@bobbala @BroDrillard @Omega_Variant @DW2 @EssentialUtinsil @Forgetful_Gynn @SuperSnekFriend @branman65 @dictatordave I agree with the general theme of what you're saying— Christ, and by extension God The Father, loves them enough that He forgave them as they're shrieking at Him to die. We know Christ forgave sins (thief on the cross and all the times He said it while performing miracles), so this means something. God is love. But I do not agree that it is transactional to derive some requirement of ourselves or anyone else to receive salvation. Christ did this for each one of us, but not all accept it. Rejecting it is a choice, and that doesn't make it a transactional arrangement.