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   RedPotato (red-potato@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 23-Jul-2026 11:07:29 JST RedPotato
   "Y bad thing happened in Bible?"
   
   Is just the whole atheist argument.
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     Jezza™ (jeremiah@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 23-Jul-2026 11:07:26 JST Jezza™

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     @subnetter @matty @Red-Potato aside islam and judaism, what religions excuse pedophilia?
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     renjen (subnetter@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 23-Jul-2026 11:07:26 JST renjen

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     @jeremiah @Red-Potato @matty idk there's way too many of them (religions I mean), but in terms of Abrahamic faiths it was generally understood that pastoral cultures were patriarchal in comparison to agricultural societies that leaned more matriarchal
     
     also way too many cultures that believed if "she bleeds she's free", not including pedastry that was common among several ancient civilizations
     
     What I mean to say is, while I have criticism of all Abrahamic religions and their attitudes towards women and children, these were not uncommon sentiments for the time. Obviously, some religions such as Islam have not caught up to contemporary times and have not shifted as much on their original viewpoints compared to Christianity (umbrella).
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     renjen (subnetter@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 23-Jul-2026 11:07:27 JST renjen

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     @matty @Red-Potato what's exhausting is whataboutism about which religion excuses pedophilia less or more
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     Matty (matty@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 23-Jul-2026 11:07:28 JST Matty

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     Well Aisha was 9 and girls matured faster back then or something so it's okay to the sand nigger
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     Matty (matty@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 23-Jul-2026 11:07:29 JST Matty

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     RedPotato (red-potato@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 23-Jul-2026 11:07:29 JST RedPotato

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     "Y do people die in Bible"
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     Matty (matty@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 23-Jul-2026 11:07:29 JST Matty

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     I have to admit I'm impressed with their hubris
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     RedPotato (red-potato@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 23-Jul-2026 11:07:29 JST RedPotato

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     The argument is always, if this, why that? It's just so exhausting to watch. They never ask why Mohammad married a 7 year old though.
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     renjen (subnetter@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 23-Jul-2026 12:22:28 JST renjen

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     @jeremiah @Red-Potato @matty I need to brush up on this topic because it's been a while since I have studied it, but there were a couple matriarchal societies, however just because a culture was agricultural does not mean it was 100% a matriarchy, they just might have had different attitudes compared to more patriarchal societies
     
     I don't remember if it was the Greeks, but I believe this culture was considered agricultural and their veneration of goddesses associated with fertility may have played a part in that
     
     Sorry if this isn't a comprehensive answer but it's been a while since I dived deep into this and I don't want to misrepresent things. I heard Myanmar was also agricultural?
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     Blurry Moon (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 23-Jul-2026 12:22:28 JST Blurry Moon

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     @subnetter @jeremiah @Red-Potato @matty there were matriarchies in mesopotamia, sumerian religion was matriarchal but that got wiped out with marduk
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     Jezza™ (jeremiah@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 23-Jul-2026 12:22:29 JST Jezza™

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     @subnetter @Red-Potato @matty is the "leaned matriarchial" some reference to Gimbutas?
     
     With only a few exceptions, mostly among hunter-gather level clan-scale societies, there's pretty much no evidence for matriarchical society.
     
     The major proponent of the idea of widespread matriarchy is Marija Gimbutas, who suggested that a matriarchical old europe was pushed aside by indo-european speakers. She's embraced more by people in "studies" departments than archaeologists and other students of antiquities.
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     Jezza™ (jeremiah@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 23-Jul-2026 13:17:28 JST Jezza™

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     @sun @subnetter @Red-Potato @matty do you have rceipts for that? Sumerian religion certianly had goddess figures, but the hierarchy, witnessed by their texts, was mostly patriarchical.
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     Blurry Moon (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 23-Jul-2026 13:18:06 JST Blurry Moon

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     @jeremiah @Red-Potato @matty @subnetter it depends who you ask but even the religion became patriarchal at that point
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     Blurry Moon (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 23-Jul-2026 14:18:03 JST Blurry Moon

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     @jeremiah @Red-Potato @matty @subnetter please don't ask me to go deep into this, I studied it at university and don't have all that information at my fingertips anymore
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     Jezza™ (jeremiah@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 23-Jul-2026 14:18:04 JST Jezza™

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     @sun @Red-Potato @matty @subnetter how do we know that? What evidence do we have of this transition?
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     Blurry Moon (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 23-Jul-2026 14:19:19 JST Blurry Moon

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     @jeremiah @Red-Potato @matty @subnetter you will only get specialist commentary on this not primary sources. I don't want to defer to experts but I have to here.
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     Jezza™ (jeremiah@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 23-Jul-2026 14:19:20 JST Jezza™

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     @sun @Red-Potato @matty @subnetter if you're going to make the claim, i would hope you could substantiate it for those of us who are interested in the topic and would like to see the material you're referencing.
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     Blurry Moon (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 23-Jul-2026 14:21:07 JST Blurry Moon

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     @jeremiah @Red-Potato @matty @subnetter feel free to discard the info, there's not perfect records of the governments obviously but a lot of the power shifted from temple cults to the king