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vaartis running up that hill (vaartis@pl.kotobank.ch)'s status on Monday, 16-Jun-2025 19:24:44 JST vaartis running up that hill
> We test our Mastodon-compatible API against the following clients:
> Has akkoma
> No pleroma
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SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Monday, 16-Jun-2025 19:24:42 JST SuperDicq
@vaartis@pl.kotobank.ch Mastodongers think Pleroma is for Nazis
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narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Monday, 16-Jun-2025 19:25:03 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:
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narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Monday, 16-Jun-2025 19:28:37 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:
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vaartis running up that hill (vaartis@pl.kotobank.ch)'s status on Monday, 16-Jun-2025 19:28:39 JST vaartis running up that hill
@hj
https://iceshrimp.dev/iceshrimp/iceshrimp.net
https://enafore.social/
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lainy (lain@lain.com)'s status on Monday, 16-Jun-2025 19:34:35 JST lainy
@vaartis @hj meanwhile truth.social runs on mastodon but that's ok i guess In conversation permalink Phantasm likes this. -
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vaartis running up that hill (vaartis@pl.kotobank.ch)'s status on Monday, 16-Jun-2025 19:34:37 JST vaartis running up that hill
@hj oh yeah also https://tuba.geopjr.dev/
i'm not sure i actually care about it enough myself to go out of my way and talk to them abou it, it just annoys me. I'm sure the reason was indeed something like "well pleroma is for nazis and akkoma is surely completely different" even though the two projects work together and share code all the time, as far as i understandIn conversation permalink Attachments
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Fish of Rage (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 16-Jun-2025 19:36:00 JST Fish of Rage
@vaartis @hj I tried talking to a couple people that have done things like this, their strategy is to ignore your request for why In conversation permalink Phantasm likes this. -
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narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Monday, 16-Jun-2025 19:36:58 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:
@sun @vaartis get your popcorn ready https://github.com/enafore/enafore/pull/55 In conversation permalink Attachments
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Fish of Rage (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 16-Jun-2025 19:40:13 JST Fish of Rage
@vaartis @hj isn't it just some naming things In conversation permalink -
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vaartis running up that hill (vaartis@pl.kotobank.ch)'s status on Monday, 16-Jun-2025 19:40:15 JST vaartis running up that hill
@hj @sun does it actually have anything akkoma-specific that we don't support In conversation permalink -
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narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Monday, 16-Jun-2025 19:45:33 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:
@eris @vaartis @sun it's missing chats and flash support from PleromaFE
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Daniel Stevens (eris@p.enes.lv)'s status on Monday, 16-Jun-2025 19:45:35 JST Daniel Stevens
I wonder if nowadays it's the other way around: it doesn't have enough pleroma-specific features that akkoma has removed so it's easier to just support akkoma fe
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Fish of Rage (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 16-Jun-2025 19:50:22 JST Fish of Rage
@vaartis @eris @hj its possible they looked and said "we don't want to support chats and scrobbling" but I kind of doubt it, there's a LOT of passive-aggressive pleroma-ignoring In conversation permalink Phantasm likes this. -
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vaartis running up that hill (vaartis@pl.kotobank.ch)'s status on Monday, 16-Jun-2025 19:50:23 JST vaartis running up that hill
@hj @eris @sun also, don't we, like, check feature support for these new features anyway.. I guess it all comes down to nobody wanting to ask if we can do something to help support their frontend In conversation permalink -
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Phantasm (phnt@fluffytail.org)'s status on Monday, 16-Jun-2025 19:55:39 JST Phantasm
@vaartis @eris @hj @sun I think it's more of the Pleroma bad that spiraled into people not knowing that Pleroma even exists.
I see it all the time with polls like "What fedi server implementation do you use?" and there's stuff like snac2, but Pleroma is nowhere to be seen. During the last spam wave there were multiple people claiming that Akkoma invented MRFs and stuff like that.
As for what Akkoma supports and Pleroma currently doesn't. It all comes down to Misskey's MFM which is janky in AkkomaFE anyway.In conversation permalink -
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narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Monday, 16-Jun-2025 19:57:45 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:
@vaartis @mkljczk they do mention it in API also, literally isPleroma column. As for FE support that needs testing but i need an account on some instance In conversation permalink -
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vaartis running up that hill (vaartis@pl.kotobank.ch)'s status on Monday, 16-Jun-2025 19:57:46 JST vaartis running up that hill
@mkljczk @hj what i mean is that they support specifically akkoma-fe but call it pleroma api in the documentation and do not mention what pleroma itself is anywhere else In conversation permalink -
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Marcin Mikołajczak (mkljczk@pl.fediverse.pl)'s status on Monday, 16-Jun-2025 19:57:48 JST Marcin Mikołajczak
@vaartis @hj I don't get what you mean. Shrimpnet implements some of Pleroma-specific API extensions and it's up to them to implement more. In conversation permalink -
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vaartis running up that hill (vaartis@pl.kotobank.ch)'s status on Monday, 16-Jun-2025 19:57:49 JST vaartis running up that hill
@mkljczk @hj
Indeed they do.
Funnily enough their documentation says "pleroma api" support is incomplete
https://kb.iceshrimp.dev/s/docs/doc/alternate-frontends-0dGuCW8g20
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Marcin Mikołajczak (mkljczk@pl.fediverse.pl)'s status on Monday, 16-Jun-2025 19:57:50 JST Marcin Mikołajczak
@vaartis @hj well, they link to their own fork of akkoma-fe, so they’d likely have to maintain a fork of pleroma-fe as well In conversation permalink -
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Fish of Rage (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 16-Jun-2025 19:58:08 JST Fish of Rage
@phnt @eris @vaartis @hj pleroma works pretty good as-is but if you aren't making constant feature releases people forget you exist too In conversation permalink -
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(mint@ryona.agency)'s status on Monday, 16-Jun-2025 20:03:33 JST
@phnt @eris @vaartis @hj @sun All part of the plan.
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narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Monday, 16-Jun-2025 20:04:21 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:
@vaartis @mkljczk needs invite code In conversation permalink -
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vaartis running up that hill (vaartis@pl.kotobank.ch)'s status on Monday, 16-Jun-2025 20:04:23 JST vaartis running up that hill
@hj @mkljczk I found this from your reply to https://icy.wyvern.rip/notes/a92gg3fatmbra7ks In conversation permalink Attachments
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Phantasm (phnt@fluffytail.org)'s status on Monday, 16-Jun-2025 20:05:57 JST Phantasm
@sun @eris @vaartis @hj Akkoma doesn't have feature releases now anyway. The big hit were custom emoji reactions and that is in Pleroma since 2.7.0 (or maybe even earlier since I run develop). Maybe also quote posts, but I don't like them anyway. There's not much new features to add in my opinion on the user facing side.
What I miss in PleromaFE is post search for specific users (/api/v2/search?account_id=XXXXXX) and that's it, everything else is already there and the wordfilter is better than the hacked up jank I made a year ago.
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Fish of Rage (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 16-Jun-2025 20:06:17 JST Fish of Rage
@phnt @eris @vaartis @hj it supports misskey animations now In conversation permalink -
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narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Monday, 16-Jun-2025 20:08:35 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:
@i @phnt @eris @vaartis @mint @sun it didn't have threads like this before akkoma :vanShrug: In conversation permalink -
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:blank: (i@declin.eu)'s status on Monday, 16-Jun-2025 20:08:36 JST :blank:
@mint @phnt @eris @vaartis @hj @sun maybe people don't like pleroma because only pleroma has threads as good as this In conversation permalink ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: likes this. -
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vaartis running up that hill (vaartis@pl.kotobank.ch)'s status on Monday, 16-Jun-2025 20:09:18 JST vaartis running up that hill
@hj @i @phnt @eris @mint @sun it did, it was just about mastodon instead. Now it's more like a civil war In conversation permalink Phantasm likes this. -
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narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Monday, 16-Jun-2025 20:11:55 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:
@vaartis @i @phnt @eris @mint @sun not really, it was a lot milder. Akkoma/pleroma threads are spicy because of me. I have personal vendetta.
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narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Monday, 16-Jun-2025 21:38:41 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:
@mkljczk @vaartis it is done. Only thing that doesn't work (so far) is DM timeline which i can assume is what Sharkey.NET actually hasn't implemented yet. Some stuff is missing from nodeinfo so i had to detect 501 and fill in the blanks.
https://git.pleroma.social/pleroma/pleroma-fe/-/merge_requests/2176
it's been awhile since I directed my rage into constructive stuff
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narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Monday, 16-Jun-2025 21:39:17 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:
@mkljczk @vaartis i'm also wardialing akkoma instances to let me have an account. In conversation permalink Phantasm and Fish of Rage like this. -
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Phantasm (phnt@fluffytail.org)'s status on Monday, 16-Jun-2025 21:42:16 JST Phantasm
@hj @mkljczk @vaartis
cc @a1ba IIRC you wanted to try out PleromaFE on top of Akkoma on suya.place.In conversation permalink -
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narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Monday, 16-Jun-2025 21:44:38 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:
@a1ba @phnt @mkljczk @vaartis @vertka thanks for report, will check it out In conversation permalink -
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:umu: :umu: (a1ba@suya.place)'s status on Monday, 16-Jun-2025 21:44:39 JST :umu: :umu:
@phnt @mkljczk @vaartis @hj @vertka
oh, I will try it
When I tried it to do it myself, quotes were heavily broken.In conversation permalink Phantasm likes this. -
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Daniel Stevens (eris@p.enes.lv)'s status on Monday, 16-Jun-2025 22:26:28 JST Daniel Stevens
Losing it at "akkoma compatibility (tested with iceshrimp)". beautiful ragebait
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narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Monday, 16-Jun-2025 22:26:47 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:
@a1ba @phnt @mkljczk @vaartis @vertka quote (display of) should be fixed now. In conversation permalink -
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narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Monday, 16-Jun-2025 22:27:04 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:
@eris @mkljczk @vaartis just being honest because i got access to 🦐 first In conversation permalink -
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narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Monday, 16-Jun-2025 22:29:21 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:
@a1ba @mkljczk @phnt @vaartis @vertka quote posting also works In conversation permalink -
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narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Monday, 16-Jun-2025 22:45:37 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:
@RedTechEngineer @phnt @mkljczk @vaartis @a1ba @vertka enough.
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RedTechEngineer (redtechengineer@fedi.lowpassfilter.link)'s status on Monday, 16-Jun-2025 22:45:39 JST RedTechEngineer
@hj @phnt @mkljczk @vaartis @a1ba @vertka please break this feature 😡 In conversation permalink -
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narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Monday, 16-Jun-2025 22:53:23 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:
@vaartis @mkljczk fug In conversation permalink -
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vaartis running up that hill (vaartis@pl.kotobank.ch)'s status on Monday, 16-Jun-2025 22:53:25 JST vaartis running up that hill
@hj @mkljczk
oh also
it's iceshrimp.net not sharkey.net..
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vaartis running up that hill (vaartis@pl.kotobank.ch)'s status on Monday, 16-Jun-2025 22:55:28 JST vaartis running up that hill
@hj @mkljczk there's too many nowadays In conversation permalink narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: likes this.Phantasm repeated this. -
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narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Monday, 16-Jun-2025 22:55:37 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:
@vaartis @mkljczk my favorite is whiskey In conversation permalink Phantasm likes this.
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