@sun @ins0mniak @amerika @cjd @h4890 @sj_zero @threalist

> I wish I could see the rate of people dropping out or dumping the major because as you go further you need those skills anyway.

That's accurate. I mean, when I was boxing, you could tell who was gonna be good at boxing this time next year and who wasn't: the people that complained were going to quit in three months, the people that dropped when the bell rang and dude yelled "PUSHUPS!" were putting in the work.

A person studying security that doesn't wanna touch Linux and complains when given a Linux is not going to be interested in putting in the work when it gets actually difficult. I wouldn't go as far as to say that they need to show up with it, but if they complained about the Linux CD you gave them, they're not interested in putting in the work they'll need to put in.