Well this is truly bad. US national level OS-level age verification bill. https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/8250/all-info
The text of it isn't out yet.
Well this is truly bad. US national level OS-level age verification bill. https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/8250/all-info
The text of it isn't out yet.
We don't know who's funding this stuff for sure, there was the vibecoded analysis that came to the conclusion of Meta, but I suspect that could be true but Meta wouldn't be alone.
Who stands to benefit from this? A lot of forces of centralization, and anti-LGBTQ orgs:
- Microsoft, for sure, since they are seeing Windows' dominance threatened?
- Apple, for similar reasons?
- Peter Theil and similar surveillance company owners and operators?
- Anti-queer orgs and think tanks like the Heritage Foundation?
- Cloudflare, who will probably run the age verification paywalls everyone will be forced to deploy?
Who's behind this? Who's getting politicians so excited about it? There's such a swell of bipartisan support seemingly out of nowhere, and my suspicion is a lot of that enthusiasm is coming from check-writing.
So who's behind it?
If *I* were an investigative journalist, this is a piece I'd be pouring a lot of energy into. I know we have a few investigative journalists on here... maybe someone wants to take it up?
@cwebber Move fast, break things and f**k the public.
@cwebber Why do these bad ideas always seem to get trendy with law makers..
@ra6bit @cwebber Because someone is spending astronomical amounts of money on making it trendy and lawmakers pretend like this is a completely fine and normal thing to do.
@fooderick Hoo what a hell of a title
@cwebber The text of the bill is now live:
https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/8250/text
Note that it bears a different "display title" now: "Parents Decide Act"
@cwebber Oh, you contributed code to an operating system that someone else used to ship a non-compliant device? Congrats, you're liable.
@cwebber it seems extremely obvious that established social media companies like Facebook would have a rational incentive to create market barriers to entry, such as draconian laws.
but i would want to see evidence of that actually happening, and if someone admits to using LLMs then everything they say should be assumed to be statistical noise
@mcc Yeah. I just haven't heard anyone else doing more investigative reporting on it. I'm hoping that someone will because it is desperately needed.
@cwebber @Andres4NY Yuup, already contacted my representatives about it. Encouraging others to do the same.
@cwebber 404 has been doing some good work in the lead up. Let's hope it accelerates now that there's an actual bill & sponsors to pillory.
@cwebber You forgot #NSAbook / #StasiBook / #Facebook (I refuse to call it "#Meta!") who want to criminalize the #Fediverse and other decentralized competition!
https://jorts.horse/@kkarhan/116408665960000292
I won't comply ( @OS1337 ) and I expect everyone else tovdo the same.
@rrb wut
@cwebber I guess there will be Linux versions hosted in the "free world." You will have to use a VPN to download the ISO and install it clandestinely. Tor and I2P in the distros. No AI spyware. May get people to drop Apple/MS systems.
I see mainly upsides.
@dalias @aral @ra6bit @cwebber that someone could well be Zuckerberg (although I'm aware Thiel has plenty of ways to profit from it too)
@cwebber FWIW, the California legislation was opposed by big tech's lobbying firms. IMO what we have here is a fundamental disconnect between technical people and non-technical people in understanding how to address a perceived issue (the internet is scary for kids). Polling consistently shows broad support for this issue, which is in part why this is a bipartisan bill.
I'm not agreeing with it; I'm just saying the motivations might not be from Big Tech itself.
@mttaggart @cwebber the issue isn't "the internet is scary for kids" it's "kids having the internet is scary for people in power" it's threatening everything from their suppression of LGBT youth to their genocide in gaza
The US is a fascist dictatorship, but under normal situations, using a computer is clear and obvious speech, like using a printing press, and prior restraint on speech by first requiring age verification is bullshit according to lots of "settled" case law. Of course, none of that applies under a system where any old bullshit invented by Nazis goes through the SCOTUS with an express lane sticker.
@cwebber @Andres4NY
The Land of the Free is dead.
Without much hope, wondering if anything or anyone from The Home of the Brave still exists to oppose and ignore/break an unjust law.
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