@wingedhussar @BowsacNoodle @cowanon @Omega_Variant @poastoak Meaning is something mental, though. You grasp it by thought, not through the senses. How do you touch meaning? Or smell meaning? Or taste meaning? If you don't believe in anything beyond the physical, meaning cannot exist.

For that matter, forget about seeing patterns in nature, since patterns are immaterial. They must be, or else you could not possibly explain why the same pattern can simultaneously be fully present in multiple points in time and space. They must both be spatially and temporally unbound.