Notices by robryk@qoto.org, page 2

@freemo Ah, then it's quite likely that it was indeed before then. I'll then notify you again if it reoccurs, and otherwise will assume this was a result of the issue at that time.

@freemo

> Is it possible you voted on it back when things were still broken?

Unlikely, given that the poll started 3d ago (according to its timestamp).

(If it's in any way helpful, earlier polls on which the same thing happened to me: https://social.jvns.ca/@b0rk/112014805256252757 which started 5d ago, https://mastodon.social/@danluu/111994437263038931 which started on Feb 25th.)

@freemo

This also seems like evidence for lack of quality control of the actual ingredients (in particular, how much of them are in there).

@seedyh @LouisIngenthron @peterdrake @freemo

Also, my own post does not appear in my home timeline (or rather, appears but then disappears upon refresh). That suggests something is still broken, and that we're not dealing just with an aftereffect of something.

@seedyh @LouisIngenthron @peterdrake @freemo

Same thing is happening for me. My home timeline has exactly two posts, both from ~1day ago.

@freemo

People use (I don't know how successfully) gravimetric anomalies to supplement inertial navigation underwater (in a similar mode to those early car navigation systems that could never locate you, but would use their knowledge of how the roads look like to correct dead reckoning). I wonder if this could be used in a similar way.

@freemo

Mechanical compasses of that sort are more complicated, at least because you need a vertical reference and a gimbal with 2 degrees of freedom.

Also, that's not very accurate if you don't know your longitude: the isolines of vertical strength are amusingly curvy: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4c/World_Magnetic_Inclination_2020.pdf

BTW I wonder how many sports trackers use the magnetic field to simplify their motion tracking, and then work very differently sufficiently far north or sufficiently close to the equator. (E.g. for breaststroke in swimming pools oriented east-west in Switzerland keeping a running average of the magnetic field direction at wrist is a more reliable way of counting lengths than what Garmin was doing up until something like 1-2 years ago)

@freemo Does this cause you to also automatically trust new company keys signed by that key (but not keys signed by them in turn)?

@freemo What kind of wild animals would you say have lots of variation?

@freemo

You might wish to know that UK has a similar attitude to anything with a blade.

@freemo @realcaseyrollins

But then what would you use as evidence of lack of intent in people who you wouldn't expect to blab so much?

@freemo @realcaseyrollins

What do you mean by demonstrated intent? (I assume something like observed effects compared to your estimation of other effects he could have achieved.)

@freemo @realcaseyrollins

I don't know how to divine intent of people I can't talk with (or that talk in a way I find sufficiently alien). How would you do that?

@freemo @realcaseyrollins

Hm~ I'm curious what you'd think about the pilots from that sketch then (I understand that it's sufficiently out-of-context that it might be hard to extrapolate there or back, but I'm still curious).

@freemo @realcaseyrollins

You might enjoy https://yewtu.be/watch?v=XfLdFZ4my9g and it's IMO somewhat relevant ~here: it demonstrates that literal contents of speech is not what is communicated. Sadly this means that unless one assumes good faith of the speaker, one can't really judge what they want to convey other than by looking at what effect it has, lest the estimate be ~easily manipulatable :(

@freemo

Sure, but if there's an open vent in the tank, and there is noticeable sound coming from the vent, then I'd assume that it's at atmospheric pressure and thus can be punctured without much risk (assuming nonsparking tooling and/or long duration venting upside down so that it's unlikely to flash). I wonder whether the warning is trying to warn me of some remainign risk that I don't see or whether it's (overly) simplified.

@freemo

The thing that caused me to wonder now was a shaving cream can, where I could test the pressure inside by deforming it with my fingers first.

I also saw such a warning on camping gas bottles (some mixture of propane and butane), which did have a way of ensuring they're empty provided: there's a plastic shim you can push into the valve to permanently open it (so that you can vent the bottle after you used up the gas). In such cases I don't really see a reason not to amend it to say "don't puncture unless the shim has been inserted for a few minutes".

Why do pressurized cans warn against puncturing them "even if empty"?

@freemo @jenny_wu Taken very literally, "X should be murdered" is not a threat: it's simply a statement about a world you'd prefer to live in. Obviously that approach makes no sense, because then well-understood codes speech becomes a way to skirt around any laws prohibiting threats.

If one tries to include various coded threats, then the statement itself is not enough to detemine whether it's a threat: the whole point of coded speech is to make it easy to read for intended recipients and hard to convincingly convey to others, so it relies on lots of context.

@freemo and presumably on carrying them? (For example in CH access to guns is pretty open, albeit in most cases carries a registration requirement, but carrying them other than to move them between places is mostly illegal.)

Many European people will find what you are saying confusing or misunderstand it. I'd rather phrase it as "unrestricted access and unrestricted carry".