST チャノさん

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   @ehhh @lichelordgodfrey Lord knows, I've tried. The apathy is palpable. It really will have to be an "everything is on fire" crisis before anybody takes notice.
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     Lichelord Godfrey (lichelordgodfrey@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Aug-2022 11:59:42 JST Lichelord Godfrey
     Pixiv.net (Japanese deviantart, ranging from shit-tastic to amazing, utterly degenerate to completely wholesome, art) bent the knee.
     
     twitter.com/pixiv_corp/status/1564138384049590277
     archive.ph/bqnjY
     
     nitter.poast.org/pixiv_corp/status/1564138384049590277#m
     
     Original, machine translation, and... a better, human-translated version of the document.
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     Hannah ? (ehhh@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Aug-2022 11:59:42 JST Hannah ?

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     @lichelordgodfrey @JapanAnon shit like this is why it's good to start promoting decentralized software and free tech to the japanese audience. personally i don't think they'll care unless it gets REALLY bad or until it's too late. pixiv frens should find a backup if the website starts censoring art and the alike
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     チャノさん (japananon@pl.anon-kenkai.com)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Aug-2022 12:11:00 JST チャノさん

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     @Giganova8 @ehhh @lichelordgodfrey At this point I've taken the Darwinian approach. Anybody smart enough to see shit coming has already made or is making preparations. Everybody else deserves the ditch they die in.
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     Giganova8 :sob2: :nacho_love: (giganova8@varishangout.net)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Aug-2022 12:11:01 JST Giganova8 :sob2: :nacho_love:

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     @JapanAnon @ehhh @lichelordgodfrey
     I'm convinced that nothing ever gets better anymore. The last time I can recall a major site exodus as the result of asinine policy was, ironically, the Digg->Reddit shift (and maybe the 4chan/8chan schism, but idk if that counts). These days, people just shrug and plod along until it affects them personally, at which point the majority just give up thanks to learned helplessness at every level of society.
     
     Used to be when a site was fucked up by jannies, alternatives would be up in a matter of days. Now you're lucky if you EVER get an alternative. :gura_pain:
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     チャノさん (japananon@pl.anon-kenkai.com)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Aug-2022 12:14:04 JST チャノさん

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     @Giganova8 @ehhh @lichelordgodfrey ..though with the caveat that anybody who wants out but doesn't know how or isn't able gets a hand up.
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     チャノさん (japananon@pl.anon-kenkai.com)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Aug-2022 12:40:28 JST チャノさん

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     @ehhh @lichelordgodfrey @nozaki @Giganova8 A balance between self-hosting for those who can and larger multi-user instances for those who can't seems like the wisest strategy.
     
     I think it would be important for the latter instances to make the effort to teach their users about the possibility and benefits of self-hosting, so they drive decreased dependency over time.
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     Giganova8 :sob2: :nacho_love: (giganova8@varishangout.net)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Aug-2022 12:40:29 JST Giganova8 :sob2: :nacho_love:

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     @ehhh @JapanAnon @lichelordgodfrey
     The problem is that none of these are real replacements though. It's great they're moving, but all of the sites I've seen thus far are replacements for things like Twitter. Having to track down artists individually and then sift through a sea of social media posts to get to the actual content, all without tags or a search function, is a massive downgrade. But nobody wants to run an alternative site, because "that's hard" or "that's expensive". Which is ironic, given that hosting these days is probably cheaper and easier than ever before. :yuudachi_tired:
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     Hannah ? (ehhh@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Aug-2022 12:40:29 JST Hannah ?

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     @Giganova8 @JapanAnon @lichelordgodfrey pixelfed might be better, then. I don't use it myself, but there are probably free instances that don't require self-host. @nozaki uses it.
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     Hannah ? (ehhh@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Aug-2022 12:40:30 JST Hannah ?

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     @Giganova8 @JapanAnon @lichelordgodfrey That's because we're ditching web 2.0 and moving on to web 3.0, where instead of relying on jumping on different tech giants, we host our own servers and federate them with others. Using existing technology like tor and the blockchain to reinforce ourselves against censorship.
     
     pixelfed is basically decentralized instagram. and artists are already using sites like mastodon.art, baraag.net, and pawoo.net (NO LONGER HOSTED BY PIXIV)
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     Giganova8 :sob2: :nacho_love: (giganova8@varishangout.net)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Aug-2022 22:34:04 JST Giganova8 :sob2: :nacho_love:

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     @Vosgy @JapanAnon @ehhh @lichelordgodfrey Which is exactly why I hate the stupid niggers who bitch about “PiRaCy HuRtS SaLeS :retard: “. If that were true, then why is it that GOG, who strictly have zero DRM on the games they distribute, hasn’t gone out of business? Hell, I know for a fact that something like two thirds of the games I own I wouldn’t have bought without pirating them first.

     The uncomfortable truth driving that piece of propaganda is twofold:

     1. Pirated media cannot be censored by authorities or “hosting services”, meaning that “problematic content” can’t be controlled.

     And 2. Piracy only hurts the sale of mediocre media. This is why so many of the creators who are the loudest about piracy are often the dregs of their respective fields. Yeah, I’m sure you’re pissed that people can’t be forced into wasting money on your shitty cashgrab, what a tragedy. :hana_disgust2:

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     Vosgy (vosgy@varishangout.net)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Aug-2022 22:34:10 JST Vosgy

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     @Giganova8 @ehhh @JapanAnon @lichelordgodfrey
     Most things I'm into know was due to piracy>
     Games we pirated as kids as we had no money.
     Anime I pirated as a teen as there was no access to it here and I had no money.
     Even the music I listen to and buy these days I mostly heard first playing games like Step Mania and the pirated music catalog that came with that.
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     Giganova8 :sob2: :nacho_love: (giganova8@varishangout.net)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Aug-2022 22:34:11 JST Giganova8 :sob2: :nacho_love:

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     @ehhh @JapanAnon @lichelordgodfrey
     I sort of agree, on the contingency that the artist needs to make it clear where exactly their fans should go if they do choose to take their art down. Which is why I hate the DMCA, it's a sledgehammer where a scalpel would be better suited. Instead of just deleting a post and telling me to fuck off, tell me where you want me to find your art, cause otherwise I'll just assume you're one of those dipshits who hate their fans. ?
     
     Also this leads to fragmentation, which leads to fewer viewers, which leads to less money and less exposure for the artist. So breaking up boorus because you don't want people reposting art is self-defeating, because they're not gonna find your art anymore. :cirno_shrug:
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     Hannah ? (ehhh@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Aug-2022 22:34:12 JST Hannah ?

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     @Giganova8 @JapanAnon @lichelordgodfrey I'm not necessarily against that, I believe artists should choose who can host their works publicly. They created it, after all.
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     Hannah ? (ehhh@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Aug-2022 22:34:13 JST Hannah ?

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     @Giganova8 @JapanAnon @lichelordgodfrey that's what boorus are for
     
     i know a lot of artists that like to delete older stuff on their pixiv, of their own volition
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     Giganova8 :sob2: :nacho_love: (giganova8@varishangout.net)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Aug-2022 22:34:13 JST Giganova8 :sob2: :nacho_love:

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     @ehhh @JapanAnon @lichelordgodfrey
     Yeah, but boorus are just a temporary solution. Danbooru's paywall and Sankaku's massive data loss a few months ago should show that these sites are not resilient and not trustworthy. And that's without even getting into them complying with DMCA bullshit. Sankaku will yeet an artist's whole catalog after a single email, instead of at least doing the "pirate site" thing and forcing them to file individual claims against each post.
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     Giganova8 :sob2: :nacho_love: (giganova8@varishangout.net)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Aug-2022 22:34:14 JST Giganova8 :sob2: :nacho_love:

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     @JapanAnon @ehhh @lichelordgodfrey
     Yeah, but that approach tends to take a lot of good content with it, especially older stuff, or stuff where the creator isn't around anymore.
     
     I personally think it's gonna take some full-blown mass outages from some censor attempt gone wrong before we see changes. I'm really hoping the keffals insanity gets Cloudflare to do something stupid and sets off a revitalization of decentralized websites. Piracy is making a comeback thanks to dipshit streaming companies, so I'm hoping the same will happen here. :holo_impatient:
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     寮 (ryo@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Aug-2022 22:35:19 JST 寮

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     @Giganova8 @JapanAnon @ehhh @lichelordgodfrey @Vosgy
     > Piracy only hurts the sale of mediocre media.
     
     EXACTLY!!
     If the boomers are so concerned about piracy, then maybe something's wrong with the product they're trying to sell, IIIIIIIISN'T IT??