@jenny_wu Threatening people is illegal with or without a court order. If he said "this man should be murdered" then I would agree with you. But "he should rot in hell", no thats not even a threat.
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🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 00:52:15 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 -
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robryk@qoto.org's status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 01:12:03 JST robryk @freemo @jenny_wu Taken very literally, "X should be murdered" is not a threat: it's simply a statement about a world you'd prefer to live in. Obviously that approach makes no sense, because then well-understood codes speech becomes a way to skirt around any laws prohibiting threats.
If one tries to include various coded threats, then the statement itself is not enough to detemine whether it's a threat: the whole point of coded speech is to make it easy to read for intended recipients and hard to convincingly convey to others, so it relies on lots of context.
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🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 01:29:13 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 We already have rules and standards for this. A call to violence is illegal and must meet the following criteria:
(1) the advocacy is directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action, and (2) is likely to incite or produce such action.
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