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@Hoss @graf @ArdainianRight @af2 There were a couple other options, but they changed chains and I lost my hodl, so they're gay now.
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@skylar @Goalkeeper @af2 Refer to the message above.
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@af2 @Goalkeeper tor solved nothing but "what if we had VPN but worse, 100x slower, and banned from every web site on earth because it's exclusively used for abuse?"
congrats you have an address generated by cats walking on keyboards, that nobody can find, that other servers can't communicate with so it's useless for anything federated, and that only works on one browser
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@Goalkeeper @skylar tor solved this with onion addresses. Brave even as native tor support these days.
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@af2 @ArdainianRight @DemonSixOne @ForbiddenDreamer @graf @Hoss ok let's imagine you've cursed everyone with your long ass unreadable alternative to DNS
you're still getting censored and deplatformed ~exactly the same~ because ISPs and hosting providers still exist. literally all you've done is make things worse and harder to use for everybody.
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>Just make an alternative
Yet again people fail to realize this shit is solved, like it or not. It's not 1985. You would need well north of a billion dollars to even try to compete. Then you'd have to get IEEE to abandon 30 years of standards.
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@af2 @ArdainianRight @DemonSixOne @ForbiddenDreamer @graf @Hoss then that's a branding issue
fuck you i'm not using alsdkfjdsalfkjsdflgkjsdflgkjsdflgjsdflgjhsdflgjhsdfikoguhipxfdgunbkxdjfgh.ijfhdgs9ptghsdfkljghsdfg
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@skylar @ArdainianRight @DemonSixOne @ForbiddenDreamer @graf @Hoss That's not your brand, just like your street address isn't your brand. The sign on your door is your brand, not the nerd shit in your URL bar. We let them censor us and curse us with the shitty insecure DNS system in the name of "oh look, it says Nike in the url bar too!"
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@af2 @ArdainianRight @DemonSixOne @ForbiddenDreamer @graf @Hoss that sounds incredibly autistic
things DO need to be readable and memorable, or there's no fucking point to the the whole idea of resolving a name to an IP address
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@skylar @ArdainianRight @DemonSixOne @ForbiddenDreamer @graf @Hoss The point is that with so many TLDs they aren't memorable. Domain squatters frequently make use of this inability remember if it's .com or .net, forcing site owners to pay for a whole bunch of similar domains to protect their brand because ICANN thought we needed .barefoot and .fail. The point of having a domain name over a bare IP is that IPs frequently change (new host/dc, CDN etc) while domain names should remain static. In today's DNS system, that's ALL they are good for.
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@skylar @af2 @ArdainianRight @ForbiddenDreamer @graf @Hoss The pubkey all the things people remind me of the folks that used to obsess over pgp signing all their messages on usenet, often with a signature stanza that was longer than their message.
The purpose of name service is to translate human readable names into machine readable addresses. We dont call foxgirls "c1b04ae006f580ee74da216e341ea5d7226a263bb9e451ab9f04ebc0b89eb2ced2cbfa466f0b9fc8d8300d83d33fb321fbdadc50125eb61b6dffe9b77fa50b14" because humans are not machines.
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@DemonSixOne @skylar @ArdainianRight @ForbiddenDreamer @graf @Hoss Readability is overrated, we have too many TLDs (.com, .me, .pride) so anyone trying to remember which it is will just use google anyway to look it up. Expecting people to remember domain names is very silly, and we gave up SO MUCH in pursuit of "readability".
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@af2 @ArdainianRight @DemonSixOne @ForbiddenDreamer @graf @Hoss that is pointless and retarded
no one is going to type in all that shit, big tech can easily block links from being shared, and literally the only visitors you'll ever get are chinese spam bots and cats who've walked across an unattended keyboard
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@ForbiddenDreamer @Hoss @graf @ArdainianRight ENS was always stupid because having names be human readable is a pointless goal and it has the same problem with squatters that DNS has. Making a digital resource scarce (only so many one letter domains available) isn't what we should want for next-gen DNS.
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@af2 @ForbiddenDreamer @Hoss @graf @ArdainianRight >name service
>not human readable
how does this even work?
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@DemonSixOne @ForbiddenDreamer @Hoss @graf @ArdainianRight think of tor onion addresses, where the "name" is just a public key (6x7g7rr6fhdoszolkqkaittdr6qzgejjxoc42q4ceaph2xttmo5vgryd.onion) that is then used to connect securely to the web server. It means we can get rid of DNS and PKI at the same time.
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@skylar @Goalkeeper @af2 Actually he hasn't posted in months so my necrosearching went in wain. :niggawilted:
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@mint @Goalkeeper @af2 @skylar He's on @skylar now.
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@phnt @Goalkeeper @af2 @mint @skylar i broke the database for a bit last year and didn't want to migrate back