@raven You're example is harmless enough (assuming other problematic aspects could be mitigated). I mean, artists having been using various techniques to prompt themselves for quite some time. Decks, random words, games, etc.
It's just... That's not how these are being marketed. That's not the problem they claim they are solving. I hope I'm wrong, but I worry we cannot disentangle the harmless (perhaps even helpful!) aspects from the harmful ones in this case.
I don't directly use these "services", but I think about them from time to time because they're going to impact me whether I want to use them or not. I was thinking about "indirect prompt injection" and other means of controlling the input to these things, and I just realized the whole concept as implemented is basically "garbage in" with a dash of "trust me bro" marketing.
We've set these things up so that we don't control all the direct inputs. We don't control nor curate the training input. We don't control nor inspect the implementation. Yet we're expected to hand over decision making and the power to take action?
@cwebber I know this doesn't explain everything, and it's a completely US perspective. But I noticed growing up that we mostly compartmentalize democracy in the US and practice it in very few ways. Mostly only in government. Even our legislative bodies constantly hand new powers over to the executive branches.
(I realize this is a convenient strategy. It allows a legislator to run for or against an executive without taking responsibility themselves.)
(The speed (and lack of discretion) at which this is happening makes me think LLMs are involved. I'm so glad my... *shudder*... peers built these bullshit machines.)
@clacke Reminds me how I didn't hear glottal stops until a friend of mine from Venezuela pointed out she couldn't pronounce Cotton like I do (the name of a coworker). And I was confused, "I'm pretty sure I've heard you say Cotton's name..." She says, "No I say it with a 't' and you say it with..." and then she gestured to her throat. And my mind was blown a tiny bit when I realized what she meant. 😆
@valhalla This is going to be one of those associations that's going to get stuck in my head on first exposure and will pop to mind whenever I see a trackpoint device. 😆
@yrabbit You're right about the boards. I haven't tried to price their parts in any sort of volume, but if there is a similar price difference, then yikes!
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