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    That Would Be Telling (thatwouldbetelling@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 12-Apr-2025 06:28:34 JST That Would Be Telling That Would Be Telling
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    @KaiserKitty @Elliptica @Frondeur @IAMAL_PHARIUS @KingOfWhiteAmerica They're real variables and have to be considered for all this. That they sum to one is, again, just a starting point in the whole process.

    What's your alternative? Pretend for real there's no elasticity invoked by changing formal and informal tariffs rates?

    Did the whole equation result in desired or necessary results for Team Trump or not?

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      Chinese man ? #nobot (iamal_pharius@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 12-Apr-2025 06:28:33 JST Chinese man ? #nobot Chinese man ? #nobot
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      @ThatWouldBeTelling @KaiserKitty @Elliptica @Frondeur @KingOfWhiteAmerica >real variables
      ok, agree to disagree, those things are highly specific pulling it out of previous papers only goes so far. most cases the elasticity themselves have formulas not just a value. the 2 values arent even from the same paper or the same year.

      other than imposing a 10% month on month increase in cpi and a global shift away from the dollar. I don't think trump has done much else introducing this. On the ground, away from formula, china has already insulated itself with reroutes over the past 10 years. how is the formula going to do?

      if his plan was to decouple from china or a trade war with china, why not just do that? tell me what exactly is his plan here? whats the "process"? why pause the introduction of these? why does he to talk to china after decoupling? whats with the "DONT RESIST"
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      Frondeur (frondeur@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 12-Apr-2025 06:30:23 JST Frondeur Frondeur
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      @ThatWouldBeTelling @KaiserKitty @Elliptica @IAMAL_PHARIUS @KingOfWhiteAmerica im not sure why they needed to break it into phi AND epsilon...why not just say the multiplier is 1 and call it a day...

      but im guessing there's a strategic component to communicating it...where if an affected country is willing to cut its prices more (higher phi)...this makes it clear the tariff on them could be negotiated lower...
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      Chinese man ? #nobot (iamal_pharius@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 12-Apr-2025 06:32:52 JST Chinese man ? #nobot Chinese man ? #nobot
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      @Frondeur @ThatWouldBeTelling @KaiserKitty @Elliptica @KingOfWhiteAmerica i am not insane, i am the chosen one
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      Chinese man ? #nobot (iamal_pharius@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 12-Apr-2025 06:32:53 JST Chinese man ? #nobot Chinese man ? #nobot
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      @Frondeur @ThatWouldBeTelling @KaiserKitty @Elliptica @KingOfWhiteAmerica say if youre doing cola.

      theres a formula right?

      then some guy tells use to reverse the formula to bring down a specific item in that study, say potatos.

      you do it and now that sped starts using it for policy
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      That Would Be Telling (thatwouldbetelling@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 12-Apr-2025 07:17:15 JST That Would Be Telling That Would Be Telling
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      @IAMAL_PHARIUS @KaiserKitty @Elliptica @Frondeur @KingOfWhiteAmerica "if his plan was to decouple from china or a trade war with china, why not just do that?"

      Given that Team Trump is explicitly talking about creating a coalition against the PRC, this was one way to do that, to make it a world group effort. Which again we, the whole world, really needs to do, the CCP is evil distilled.

      You claim that "china has already insulated itself with reroutes over the past 10 years" might have been true when this was less intense, but it's now so big there's no way a) the PRC can dump in all senses of the word that much stuff they were selling to the US on the rest of the generally poorer world (by design, often, like Western Europe including the UK), and b) as that fails, so do a lot of their businesses.

      To quote many people including the plain speaking (((Treasury Secretary))) deficit trading nations hold all the cards, the PRC has a couple of twos.

      BTW, why did you go back to the formula when making that point? It's not been relevant since the cycle of retaliatory tariffs went figuratively nuclear.

      Do you even want Trump to win this? Your very beginning reading of what's happened so far is a) just that and b) totally unrealistic given, geeze, for instance that the US largely feeds itself, a (worse) economic recession or depression will drop PRC oil consumption (although that gets complicated due to the costs of fracking here in the US), etc.

      It's just silly to look at this as a static thing vs. a work in progress.

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      Chinese man ? #nobot (iamal_pharius@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 12-Apr-2025 07:17:15 JST Chinese man ? #nobot Chinese man ? #nobot
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      @ThatWouldBeTelling @KaiserKitty @Elliptica @Frondeur @KingOfWhiteAmerica 1. trump did the coaltion thing after china retaliated. after china got europe, japan, korea on its side.

      2. the real world conditions right now at least in the short term, china's exports is business as usual. other countries are dumping t bills to stay alive tho,

      3. trump admin did the numbers and flashed the formula, if he has a plan, he would have had serious people come up with the formula right? people would have rudimentarily grasped what his team was trying to correct. But the formula was totally new in concept applied wrongly. not the implementation of tarrifs, the understanding of the components within the previous papers. there's no talk about balance of payment, current and capital accounts.

      4. i would like to know trumps win condition before i judge if theres a win lose.

      5. china does not rely on a single drop of oil from the usa. those purchases from the us are for the europe market. the ships are on the wrong side of the continent

      USA > china ships >europe.
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      @Frondeur @ThatWouldBeTelling @KaiserKitty @Elliptica @KingOfWhiteAmerica
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      Frondeur (frondeur@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 12-Apr-2025 07:23:54 JST Frondeur Frondeur
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      @IAMAL_PHARIUS @ThatWouldBeTelling @KaiserKitty @Elliptica @KingOfWhiteAmerica >balance of payment, current and capital accounts...

      old keynesianism is dead...long live new keyenesianism!!!
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      Chinese man ? #nobot (iamal_pharius@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 12-Apr-2025 07:27:55 JST Chinese man ? #nobot Chinese man ? #nobot
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      @ThatWouldBeTelling @KaiserKitty @Elliptica @Frondeur @KingOfWhiteAmerica >world price
      >in usd
      >relevant for strategic trade between russia and china

      youre giving a stroke stop
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      That Would Be Telling (thatwouldbetelling@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 12-Apr-2025 07:27:56 JST That Would Be Telling That Would Be Telling
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      • Frondeur
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      @IAMAL_PHARIUS @KaiserKitty @Elliptica @Frondeur @KingOfWhiteAmerica "china does not rely on a single drop of oil from the usa."

      Says the man who doesn't realize there's a world price in crude oil, which is a moderately fungible commodity.

      You aren't a serious interlocutor on this topic, perhaps out of ignorance, and there's certainly a TDS component. No point in replying any further (again, on this topic).

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