Notices by Thomas Depierre (di4na@hachyderm.io), page 2

@lispi314 Because I have seen them consistently miss the point so long that they lost their seat at the table. They will get it again when they show they understand what I said above :D

Yes, liberating the last 23% is a fight I can support, and I can understand the importance of it.

But also, we are not revolutionaries anymore. We are the ones in control now.

The balance between maintenance and activism probably needs to shift a bit.

The dog caught the car. And what do we do now?

Well, I finally have data to back my model of the software world out there. And the data is relatively solid and shows what I keep saying.

You are all on our turf now. Please accept that you have no idea what you are talking about. Sit down. Listen. Ask questions.

But respect our work. We are trying to keep the world running, 1h per month.

https://www.softwaremaxims.com/blog/open-source-hobbyists-turf

Thanks to @tidelift and Synopys for doing the research and publishing it btw, they have been some of the few people actually trying to listen and figure out the space, instead of just dropping "aid" from above.

@tidelift Oh and btw, if you want to post it to your link aggregators, feel free. I am too tired to do it tonight. And I got a headache. I overdraft my own maintainer's schedule by a few hours to get this over the line.

@clacke @smxi that is true of nearly all of them. So yep

@clacke @smxi And that makes a tall step from zero to being able to take money in. A step that cannot be met easily by a few companies wanting a cheap vendor support.

@clacke @smxi I mean the problem is also on the other side.

As a maintainer, i cannot take that supplier posture except if i have a quite high and stable income.

I need at least 80% of my salary income coming from it in a stable way before i can spend more time on it. Paying me does not help under that.

Because I cannot find the time. I have a job. Family. Pets. A house. Friends. Hobbies.

I cannot cut them sustainably. The only thing that can be cut is my work. And it is inflexible

@clacke @smxi It is not discussed a lot because it mostly does not work.

The most obvious aspect is that they use open source precisely to avoid having to deal with the legal and procurement journey because it is slow and painful, and no one wants to talk to procurement.

The less obvious fact is that you cannot sustainably maintain most of these projects this way. You cannot get a vendor for long. And you cannot hardfork them, because maintaining them necessitate an expertise you cannot hire

@smxi I would point out that I am not asking for money.

I am stating the reality. I doubt money will help that much or that it could be sustainable.

What I am saying is that you cannot make me a supplier and you need to accept that. Stop bending the world to your view. Accept it as it is and find out what to do from there.

Also. I am definitely not someone that would advise to focus on Free vs Open.

@hazelweakly yep it is so sad in a way because like

I am even trying to make them all better capitalists. They will make more money. I can show it

But deep down... It is not money they want. It is the illusion of control and power.

@brainwane @luis_in_brief @glyph @geofft @diazona @eb yep i never published my own review because of that. The Road and Bridges report was great. The book felt like a massive PR piece for GitHub sponsor feature and a way to hide the problem.

@phiofx i would argue that you are probably inverting cause and effect.

It worked because there was tons of money that needed to *go somewhere*. So the financial industry created new product. Or more precisely, we could say they always tried but it only worked this time because there was so much money needing something to buy that everything stayed alive in these products.

Boomers are numerous. They use 401k. Tons of money go to buying shares. They buy 90% of all of them and never sell.

This is our reality. We rarely talk about it but it is. Not super rich. Your parents. Aunt. Old lady May down the road.

So share price globally always go up. Have always. For 30 years.

Which means middle management results have been wholly unlinked to their performance evaluation for 30 years.

No wonder our corps are totally unmoored from reality.

@jasongorman I may have been writing about this stuff a bit lately... https://hachyderm.io/@Di4na/110431524694102577

As a maintainer of OpenSource libraries and packages, there is something that kept feeling off in the whole Software Supply Chain discourse. I think this comes down to something simple.

I am not a Supplier.
You can read more explanation there https://www.softwaremaxims.com/blog/not-a-supplier

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