@Zardoz @PopulistRight @Cathie_Leavitt @entropyrider @soothspider @BroDrillard Sincere apologies if this is a dead horse you’re all tired of talking about or whatnot, or if it’s silly and dumb etc etc; where does Jeff Cliff fit into all of this ? Is he for real ? Do “true believers” actually operate at that level ?
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☦️KingOfWhiteAmerica☦️ (kingofwhiteamerica@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 08-May-2025 15:29:52 JST ☦️KingOfWhiteAmerica☦️
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Zardoz (zardoz@gigaohm.bio)'s status on Thursday, 08-May-2025 15:29:53 JST Zardoz
Most of this stuff you are talking about is just fancy ways of saying "models". This is all en vitro science, not en vivo. There is a real barrier there, and without real, human testing all this humanized rats crap is just marketing. There is simply no way an RNA particle is going to circle the world, there is no actual science to support the idea, only Hollywood NLP.
DEFUSE is almost certainly a narrative prop and not a real plan--a huge red herring to convince people that "lab leak" is real. -
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PopulistRight (populistright@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 08-May-2025 15:29:54 JST PopulistRight
@soothspider @Cathie_Leavitt @Zardoz @entropyrider @BroDrillard @KingOfWhiteAmerica Circling back to where this started - the "PREEMPT" and "DIFFUSE" projects - a few points I never heard anyone address:
Why, if the goal was to "immunize bats," would one use a human-specific "gain of function" spike-protein for a live-virus vaccine FOR BATS? Why not a "bat" specific spike, which was easily available from the bat-viruses they had collected?
Why would they "humanize rats" to have human ACE2-Receptors, then create human-contagious man-made viruses for their experiments - instead of creating viruses having rat-specific receptor spike, which would NOT be contagious to people?
I can understand the use of "humanized" rats to test EXISTING human-contagious viruses and treatments for them - but not for testing man-made viruses.
The entire "mRNA-vaccine" idea COULD have been tested entirely on animals, using viruses WHICH WERE NOT contagious to people - until they achieved an efficacious product conferring sterilizing immunity - assuming that was possible. Yet, this was not done.
These look like smoking-guns to me - that the INTENT of the entire project was malicious / bio-warfare - but I am open to new information.
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