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   Star Labs Systems (starlabssystems@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 30-Aug-2025 01:26:29 JST Star Labs Systems

   Tier List of Linux Hardware computer brands 👀

   Credit: https://www.reddit.com/r/degoogle/comments/1n01etz/tier_list_of_linux_hardware_computer_brands/

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     CrunkLord420 (crunklord420@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 30-Aug-2025 01:36:31 JST CrunkLord420

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     @starlabssystems I hate all these stupid "FOSS" laptop companies, especially Framework. None of them are better than a random Lenovo or Dell laptop. They're mostly just whitelabel laptops they buy from other companies. They cost way more, you get way less. The "value" of a Framework laptop is mostly fictional, an expensive gimmick.
     
     At least System76 did some extra stuff with Intel ME cleaning, but I suspect they don't even do that anymore. Who wants an Intel CPU anyways. I've never heard of anyone doing an "AMD PSP Cleaning".
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     CrunkLord420 (crunklord420@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 30-Aug-2025 01:38:22 JST CrunkLord420

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     • Zergling_man
     @Zergling_man @starlabssystems
     >use the same binding interface between screen-lid and keyboard-base
     what? You mean with a Framework laptop? I don't know what you mean.
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     Zergling_man (zergling_man@sacred.harpy.faith)'s status on Saturday, 30-Aug-2025 01:38:23 JST Zergling_man

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     • CrunkLord420
     @crunklord420 @starlabssystems It actually all depends on whether they use the same binding interface between screen-lid and keyboard-base.
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     djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Saturday, 30-Aug-2025 01:43:16 JST djsumdog

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     • CrunkLord420
     The Framework 13 has a decent UEFI menu and is easy to repair, but it doesn't really have the best thermals. It's not the worst laptop as far as throttling goes (the Lenovo X1 Carbon with the 11th gen Intel chip takes the prize there), but it comes in second.
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     Eric Zhang 2: Episode 1 (eric@pl.starnix.network)'s status on Saturday, 30-Aug-2025 02:01:48 JST Eric Zhang 2: Episode 1

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     • CrunkLord420

     @crunklord420 @starlabssystems I don't get why you have to get a Linux computer in the first place. It's not 1999 anymore and literally any random laptop will work with your favorite distro or whatever

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     djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Saturday, 30-Aug-2025 02:07:09 JST djsumdog

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     Purism should be F tier since they are a scam shop that wouldn't be in business if they didn't steal customer's money:
     
     https://battlepenguin.com/tech/the-purism-libre-5-and-the-six-year-refund/
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     CrunkLord420 (crunklord420@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 30-Aug-2025 02:38:12 JST CrunkLord420

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     • PunishedD
     @PunishedD @starlabssystems Framework will never ever become cost competitive. They will continue to sell "expansion cards" containing $5 off the shelf chipsets for $40.
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     PunishedD (punishedd@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 30-Aug-2025 02:38:13 JST PunishedD

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     • CrunkLord420
     @crunklord420 @starlabssystems The idea of Framework is great, but they needed mass volume to make it worthwhile. Cheap easily replaceable parts are the gimmick, but their parts aren't compellingly cheap.
     
     Having a laptop where you can swap in an Ethernet port or more storage without soldering is cool, and maybe $40-$45 is reasonable for that. But not when you're starting with a $1300-$1700 laptop. Framework needed to hit like 10-20% market share and drop their prices hugely, become true commodity vendors instead of a boutique.
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     PunishedD (punishedd@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 30-Aug-2025 03:03:23 JST PunishedD

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     • CrunkLord420
     @crunklord420 @starlabssystems Yeah, not unless they're selling millions of units per month. Those cards should be down around $10, they should be commodities sold by multiple vendors like the old days of "IBM compatible" competition.
     
     An 8x markup would be fine if the base laptop cost $200-300, but they don't.
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     Zergling_man (zergling_man@sacred.harpy.faith)'s status on Saturday, 30-Aug-2025 03:05:56 JST Zergling_man

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     • CrunkLord420
     @crunklord420 @starlabssystems It's quicker to explain it like this:
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 31-Aug-2025 15:47:04 JST 翠星石

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     • Zergling_man
     @Zergling_man @starlabssystems I'm not sure what I'm meant too add - although I can point out that most of those companies make no effort to support GNU/Linux - some rather do their best to sabotage the execution of GNU/Linux.
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     Zergling_man (zergling_man@sacred.harpy.faith)'s status on Sunday, 31-Aug-2025 15:47:06 JST Zergling_man

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     • 翠星石
     @starlabssystems @Suiseiseki