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   Vaughn Vernon :verified: (vaughnvernon@tilde.zone)'s status on Saturday, 10-Dec-2022 23:24:43 JST Vaughn Vernon :verified:

   • Kris Nóva
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   @hschwentner @philipmay @mstine @ewolff @carolali @bitboss @mo @janekf @oliver @ntcoding @TonyBologni @yellowbrickc @indu @nova @kentbeck @pragdave

   No strong opinion here, but it seems like moving to a different server still limits options because you'll never have "everyone" there and topics will be limited by those who are there.

   Besides, what does hachyderm mean? (I got a skin cancer scan on Wednesday and that's what comes to mind.) The only description I find is that it's a group of 'respectful tech professionals.' That's good. Still, I'd like to know more about why it's the place to be. (My choice for tilde.zone was based on finding a server that was accepting new accounts when others were closed due to heavy influx.)

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     mr. semolina mr. bob semolina (shiftleftist@hachyderm.io)'s status on Saturday, 10-Dec-2022 23:51:38 JST mr. semolina mr. bob semolina

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     @VaughnVernon Respectfully, your question starts from the mistaken idea that Nóva's free, volunteer-run service cares whether you use it or not. People join this community because they like the people and the admins. Nobody has anything to sell you.

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     Vaughn Vernon :verified: (vaughnvernon@tilde.zone)'s status on Saturday, 10-Dec-2022 23:52:44 JST Vaughn Vernon :verified:

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     • Kris Nóva
     • mr. semolina mr. bob semolina

     @shiftleftist @nova Thanks. I know that. A question was possed that perhaps a group of individuals interested in some set of tech topics should move to hachyderm. My thoughts expressed the "why should I do that when I would still have to follow people not on hachyderm?" I don't mind doing so, but I don't know how that would "solve" the fediverse when it's not supposed to be "solved."

     Context matters.

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     Brian Campbell (unlambda@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 11-Dec-2022 00:28:04 JST Brian Campbell

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     • Kris Nóva
     • mr. semolina mr. bob semolina

     @VaughnVernon @shiftleftist @nova So, there are a couple of things that you choose when you choose an instance:

     * Admin team
     * Mod team (sometimes same as admin)
     * Local and global feeds

     The admin team determines whether the infrastructure is reliable and efficient.

     The mod team can affect what you can say and who you can talk to.

     The local and global feeds are ways of discovering discussions outside your follows, but can be useless if too big/unfocused

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     Brian Campbell (unlambda@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 11-Dec-2022 00:28:05 JST Brian Campbell

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     • Kris Nóva
     • mr. semolina mr. bob semolina

     @VaughnVernon @shiftleftist @nova so to choose an instance, take a look at who the admin is, if they have any public info about how they keep the infra running, how they fund it, etc

     Look at the moderators and mod policy; do they match with your moderation expectations? Will they allow trolls to make your life miserable? Will they cut you off from someone you want to follow because of some beef with the admin of that instance?

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     Brian Campbell (unlambda@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 11-Dec-2022 00:28:07 JST Brian Campbell

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     • Kris Nóva
     • mr. semolina mr. bob semolina

     @VaughnVernon @shiftleftist @nova and then go check out the local and global feeds on the instance. Search for hashtags you are interested in on them. These are a few methods of discovery on Mastodon. On big, general purpose instances, I've found the local and global feeds too noisy to be useful. On Hachyderm, it's a focused enough community that I find conversations to join on the local feed fairly often, though the global feed is still a bit noisy.

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     Matt Stine (mstine@mastodon.sdf.org)'s status on Sunday, 11-Dec-2022 00:58:02 JST Matt Stine

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     @mendel @unlambda @VaughnVernon @shiftleftist @nova @quintessence

     I'm going to try to simplify this for you.

     If you like the server you are on, you probably shouldn't move. If you move, it's unlikely that your experience will improve. It's far more likely to degrade.

     Slice and dice that however you like with operational excellence, trust and safety, relevance of local feed, etc.

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     Rich Lafferty 🐀 (mendel@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 11-Dec-2022 00:58:10 JST Rich Lafferty 🐀

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     • quintessence :blobfoxflooftea:
     • Brian Campbell
     • mr. semolina mr. bob semolina

     @unlambda @VaughnVernon @shiftleftist @nova I'd add a little color to that by calling the mod team "trust and safety".

     Admins make sure the system is available, secure, and running well, mod team makes sure it's a safe place for its users.

     I moved here because I have a ton of confidence in @nova and @quintessence's approach to governance.

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     Kris Nóva (nova@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 11-Dec-2022 00:58:41 JST Kris Nóva

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     • Brian Campbell
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     • mr. semolina mr. bob semolina
     • Rich Lafferty 🐀

     @mstine @mendel @unlambda @VaughnVernon @shiftleftist @quintessence

     I try to stay out of these conversations, but I just wanted to say that @mstine has the winning model for how to frame this conversation.