@redstarfish@prav@cosmin Quicksy and Conversations should be identical in that situation (only difference in sign up and contacts discovery - otherwise both share the same code). Prav is still in beta and we are trying to fix the SMS problem. May be that is a temporary error due to network issues. Are you still not able to send messages ? If you are still not able to send message, please report a bug.
I've tried to use Quicksy but it seems to get stuck at trying to fetch fingerprint of the person I was trying to send the messages. On the other hand, Prav failed to send SMS for registration.
I think Prav or Quicksy will be much better choice for some people as it uses a model they are familiar with.
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Conversations uses encryption by default in private chats. It provides two choices for group chat (i.e MUCs in xmpp terminology, but users will never know they are called that!), "public channel" and "private group chats". Hopefully these names make it clear that they need to choose "private group chat" for e2ee group chat. Conversations takes care of everything for the user. So, I think non techie people will not have any problem.
In Desktop clients, I have only tried Dino and ConverseJS. Dino doesn't encrypt by default but places an open padlock icon right beside the message typing window (and clicking it enables encryption), but starting group chats (MUCs) is very involved.
Group creation with ConverseJS is easier but to get what people are used to with something like WhatsApp, and get encryption, few switches needs to be toggled which will seem unrelated to group encryption.
Now all of my close friends, with whom I chat regularly, are on #xmpp! I'll be trying to get some more people. I had to distribute the Conversations app directly to them as they were unlikely to install "one more app" (viz. f-droid) to install Conversations.
I try not to mention the word "xmpp", instead I say "Just install Conversations". As hearing the word "xmpp" will probably scare them as well.
You can yt-dlp to download if you know the URL. Sadly most of the popular sites are totally broken with Javascript disabled. So finding the URL will be a challenge.
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