@ThatWouldBeTelling @KaiserKitty @Elliptica @Frondeur @KingOfWhiteAmerica 1. trump did the coaltion thing after china retaliated. after china got europe, japan, korea on its side.

2. the real world conditions right now at least in the short term, china's exports is business as usual. other countries are dumping t bills to stay alive tho,

3. trump admin did the numbers and flashed the formula, if he has a plan, he would have had serious people come up with the formula right? people would have rudimentarily grasped what his team was trying to correct. But the formula was totally new in concept applied wrongly. not the implementation of tarrifs, the understanding of the components within the previous papers. there's no talk about balance of payment, current and capital accounts.

4. i would like to know trumps win condition before i judge if theres a win lose.

5. china does not rely on a single drop of oil from the usa. those purchases from the us are for the europe market. the ships are on the wrong side of the continent

USA > china ships >europe.