@atomicpoet @FeralRobots
We agree on this principle - which is why it will be a disaster if Zuckerberg is allowed to take over this protocol and its network. But we can route around this damage by blocking him
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ophiocephalic ๐ (ophiocephalic@kolektiva.social)'s status on Saturday, 27-May-2023 08:04:33 JST ophiocephalic ๐
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ophiocephalic ๐ (ophiocephalic@kolektiva.social)'s status on Saturday, 27-May-2023 07:50:43 JST ophiocephalic ๐
@FeralRobots @atomicpoet
Except that I have yet to see any tangible explanation of how exactly it would happen that assimilation into the Zuckerberg surveillance system will somehow result in people migrating to the fediverse -
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ophiocephalic ๐ (ophiocephalic@kolektiva.social)'s status on Saturday, 27-May-2023 07:17:19 JST ophiocephalic ๐
@atomicpoet
The pro-Zuck contingent isn't paying attention to the intensity of our determination to avoid being assimilated by the borg. It's ironic, because said contingent seems to be mostly concerned with numbers, metrics, "growth". What we are concerned with is community, freedom and survival.Another thing I'll point out in response to your curt dismissal. One can detect a certain demographic slant to the pro-Zuck crowd. I won't kick the hornet's nest any harder than that, except to note that ppl in marginalized communities have the most to lose in a Meta takeover and are the most adamant about opting out of it. Something to keep in mind as you wave off this perspective as insignificant
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ophiocephalic ๐ (ophiocephalic@kolektiva.social)'s status on Saturday, 27-May-2023 07:12:17 JST ophiocephalic ๐
@atomicpoet
Respectfully, I don't think this is a clear view of the situation. The power dynamic is much, much more asymmetrical than this would suggest. Unless we stand together in opposition, ActivityPub is about to become Zuckerberg's private property -
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ophiocephalic ๐ (ophiocephalic@kolektiva.social)'s status on Saturday, 27-May-2023 06:43:38 JST ophiocephalic ๐
@atomicpoet
"So Barcelona is coming. We need to brace for impact. And we need to be strategic in our response."In that case, what is also coming is a schism. Then there will be a #FreeFediverse which carries on the banner of independence and decentralization, and a #FacebookFediverse which acquiesces to being recentralized and data-mined.
None of these other examples you cite comes remotely close to the gravity of a Zuckerberg takeover. The historical example to point to is not Medium or Vivaldi, it's Gab
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ophiocephalic ๐ (ophiocephalic@kolektiva.social)'s status on Saturday, 27-May-2023 06:37:59 JST ophiocephalic ๐
@atomicpoet
But a Meta takeover won't result in the fediverse replacing it, it will result in the fediverse being replaced by Big Social -
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ophiocephalic ๐ (ophiocephalic@kolektiva.social)'s status on Saturday, 27-May-2023 03:17:13 JST ophiocephalic ๐
@atomicpoet
"The most critical problem is that Meta users need to migrate away from Meta-owned social networks"Disagree. No one appointed us to be the saviors of the lost souls of Meta. The fediverse should collectively be concerned with its own survival. And individually, many of us are concerned with the integrity of our own communications, which we refuse to allow Zuckerberg to assimilate for surveillance and AI ingestion.
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ophiocephalic ๐ (ophiocephalic@kolektiva.social)'s status on Friday, 26-May-2023 18:19:27 JST ophiocephalic ๐
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Suggestion that the practical means of not being Meta is not allowing the fediverse to be absorbed by them.And why do you think Barcelona would be designed in a way which allows its users to migrate away? Everything he's ever built previously did the opposite of that, and trapped everyone inside
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ophiocephalic ๐ (ophiocephalic@kolektiva.social)'s status on Friday, 19-May-2023 13:06:02 JST ophiocephalic ๐
@atomicpoet
Genuinely surprised to learn that the film Manos The Hands of Fate has spawned a tie-in franchise