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   pettanko (pettanko@tsundere.love)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Nov-2025 21:27:09 JST pettanko
   I knew something was fishy when they tried to get everyone to switch from saying "child porn" to "CSAM" and I think I'm starting to see what.
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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Nov-2025 21:27:09 JST SuperDicq

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     @pettanko@tsundere.love I want to know more about this story about the Norwegian man. Is there a source for this?

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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Nov-2025 21:30:05 JST SuperDicq

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     @Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com @pettanko@tsundere.love I'm going to assume that is not the full article.

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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Nov-2025 21:30:06 JST 翠星石

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     @SuperDicq @pettanko All the article says is; "I en fersk dom fra Sør-Rogaland tingrett slås det fast at det japanske PC-spillet er overgrepsmateriale. Retten mener at spillet alene ville vært et forelegg, men den unge mannen hadde også delt svært grovt overgrepsmateriale."
     
     Not paywalled if you don't run proprietary malware.
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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Nov-2025 21:30:07 JST SuperDicq

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     @pettanko@tsundere.love A single article that I can't even read because of a paywall. I am starting to doubt the validity of this story.

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     pettanko (pettanko@tsundere.love)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Nov-2025 21:30:08 JST pettanko

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     @SuperDicq this is the only link anyone actually shared https://www.aftenbladet.no/lokalt/i/mP75B0/ung-mann-doemt-etter-aa-ha-spilt-dette-spillet
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Nov-2025 21:33:52 JST 翠星石

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     @SuperDicq @pettanko I figure a 50/50 chance it is considering the state of typical "journalism" nowadays.
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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Nov-2025 21:36:20 JST SuperDicq

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     @Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com @pettanko@tsundere.love As I said. We have no context to go off on. I'm sure he wasn't arrested for playing a video game alone, he probably did something else.

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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Nov-2025 21:36:21 JST 翠星石

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     @SuperDicq @pettanko >Inspects element.
     Yes, the actual article text is proprietarywalled.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Nov-2025 21:38:23 JST 翠星石

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     @SuperDicq @pettanko From the limited text it seems he could have also collected pizza, but that is unclear.
     
     In many countries you can get arrested for playing forbidden video games - it's just that such kind of forbidden games are generally only run outside of public view.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Nov-2025 21:41:06 JST 翠星石

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     @SuperDicq @pettanko >Only 4chan has a free copy of the article; https://boards.4chan.org/int/thread/216690156
     
     Well I can't read that.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Nov-2025 21:42:30 JST 翠星石

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     @SuperDicq @pettanko Busted for pizza and the prosecutor came up with complete garbage where the fictional game was included in the indictment.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Nov-2025 21:46:19 JST 翠星石

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     @SuperDicq @pettanko It seems he was arrested for "abuse material", although the article doesn't make it clear if it was for fictional drawings or pizza.
     
     Looks like he was indeed arrested for drawings.
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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Nov-2025 21:48:15 JST SuperDicq

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     @Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com @pettanko@tsundere.love Goddamn I hate journos so much. I think there should be no ambiguity to make it clear if the dude is just a gooner or has the actual pizza.

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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Nov-2025 21:54:49 JST SuperDicq

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     @Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com @pettanko@tsundere.love But yeah Norwegia sucks then I guess.
     
     No art should be illegal, no matter how disgusting you may think it is.
     
     Banning art is censorship.

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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Nov-2025 22:00:02 JST 翠星石

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     @SuperDicq @pettanko Idk, but this article links to sources; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_status_of_fictional_pornography_depicting_minors?useskin=monobook#Netherlands
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     pettanko (pettanko@tsundere.love)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Nov-2025 22:00:04 JST pettanko

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     @SuperDicq @Suiseiseki The ambiguity is intentional because they want you thrown in jail for both.
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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Nov-2025 22:00:04 JST SuperDicq

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     @pettanko@tsundere.love @Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com As far as I know in the Netherlands I don't think drawings can be classified as child porn.

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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Nov-2025 22:06:43 JST 翠星石

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     @SuperDicq @pettanko So gooners are safe for now in the Netherlands?
     
     So, governments love to do nothing more than finding any excuse to change laws of course.
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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Nov-2025 22:06:44 JST SuperDicq

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     @Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com @pettanko@tsundere.love I have read the Dutch version of the law and it is quite clear from the text that it does not include drawings or fiction.

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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Nov-2025 22:07:08 JST 翠星石

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     @SuperDicq @pettanko So gooners are safe for now in the Netherlands?
     
     Still, governments love to do nothing more than finding any excuse to change laws.
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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Nov-2025 22:10:59 JST SuperDicq

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     @pettanko@tsundere.love @Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com Even the English wikipedia article Suiseiseki linked agrees with me where in court the precedence about this law has been set that images are only illegal if are unmistakable from reality by the average viewer.
     
     I think that makes it very clear that anime drawings can't be illegal.

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     pettanko (pettanko@tsundere.love)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Nov-2025 22:11:00 JST pettanko

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     • SuperDicq
     @SuperDicq @Suiseiseki Yeah but I'm sure many Dutch journalists disagree with that.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Nov-2025 22:13:05 JST 翠星石

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     @RedTechEngineer @SuperDicq @pettanko I use tor, so no.
     
     Still, I'm already on all the government watchlists.
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     RedTechEngineer (redtechengineer@fedi.lowpassfilter.link)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Nov-2025 22:13:06 JST RedTechEngineer

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     @Suiseiseki @SuperDicq @pettanko visiting this web page puts you on several government watchlists.
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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Nov-2025 22:19:27 JST SuperDicq

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     @pettanko@tsundere.love @Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com Anyway I had never heard about this game but it looks interesting so I think I'm gonna enjoy playing some 奴隷との生活 when I get home just because I can to celebrate living in a country that doesn't put people in jail for owning drawings.

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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Nov-2025 22:20:32 JST 翠星石

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     @SuperDicq @pettanko You shouldn't run such game, simply because it's proprietary software.
     
     If it was free software, then there wouldn't be a reason not to run it, but why?
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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Nov-2025 22:22:56 JST SuperDicq

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     @Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com @pettanko@tsundere.love But I'm already doing my part writing a free software game engine replacement for a game that contains sexual content considered taboo by most western countries. Maybe I'll work on another one when this one is done.

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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Nov-2025 22:29:18 JST 翠星石

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     @SuperDicq @pettanko After glancing at the game script files, it seems that the characters are 18 and she's not your sister, which isn't particularly taboo in western countries.
     
     Apparently someone did exercise their freedom to release a version which "fixed" such perceived flaws.
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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Nov-2025 22:31:31 JST SuperDicq

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     @Jens_Rasmussen@poa.st @lichelordgodfrey@poa.st @Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com @pettanko@tsundere.love Yes, but the Norwegians are the dumb ones for actually listening to what Americans have to say and to have these unethical laws in the first place.

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     Lichelord Godfrey (lichelordgodfrey@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Nov-2025 22:31:32 JST Lichelord Godfrey

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     @Jens_Rasmussen @Suiseiseki @SuperDicq @pettanko if we were living in the alternate timeline I wouldn't give a fuck if this stuff was banned (though I would probably not be nearly as messed up in that timeline, if I exist in it), I still sort of don't but it's just
     
     this is low hanging fruit for someone trying to look like they're "doing something" by putting out a fire in their corner of the house while it's entirely engulfed in flames.
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     Jens_Rasmussen (jens_rasmussen@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Nov-2025 22:31:32 JST Jens_Rasmussen

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     @lichelordgodfrey @Suiseiseki @SuperDicq @pettanko As was mentioned in the OP, the whole case is built on a tip from an American organization that is government funded.
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     Jens_Rasmussen (jens_rasmussen@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Nov-2025 22:31:33 JST Jens_Rasmussen

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     @lichelordgodfrey @Suiseiseki @SuperDicq @pettanko Quite the waste of time indeed.
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     Jens_Rasmussen (jens_rasmussen@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Nov-2025 22:31:34 JST Jens_Rasmussen

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     @Suiseiseki @SuperDicq @pettanko Just read it. The prosecution very much claims that Teaching Feeling is considered "[sexually] exploitative material", even though no one is being exploited by the game.
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     Lichelord Godfrey (lichelordgodfrey@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Nov-2025 22:31:34 JST Lichelord Godfrey

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     @Jens_Rasmussen @Suiseiseki @SuperDicq @pettanko seems a bit of a waste of time (unless he was also using (real) CSAM) considering the non-Whites and fags raping girls and boys in Norway.
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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Nov-2025 22:32:49 JST SuperDicq

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     @phnt@fluffytail.org @Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com @pettanko@tsundere.love I am personally really not a fan of shota/loli. But I even though it makes me look bad in the eyes of some, I do think it would be a really hypocritical for me, as a free software/culture/etc. activist to be in favor of banning specific types of art, just because some christo-fascists don't like it.

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     Phantasm (phnt@fluffytail.org)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Nov-2025 22:32:50 JST Phantasm

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     @SuperDicq @Suiseiseki @pettanko /marked/
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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Nov-2025 22:39:58 JST SuperDicq

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     @Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com @pettanko@tsundere.love That's true. The entire game is a legal loophole because the characters are "18" and she's not really your sister, but "only pretending". And also all the outfit options based on other fictional characters are fine because it's just "cosplay".

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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Nov-2025 22:44:32 JST SuperDicq

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     @Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com @pettanko@tsundere.love And yes I'm trying to collect all versions of PL2 that I can find, mostly for archivist reasons.
     
     There are a few modded versions of the game that include the so called "loli-mode", but funnily enough this is not even a different character model, it is literally the same character model with a different animation set that simply scales all of their body parts down to loli proportions.

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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Nov-2025 22:45:10 JST 翠星石

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     @RedTechEngineer @SuperDicq @pettanko Ohhhhh snappp.
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     RedTechEngineer (redtechengineer@fedi.lowpassfilter.link)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Nov-2025 22:45:11 JST RedTechEngineer

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     @Suiseiseki @SuperDicq @pettanko all characters are now the protagonist's 10 year old sisters.
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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Nov-2025 22:48:49 JST SuperDicq

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     @Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com @pettanko@tsundere.love Also if you've read the script files maybe you could write a parser for them using GNU Bison so we can port the game to GNU C instead of Python.

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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Nov-2025 22:54:20 JST 翠星石

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     @SuperDicq @pettanko Is there some defect with Python that would make it important to port the game away from Python?
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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Nov-2025 22:57:14 JST SuperDicq

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     @Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com @pettanko@tsundere.love No, there's nothing wrong with it. I just thought this would be more according to your tastes.

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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Nov-2025 23:01:07 JST 翠星石

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     @SuperDicq @pettanko I don't like python, but it is a free language.
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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Nov-2025 23:09:56 JST SuperDicq

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     @Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com @pettanko@tsundere.love I love/hate Python. I like writing it because I find its syntax quite pleasing to write and navigate in general. But I hate it's interpreter performance and also its import system and terrible package management.

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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Nov-2025 23:11:25 JST 翠星石

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     I@SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo @pettanko I hate writing python as its syntax and functions are terrible - making it difficult to do things that would be trivial in C.
     
     How the indentation is part of the syntax makes it painful to navigate.
     
     It does have terrible performance and only gentoo ebuild's properly package it.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Nov-2025 23:23:41 JST 翠星石

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     • :umu: :umu:
     @a1ba @SuperDicq @pettanko You indent with tabs and then 2 spaces.
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     @SuperDicq @Suiseiseki @pettanko and you better not, it tells nonsense things like indenting with four spaces.
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     • :umu: :umu:

     @a1ba@suya.place @Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com @pettanko@tsundere.love I have not read PEP-8. I simply format my code in the way that I like think looks best. It's probably inconsistent in some places, I have not checked.
     
     I did make an emacs function to format all my imports nicely tho.

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     @Suiseiseki @SuperDicq @pettanko dunno how indentation can be painful because in most other languages you, hopefully, do indent your code.
     
     Though PEP-8 lovers can burn in hell. Some pythonists follow it religiously but the document really says it's for standard library.
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     @a1ba@suya.place @Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com @pettanko@tsundere.love I'm usually a four spaces guy, but the original OPL2 project used tabs so I decided to keep this convention and also used tabs in my rewrite of the project.

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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Nov-2025 23:32:08 JST SuperDicq

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     @Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com @pettanko@tsundere.love But I am still thinking about taking the solid core components this game engine and turning it into a generic game engine for 3D visual novels.
     
     But I'm still deciding that if I end up doing that if I should keep doing it in Python or if I should switch to something else.
     
     Unfortunately if I would switch to another language the most obvious candidate would be C++, because first and foremost it is the only other language compatible with Panda3D and C++ also often what professional game developers are most familiar with.
     
     But maybe sticking to Python would be the right choice, as Python is probably one of the most approachable languages for solo or small game developers which will likely be the target audience for a game engine like this.
     
     Just thinking about how to make this project useful for the most amount of people.

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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Nov-2025 23:47:54 JST 翠星石

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     @SuperDicq @pettanko C++ projects tend to become uncompileable and writing C++ is a complete mess - ironically python is much cleaner for this sort of thing - as a game developed with little programming skills can copy-paste some example python scripts and start editing them straight away, rather than having to deal with C++ compiler errors.
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     pettanko (pettanko@tsundere.love)'s status on Saturday, 15-Nov-2025 12:33:46 JST pettanko

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     @meso in this case they didn’t do that
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     meso (meso@new.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 15-Nov-2025 12:33:47 JST meso

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     @pettanko never said it was, I'm saying the mission of NCMEC is to detect child porn
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     pettanko (pettanko@tsundere.love)'s status on Saturday, 15-Nov-2025 12:33:48 JST pettanko

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     @meso anime pictures aren't child porn retard
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     meso (meso@new.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 15-Nov-2025 12:33:49 JST meso

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     @pettanko the tone lmao, what a pathetic faggot. Organizations like NCMEC suck for a different reason (not letting hosters use their recognition database, harassing hosters, not caring nearly enough). Whining about muh tax dollars when you're talking about detecting child porn is hilariously obvious pedofaggot bullshit