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   Suzu (suzu@varishangout.net)'s status on Thursday, 12-Jun-2025 05:44:57 JST Suzu
   This is incontestable proof that Arch is for trannies and faggots (EndeavorOS is Arch based with some presets).
   
   Same thing with "window managers" like sway, hyprland and "ricing", they are for people like this dude.
   
   
   Real men use Debian or Red Hat/Fedora with default GNOME or KDE.
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     Ronnie21093 (ronnie21093@varishangout.net)'s status on Thursday, 12-Jun-2025 05:44:55 JST Ronnie21093

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     @Suzu Isn't Red Hat also faggoting out?
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     Berk Berkman (berkberkman@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 12-Jun-2025 19:27:39 JST Berk Berkman

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     • Kyonko802
     @Kyonko802 @Suzu Meanwhile, this is the most normal Artix user.
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     Kyonko802 (kyonko802@varishangout.net)'s status on Thursday, 12-Jun-2025 19:27:40 JST Kyonko802

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     @Suzu reminder that autists are the main victims of troon grooming so use what you want just don't cut your damn dick off
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     Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@tsundere.love)'s status on Thursday, 12-Jun-2025 22:27:52 JST Johnny Peligro

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     • pettanko
     @pettanko @Suzu would
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     pettanko (pettanko@varishangout.net)'s status on Thursday, 12-Jun-2025 22:27:53 JST pettanko

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     @Suzu ...dude?
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     djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Friday, 13-Jun-2025 02:32:37 JST djsumdog

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     • DarkMahesvara
     • nobullyplz :antibully:
     • EdBoatConnoisseur
     • SpookerZ
     • h
     I don't try it yearly, but I give it an honest shot every once in a while. It really cripples my workflow though, so I'm hoping Xlibre does succeeded. i3/X11 just work so well compared to Sway/Hyprland:
     
     https://battlepenguin.com/tech/adventures-in-hyprland/
     
     Gnome just stated they're doing hard dependencies on systemd:
     
     https://blogs.gnome.org/adrianvovk/2025/06/10/gnome-systemd-dependencies/
     
     Doesn't affect me, but still retarded.
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     nobullyplz :antibully: (nobullyplz@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 13-Jun-2025 02:32:38 JST nobullyplz :antibully:

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     • DarkMahesvara
     • EdBoatConnoisseur
     • SpookerZ
     • h
     @Spooke @eris @EdBoatConnoisseur @DarkMahesvara @Suzu Stopped being Open in the old sense the moment projects started to ask for your 'real' email and 'real' name and how your merge request under xXxGermoidCoderManxXx will be ignored.
     For myself, I have a yearly event to see if Wayland will forgive my display sins and work properly.
     Next year I'm sure that 5th time will be the charm! :kek:
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     SpookerZ (spooke@varishangout.net)'s status on Friday, 13-Jun-2025 02:32:39 JST SpookerZ

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     • DarkMahesvara
     • EdBoatConnoisseur
     • h
     @eris @EdBoatConnoisseur @DarkMahesvara @Suzu I just see it at this point as if wayland was truly supposed to beat x11, why did they need to spend 2-3 years suppressing merge requests, and when someone decides to do a hard fork they became super hostile and straight up banned x11libre from freedesktop. If you make a better FOSS project wouldn't you win by just making a better project?
     
     The behaviour just makes me think of how any project with enough libshits starts becoming censorious and banning people for not believing in their religion. Are we even open anymore?
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     h (eris@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Friday, 13-Jun-2025 02:32:41 JST h

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     • DarkMahesvara
     • EdBoatConnoisseur
     @DarkMahesvara @Suzu @EdBoatConnoisseur only gnome and shit going to wayland its stupid
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     DarkMahesvara (darkmahesvara@varishangout.net)'s status on Friday, 13-Jun-2025 02:32:42 JST DarkMahesvara

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     • EdBoatConnoisseur
     • h
     @Suzu @EdBoatConnoisseur @eris it will stay in the repo as long as other projects and people use it. you pissing on the wrong tree here. complain about the projects like plasma and gnome for removing x11 support.
     
     x11 will probably live on for decades if not by itself than in xwayland (also forks).
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     Suzu (suzu@varishangout.net)'s status on Friday, 13-Jun-2025 02:32:43 JST Suzu

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     • DarkMahesvara
     • EdBoatConnoisseur
     • h
     @DarkMahesvara @EdBoatConnoisseur @eris now the question is: for how long will Xorg stay in the repo, and updated?
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     DarkMahesvara (darkmahesvara@varishangout.net)'s status on Friday, 13-Jun-2025 02:32:44 JST DarkMahesvara

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     • EdBoatConnoisseur
     • h
     @Suzu @eris @EdBoatConnoisseur what do you mean "going to wayland" by default there is nothing pre installed (thats the whole point of arch) but its in the repo like x11 and every other x11 DE/WM.
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     Suzu (suzu@varishangout.net)'s status on Friday, 13-Jun-2025 02:32:45 JST Suzu

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     • EdBoatConnoisseur
     • h
     @eris @EdBoatConnoisseur Arch is going to Wayland too, isn't it? I mean, Arch + Hyprland/Sway is a pretty common combination, and as far as I understand, both window managers are Wayland-only.
     
     NixOS too.
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     h (eris@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Friday, 13-Jun-2025 02:32:46 JST h

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     • EdBoatConnoisseur
     @Suzu @EdBoatConnoisseur th eonly projects moving to wayland are the corporate owned ones
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     EdBoatConnoisseur (edboatconnoisseur@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 13-Jun-2025 02:32:47 JST EdBoatConnoisseur

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     @Suzu nah, wayland is for tranny faggots.

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     Suzu (suzu@varishangout.net)'s status on Friday, 13-Jun-2025 02:32:47 JST Suzu

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     • EdBoatConnoisseur
     @EdBoatConnoisseur to think that I lived through two changes in the Linux display server.
     I remember back when they were replacing XFree86 with Xorg, everyone hated Xorg too. Including me, because there was a lot of shit I had that didn't work correctly with Xorg and it was pretty frustrating to use, and everything became unbearable when every distro stopped shipping XFree86.
     
     And again, I don't follow tranny dev drama, but it seems a lot of projects are moving to Wayland right now and starting to ditch Xorg.
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     djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Friday, 13-Jun-2025 09:34:17 JST djsumdog

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     • DarkMahesvara
     • nobullyplz :antibully:
     • EdBoatConnoisseur
     • Basades Kaiser
     • SpookerZ
     • h

     There's no pasuspend for pipewire and I like using AC3/DTS/TrueHD pass through on my home theater PC. I know there's a way to get Pipewire to allow raw digital pass though, but everything looked so complicated I just had a script that does a killall -9 pipewire before running env ENABLE_HDR_WSI=1 mpv --ao=alsa --audio-spdif=ac3,eac3,dts-hd,truehd --vo=gpu-next --target-colorspace-hint --gpu-api=vulkan --gpu-context=waylandvk so I get digital audio and HDR.

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     Basades Kaiser (basadeskaiser@cawfee.club)'s status on Friday, 13-Jun-2025 09:34:18 JST Basades Kaiser

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     • DarkMahesvara
     • nobullyplz :antibully:
     • EdBoatConnoisseur
     • djsumdog
     • SpookerZ
     • h
     @EdBoatConnoisseur @djsumdog @eris @nobullyplz @DarkMahesvara @Spooke @Suzu I have tried Cinnamon and wayland with pipewire, they are so slow and unstable I want to install windows again. Wayland sucks and gnome is slow as valve releasing half life 3.
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     EdBoatConnoisseur (edboatconnoisseur@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 13-Jun-2025 09:34:18 JST EdBoatConnoisseur

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     • DarkMahesvara
     • nobullyplz :antibully:
     • djsumdog
     • Basades Kaiser
     • SpookerZ
     • h

     @basadeskaiser @djsumdog @eris @nobullyplz @DarkMahesvara @Spooke @Suzu Pipewire is okay in x11 tho, as i no longer need to think of the audio server nor do the pulseaudio and jack magick ritual dance when i want to use ardour and connect my audio interface.

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     EdBoatConnoisseur (edboatconnoisseur@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 13-Jun-2025 09:34:19 JST EdBoatConnoisseur

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     • DarkMahesvara
     • nobullyplz :antibully:
     • djsumdog
     • SpookerZ
     • h

     @djsumdog @eris @nobullyplz @DarkMahesvara @Spooke @Suzu thankfully gnome is going full systemd, hopefully they decide to add gnome inside the systemd tree for a systemd.gnomed