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   Jason Evangelho 🌊🏕️ (killyourfm@layer8.space)'s status on Sunday, 14-Dec-2025 08:36:32 JST Jason Evangelho 🌊🏕️

   If you've been a Spotify premium subscriber since it launched, you've given Spotify nearly $2000, and you own absolutely nothing.

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     Jake Hildreth (acorn) :blacker_heart_outline: (horse@infosec.exchange)'s status on Sunday, 14-Dec-2025 09:11:08 JST Jake Hildreth (acorn) :blacker_heart_outline:

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     • Viss

     @killyourfm @Viss A feature not a bug for me.

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     Jason Evangelho 🌊🏕️ (killyourfm@layer8.space)'s status on Sunday, 14-Dec-2025 11:59:14 JST Jason Evangelho 🌊🏕️

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     • Thomas P. Moonis

     @MisterMoo But for many years, you've been able to buy CDs for a few bucks each.

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     Thomas P. Moonis (mistermoo@mstdn.social)'s status on Sunday, 14-Dec-2025 11:59:16 JST Thomas P. Moonis

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     @killyourfm For that, at $20 each — the typical pre-steaming era CD price — you could have full ownership of 100 records.

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     Jason Evangelho 🌊🏕️ (killyourfm@layer8.space)'s status on Sunday, 14-Dec-2025 12:44:34 JST Jason Evangelho 🌊🏕️

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     • Kevin Spencer

     @kevinspencer The plus side is that those bands are getting WAY more of a share from your t-shirt purchase than they would from the CD.

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     Kevin Spencer (kevinspencer@mastodon.cloud)'s status on Sunday, 14-Dec-2025 12:44:35 JST Kevin Spencer

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     @killyourfm thus is the deal you make for accessing an unlimited amount of content I suppose.

     I've discovered so much new music on Spotify over the years. This year alone I've gone to 5 concerts from bands I'd never heard of before. $25 - $50 a ticket and then t-shirts.

     And it's true I haven't bought their CDs, but I wouldn't have given them _any_ money if I'd not heard them on Spotify.

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     Jason Evangelho 🌊🏕️ (killyourfm@layer8.space)'s status on Sunday, 14-Dec-2025 14:07:54 JST Jason Evangelho 🌊🏕️

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     • VulcanTourist
     • Mary Gersten 🇮🇱🥃

     @coffeethrowaway @VulcanTourist I don’t know when it happened, but I see a LOT of people going
     Back to iPods and physical media.

     And iPods? Still awesome in 2025 :)

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     Mary Gersten 🇮🇱🥃 (coffeethrowaway@hooves.social)'s status on Sunday, 14-Dec-2025 14:08:00 JST Mary Gersten 🇮🇱🥃

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     • VulcanTourist

     @VulcanTourist@autistics.life @killyourfm@layer8.space Man, I hate Spotify. Like, we had the perfect music thing with iPods and mp3s and such, where did we decide to throw all that out and go, "SPOTIFY IS THE WAVE OF THE FUTURE?!"

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     VulcanTourist (vulcantourist@autistics.life)'s status on Sunday, 14-Dec-2025 14:08:01 JST VulcanTourist

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     @killyourfm

     Ahhhh, so *that* is why I've never had a Spotify account! I knew there was some good reason. 😉

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     Chris Ferdinandi (cferdinandi@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 14-Dec-2025 23:18:52 JST Chris Ferdinandi

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     @killyourfm and in exchange I’ve enjoyed countless hours of music, discovered hundreds of new artists I’d have otherwise never heard of, and had instant access to any song I want to listen to no matter where I am.

     I get it, but ownership isn’t everything. Syncing music to an iPod and picking which songs you care most about that can fit on your device sucked. So did trying to find a CD while driving.

     Streaming is good, actually.

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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 14-Dec-2025 23:18:52 JST 翠星石

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     • Chris Ferdinandi
     @cferdinandi @killyourfm Ah yes, the typical mastadon post.
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     Jason Evangelho 🌊🏕️ (killyourfm@layer8.space)'s status on Monday, 15-Dec-2025 00:09:23 JST Jason Evangelho 🌊🏕️

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     • Mx Amber Alex (she/it) 😷

     @amberage *NODS*
     It feels great when you have that realization. It seems like anything Netflix doesn't produce directly will end up leaving at some point. We've seen enough "streaming musical chairs" to know it's inevitable.

     (Also, it's great owning shows like Scrubs on DVD because a BUNCH of its originally aired songs got replaced for streaming...)

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     Mx Amber Alex (she/it) 😷 (amberage@eldritch.cafe)'s status on Monday, 15-Dec-2025 00:09:25 JST Mx Amber Alex (she/it) 😷

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     @killyourfm came to the same realisation this week about Netflix – if I'd bought all the Star Trek DVD sets six years ago, I'd probably have spent less money than I spent on Netflix in the same time, and I'd still have Star Trek (which they're pulling from Netflix)

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     Jason Evangelho 🌊🏕️ (killyourfm@layer8.space)'s status on Monday, 15-Dec-2025 00:13:09 JST Jason Evangelho 🌊🏕️

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     • Warriormaster
     • Light Kind

     @warriormaster @LightKind It's easier than you might think! My Plex server has been a fantastic experience on a daily basis. I literally have my OWN Spotify now, and the Sonic Analysis / Sonic DJ features are so much fun.

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     Warriormaster (warriormaster@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 15-Dec-2025 00:13:10 JST Warriormaster

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     • Light Kind

     @LightKind @killyourfm Shame though that Bandcamp's music player is kind of lackluster. I don't understand why can't I shuffle songs inside a playlist.

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     Light Kind (lightkind@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 15-Dec-2025 00:13:10 JST Light Kind

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     • Warriormaster

     @warriormaster @killyourfm True but I just download all the songs I like so Elisa takes care of the rest. :)

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     Warriormaster (warriormaster@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 15-Dec-2025 00:13:10 JST Warriormaster

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     • Light Kind

     @LightKind @killyourfm I guess I just need to build a streaming server 😂

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     Light Kind (lightkind@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 15-Dec-2025 00:13:11 JST Light Kind

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     @killyourfm The exact reason I don't use it. Bandcamp is the way to go! :)

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     Jason Evangelho 🌊🏕️ (killyourfm@layer8.space)'s status on Monday, 15-Dec-2025 00:14:02 JST Jason Evangelho 🌊🏕️

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     • Ciaran McNulty

     @ciaran And CDs have been dirt cheap for years. Significantly less than $20 apiece.

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     Ciaran McNulty (ciaran@mcnulty.social)'s status on Monday, 15-Dec-2025 00:14:24 JST Ciaran McNulty

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     @killyourfm that's like 100 CDs

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     Jason Evangelho 🌊🏕️ (killyourfm@layer8.space)'s status on Monday, 15-Dec-2025 00:15:10 JST Jason Evangelho 🌊🏕️

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     • Light Kind

     @warriormaster @LightKind Yea, it feels like Bandcamp missed a real opportunity there.

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     Dave Winer ☕️ (davew@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 15-Dec-2025 00:16:29 JST Dave Winer ☕️

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     @killyourfm

     One thing that’s esp bad is when they make it impossible to cancel the subscription.

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     Jason Evangelho 🌊🏕️ (killyourfm@layer8.space)'s status on Monday, 15-Dec-2025 00:16:29 JST Jason Evangelho 🌊🏕️

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     • Dave Winer ☕️

     @davew DAVE WINER! What a joy to meet you here on Mastodon. Sir, you are one of my heroes. I'm the guy behind Insomnia Radio (one of the first 30 podcasts in the world) and I've been a podcasting fanatic ever since. Thanks for helping bring RSS and podcasts to the world.

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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 15-Dec-2025 00:17:00 JST 翠星石

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     • Ciaran McNulty
     @killyourfm @ciaran >dirt cheap >less than $20 apiece.
     What kind of expensive dirt are you buying?
     
     You can get topsoil for $10 USD/ton.
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     mischievoustomato@0.5dollah.click's status on Tuesday, 16-Dec-2025 04:44:34 JST mischievoustomato

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     @killyourfm The entertainment-over-time is worth it, and I say this as someone who used to pay for spotify but doesn't due to being poor ™️ . I just pirate currently but I'll stop once I can afford spotify or Apple Music (which was honestly better).