@feld truly is crazy though isn't it? I am pretty sure I can make mine smaller I just have not spent more time with it. I did that 2 weeks ago and it still stuns me that I am about 1/3 the size.
@lain When I was first dating my wife, I would tell her want to get some "hot coffee" was at least a year before she made the real connection as we actually went and got coffee as the ruse.
With any luck my observations and readings aligning with other data means we may have some answers to the spinning fish.
Doesn’t mean solutions are anywhere near just means we know what it is. More to come but it’s possible it’s close.
If that’s true, as the usual method of science. Citizen science is the most important. Never feel like you can’t make a difference when you see your backyard go sideways. When you know say something.
@sun@mushroom_soup Next time we hang out I’ll have to show you the big one. It’s massive and amazing detail of coins, drawings, former empires all that. It’s like a bible and history book combined.
@tk I would say sharks do, they are very intelligent. They would recognize me and come say hi and not other people. Follow me around like a dog and stuff. I think that is not just a mistake.
1) It appeared before the lake O Discharge. 2) The extensive bleaching and heat last summer did not cause this. I have documentation before that crisis. That is just another problem. 3) The thesis that heat will disrupt it you may or may not see from some experts? That is not likely, I recorded 36.1c last year and that was not enough to take it out. The known science says its stops growing at 35.1 that is all. 4) The spinning fish is not related to pharmaceuticals or chemicals of any form. This can be evidenced by the studies on this and we have never seen this behavior before.
So to recap, the issue we are seeing here is a first on the planet. The parasite affecting the fish in freshwater is different with the salmon and trout. That causes spinal deformities we we are not seeing here. The fish appear perfectly healthy and no damage. That is what is odd too. The spinning and out of control ramming into things like the bottom causes damage on them nothing more.
The idea that it was successful recruitment year may be a thing however it has been with us for over a year now. Unless it goes away in short order forever then its likely here. Gambierdiscus is known to colonize denuded coral and be in symbiosis with many bacteria that have yet to be shown. That bacteria is not harmful as far as I know it just fuels it.
This is all crazy shit that no one has answers to of course. The only data shows that gambierdiscus is elevated so that is the line of thinking. However it has not been proven in a lab yet. That is the largest issue that must be overcome at this point is to do the following.
1) grow it in a lab in the same conditions. 2) get the fish to spin of the species impacted. 3) stay in ethical boundaries of science.
#3 is the hardest one too given the experiments they have done with fish in the past causing this kind of trauma is a very ethical line. So it can get very dicey if they are breaking rules in that itself. Consider these things and it gets very very hard to solve to deliberately harm fish.