@kees@jmorris I wouldn't discount bsky yet -- it's a more promising protocol than activitypub. I expect that, at some point, there will be bridging between the two.
- vger.kernel.org delivers about 4.5 million messages per day - 70% of that is linux-kernel@vger, with about 3.2 million messages delivered per day - a very remote second is netdev@vger (300,000 messages delivered per day) - even a more remote third is kvm@vger (133,000 messages delivered per day)
Current migration stats:
Out of the total of 203 public vger lists:
- 48 lists will be sunset (due to obsolescence/inactivity) - 40 lists are already migrated to new infra - 115 still reside on legacy infra
The 40 migrated lists are about 788,000 messages daily, or ~20% of all traffic, so 80% of all mail traffic is still going through the legacy infra.
I hope to complete all migrations by this holiday season.
@ioletsgo ignoring the blatant ageism, this person knew how to take a screenshot of their system info view, google for Linux kernel, find the email, attach the right screenshot, and send that in. They are tech-savvy, just not quite to the right depth.
I'm not saying "GitHub is bad" or "don't use GitHub" -- it's a great platform and if it solves your problem, totally go ahead and use it. I'm just saying that it's a business and at some point someone is going to crunch some numbers and say "hey, these guys are popular and it would be nice if they brought in more revenue," and this is how enshittification starts.
@vkoul no, that's a whole separate infrastructure. The reason behind moving vger is because it's an outlier in the kernel.org domain space that really should be maintained alongside other kernel.org hosts. The same logic doesn't apply to lists hosted on other domains.
Embed this noticeK. Ryabitsev ???? (monsieuricon@social.kernel.org)'s status on Sunday, 07-May-2023 03:41:32 JST
K. Ryabitsev ????After a few starts and stops over the past few years, we have finally started migrating lists from the venerable vger system running on majordomo+zmailer onto a more modern stack (mlmmj+postfix). We're doing it list by list to reduce disruption and make sure that the new setup is able to take the load, but the hope is to complete the migration over the next few months and finally put the old vger to rest.
Thus far, we have migrated netdev and bpf and things are looking good and stable. We'll give it a week or two to make sure we don't hit any weird corner cases and then get going with others.
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