@liaizon@serapath@cryptix Between a long string of random characters including random numbers and symbols, and a sentence with some meaning, I think I could remember the sentence (or even a sequence of words) better. No?
@band@mike_hales I'm late to this party, but @lynnfoster has been reading David Harvey and I'll ask if we want to read this together and comment back here. Leaving a bookmark here to return.
@ntnsndr@GuerillaOntologist > why are we on the fediverse right now? Should we give up on any technology that involves some early-adopter friction?
Part 1 of 2: I think the principle contradiction now (if you go along with that term) is the capitalist economic system. It is behind all of the other oppressive contradictions.
So I think we need to organize a better economic system that will need to start with local experiments that join together.
@mike_hales ok if I respond to @band on this question? You can disagree later.
> why is entering into a contract and special language space?
It's not if all you want to do is use plain text. If you want your contract to be recorded by computers and made operational and the resources tracked and be accounted for, then it helps to use a somewhat formatted language. @bernini 's Smart Sentences make that easier. Or you can re-enter everything...
@mike_hales Thanks for adding those other people. And making the conversation public. I wanted to give you a chance to go private if you wanted. I don't care for myself.
@mike_hales Conversations for action can be (and often are) conducted purely by humans, or even more often via email or chat messages. It's a protocol (in the sense of a set of rules for engagement) that can be followed in many ways. If an economic engagement between people and their organizations fits that frame, it will most like use some variation on conversations for action.
@mike_hales That all makes sense to me but is more complicated than we will do it. I'm looking for a document describing the combination of conversational and formatted economic statements that we have in mind, but my new computer can't access it yet, so after breakfast.... @ckohtala@lynnfoster@band
This is a new thread about the human relationships coordinating resource flows in economic networks.
One angle I have observed, back from my work for Choreology around 2000 (this is one of the few signs that it ever existed: http://xml.coverpages.org/CohesionsV10-Announce.html ) is that coordinated networks of all kinds seem to need a coordinator. Somebody who responds to all participants in a decision thread leading to consensus.
And to finish that last thought for now, the coordinator role could be very temporary. Could be re-assigned in the midst of a decision thread, if need be. But there was always a coordinator who asked all of the other participants if they agreed or not and announced the decision (or failure to decide).
One network we have been working with lately is https://www.newyorktextilelab.com/ in the Hudson River valley between New York state and New England. Laura Sansone seen down that page is the coordinator of the network. She and her partner Evan drove around in their pickup hauling wool, yarn, and knitted and woven textiles around the valley from one stage in the textile flows to another.
The main roles in the network are farmer, wool cleaner, spinner, weaver or knitter, and the garment designer (who is usually the coordinator of all the other processes).
Laura wants to get the other textile designers to coordinate their own flows.
We're helping them to coordinate a software development team to help all that textile coordination to work.
Old, very old...in the background of my avatar, you can see the exact middle of nowhere. (I had copied some political slogans from fedi campaigns I supported. I still support them, but the slogans may have lost their context, so I deleted them. May add more as they appeal to me. In general, I am anti-capitalist, pro-woke, and think Fedi can help organize a better economic system.)