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> This is cool. Kinda like Oberon, huh? I'll have to look into it more.

Yeah, it's fun. The way it works, bits of it are the author's idiosyncrasies bleeding through but the parts that are smooth are insanely smooth.

> I couldn't really get into acme, the workflow was kind of weird for me,

If you think of the whole thing like a frozen pipe, then acme clicks. (I have a thought or two percolating for a long time, maybe I will get a lazy Saturday to prototype it.)

> The Lisp machine actually did make good use of the mouse, so augmented it with my own replication of that.

Do go on.

> A lot of the lore around Lisp machines is so overblown because it's been gatekept by boomers that want to perpetuate the legend.

Yeah, and defensive too. Peter Suk was talking about bytecode VMs on the Ruby mailing list a long time back and I think he basically nailed it:

> I don't want to argue that Smalltalk was the first widespread commericial implementation of X, because some Lisp-er will inevitably tell me that it was done in 1970-something, and further come back to me with photos from an archaeological dig where paleo-lispers were doing semi Aspect-Oriented things with "around" methods and CDR was implemented by bashing the end off a rock with a large teak club.