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@bjeelka @eva_chaos @humanhorseshoes @mattdm @n_dimension @Gorfram @Mikal

there's no need for any country to physically control previous russian territory

just support and create breakaway sections, carve it up, and install friendly govts. the common russian hews to that local strongman. no need for ukrainian troops to be shot at

you might notice my sly inference that this is what russia does to other countries, now

and could be russia's own ironic fate