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   Christine Lemmer-Webber (cwebber@social.coop)'s status on Monday, 05-May-2025 18:16:51 JST Christine Lemmer-Webber

   If you are going to read one and ONLY one article about the state of the US, why trans people in particular are under threat, with historical and contemporary analysis, please PLEASE read and share this article about a historian who is trans and has neurodivergent children, and why she is painfully packing up and exiting the US: https://www.damemagazine.com/2025/04/29/why-i-am-leaving-the-usa/

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     Christine Lemmer-Webber (cwebber@social.coop)'s status on Monday, 05-May-2025 18:19:13 JST Christine Lemmer-Webber

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     If you are in a threatened category and ESPECIALLY if you are trans and you are thinking about leaving, it's at least important that you start planning your exit. I highly recommend the community collection of resources on https://transworldexpress.org/

     Let me say it plainly: we are facing a trans genocide on the present path. Start helping yourself, your loved ones, get a passport, look at options out. Don't wait.

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     Christine Lemmer-Webber (cwebber@social.coop)'s status on Monday, 05-May-2025 18:20:49 JST Christine Lemmer-Webber

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     I am not telling you to leave, I am telling you that you absolutely cannot look away from the situation, for your safety, for the safety of the people you love.

     Things are escalating fast. Things will get much worse very quickly. In all likeliness, there won't be paths out, soon.

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     Christine Lemmer-Webber (cwebber@social.coop)'s status on Monday, 05-May-2025 18:23:26 JST Christine Lemmer-Webber

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     If you are wondering though, "is genocide really possible, or likely"

     The answer is yes, it's possible, it's likely, they're actively working on it. In the next couple of posts, I will explain why, and then how, we are seeing a trans genocide being planned.

     The first is why. It's very simple: fascism requires a culture war to prevent a class war. Since the poor are directly hurt by oligarchic takeover, they have to attack a group of underprivileged people

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     Christine Lemmer-Webber (cwebber@social.coop)'s status on Monday, 05-May-2025 18:27:16 JST Christine Lemmer-Webber

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     It's essential to have a group of people which are such a small minority that most people don't know them well, who are vulnerable, and to make them look scary and like the enemy.

     It has been Jewish people before (and will again, Nazis can't wait after trans people are being exterminated to go after Jews again), but it is trans people being prioritized today.

     So how will it be done?

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     Christine Lemmer-Webber (cwebber@social.coop)'s status on Monday, 05-May-2025 18:29:07 JST Christine Lemmer-Webber

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     The trail of crumbs is out there for all to see, they've left everything on the table:

     - DONE: Provoke fear that trans people are sexual predators, trying to take things away from cis women, preying on children (these fears are now well established)
     - DONE: Establish medical disinformation disguised as real reports saying that trans people aren't real, their care should be removed (especially for children but also adults)

     So now what's next?

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     maswan (maswan@mastodon.acc.sunet.se)'s status on Monday, 05-May-2025 18:30:50 JST maswan

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     @cwebber Don't wait! Finding a way out that's both legal (you really don't want to get deported back!) and has at most a moderate drop in quality of life (this includes selling possessions to have money in the destination, rather than arriving with empty pockets) will realistically take 6-12 months of hard work.

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     Christine Lemmer-Webber (cwebber@social.coop)'s status on Monday, 05-May-2025 18:32:36 JST Christine Lemmer-Webber

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     The next steps aren't a *direct* roundup, it's an *indirect* roundup:

     - Federal ban on trans care for children, with severe prosecution for anyone who doesn't comply
     - Federal ban on trans health care for *adults*, building on the previous case
     - Begin defining having changed gender identity as "identity fraud" and a felony, including *government and workplace interactions*

     THIS LAST ONE IS ALREADY A BILL IN TEXAS (HB 3817) https://capitol.texas.gov/BillLookup/History.aspx?LegSess=89R&Bill=HB3817

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     Christine Lemmer-Webber (cwebber@social.coop)'s status on Monday, 05-May-2025 18:35:16 JST Christine Lemmer-Webber

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     With these in place:

     - Trans people will be forcibly detransitioned, accesing medical care even for adults could be considered drug crimes
     - Trans people using their post-transition identity information in work or legal contexts can be charged as felons for identity fraud
     - Trans people entering restrooms not corresponding to their assigned-at-birth-gender can be arrested as *sexual predators*
     - Trans people will be assigned to the *wrong prisons*

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     Christine Lemmer-Webber (cwebber@social.coop)'s status on Monday, 05-May-2025 18:37:36 JST Christine Lemmer-Webber

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     Furthermore, the Trump administration has been pushing on harder use of the death penalty, including for sexual predators.

     Even though being trans does NOT make you an actual sexual predator, the rules are then in place to permit not only incarcerating trans people in the wrong prisons, but *executing* trans people.

     Like with the "final solution", executions will ramp up more later in rollout than earlier

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     Christine Lemmer-Webber (cwebber@social.coop)'s status on Monday, 05-May-2025 18:40:28 JST Christine Lemmer-Webber

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     Am I exaggerating? Are things really that bad?

     Folks I would LOVE to be wrong but I really don't think I am. All of this stuff has been left out in plain sight, there on the table for all to see. See the post linked at the top of the article for more.

     It's going to take time to assemble an exit. Many trans people have groups of people they don't want to leave.

     It will be easier to start making plans as a group *now*, than when it's too late.

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     jan Ki | 奇 :nonbinary_flag: (ki@chaos.social)'s status on Monday, 05-May-2025 18:41:18 JST jan Ki | 奇 :nonbinary_flag:

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     @cwebber
     to add something even more grim: Project 2025 mentioned the death penalty for sexual predators _and_ framed sex ed (esp. regarding trans and inter people) as sexual child abuse

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     Christine Lemmer-Webber (cwebber@social.coop)'s status on Monday, 05-May-2025 18:42:56 JST Christine Lemmer-Webber

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     If you have a group of people, maybe your polycule, and hey, all likeliness it's a pile of people with executive dysfunction.

     Organize a meeting, maybe over video calls. Start mapping things out in a shared document (maybe on a CryptPad), look at everyone's options.

     You might have to split the party, at least eventually.

     Start now. Please don't wait. Know your options.

     Help those who need help.

     Thank you.

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     Christine Lemmer-Webber (cwebber@social.coop)'s status on Monday, 05-May-2025 18:49:03 JST Christine Lemmer-Webber

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     A final comment.

     A frequent question I hear amongst my friend group is: do they really have the power?

     Look at what they have been doing to Venezuelans.

     Look at how the Trump administration has still not complied with an order from the SUPREME COURT

     Remember that Trump has directly said he wants to "deport" US citizens

     Yes, they have the power. And in the places they don't, they are assembling it.

     Please don't ignore this. Please be safe. Thanks. 💜

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     Gwen, the kween :neofox_flag_transbian: :sheher: (gwenthekween@kitsunes.club)'s status on Monday, 05-May-2025 19:38:19 JST Gwen, the kween :neofox_flag_transbian: :sheher:

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     @cwebber@social.coop an addendum to splitting the party: it will be sad, but we live in the times where that will be the least impactful.
     
     If you have signal, discord, threema, email, matrix, or anything else - especially if you can be mildly anonymous and it is decentralized - you can keep on touch. This won't be like flees prior, where you'll at best have letters and there's a high likelihood of never finding each other again.
     
     With instant communication, the party can be reunited in the future, and you can still be part of each other's lives

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     Dave Warnock (dave42w@amastodon.uk)'s status on Monday, 05-May-2025 19:38:51 JST Dave Warnock

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     @cwebber I wonder if it would be helpful to reframe the question "do they really have the power?" to show that they do not have legitimate power to do these terrible things but the lack of legal, legitimate power is not stopping the corrupt use of power.

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     Christine Lemmer-Webber (cwebber@social.coop)'s status on Monday, 05-May-2025 19:44:01 JST Christine Lemmer-Webber

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     • Dave Warnock

     @Dave42W That's right, even though clearly legally they cannot do some of the things they are doing, they have eroded all of the systems of checks and balances so thoroughly that it means that in terms of actionable power, they have it.

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     Christine Lemmer-Webber (cwebber@social.coop)'s status on Monday, 05-May-2025 20:28:57 JST Christine Lemmer-Webber

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     @faoluin It's true that it's challenging to find out what options you have, though https://transworldexpress.org/wiki/Country_list and https://transworldexpress.org/wiki/What_are_my_options%3F may help

     And hey, maybe there's someone in your polycule who you'd be happy to be married to...

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     Softwarewolf (faoluin@chitter.xyz)'s status on Monday, 05-May-2025 20:28:58 JST Softwarewolf

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     @cwebber My biggest question for immigrating to another country is... what if you don't have an "in"? Your only option is job application, and most companies don't seem to want to sponsor immigrants. The legal process could take months or years, which we likely don't have at this point.

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     Christine Lemmer-Webber (cwebber@social.coop)'s status on Monday, 05-May-2025 22:23:22 JST Christine Lemmer-Webber

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     @Dave42W If the courts get tough on them but nobody enforces the courts, that's when we're in real trouble.

     The fact that the *supreme court* has mandated an action that isn't being carried out....

     Well, what more powerful court is there in the US? If it's ignored, which court can get tough?

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     Dave Warnock (dave42w@amastodon.uk)'s status on Monday, 05-May-2025 22:23:23 JST Dave Warnock

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     @cwebber I'm definitely not going to "favourite" that. I hope that the courts get much tougher on these fascists.

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     Tissevert :autumnleaf2: (alice@bidule.menf.in)'s status on Monday, 05-May-2025 22:23:47 JST Tissevert :autumnleaf2:

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     @cwebber I was first doubtful when I read about a potential "genocide" against trans folks in your thread, especially regarding how strongly other minorities have already been targeted and denied constitutional rights but… some evidence given in the article is awfully compelling[1][2]. I've already worried about if I'd ever need to move from France if things kept going where they're headed since Macron arrived but I hadn't realized how critical things already were on your side of the Atlantic. Like you said, you could be wrong, still the disturbing facts are starting to pile up. Thanks for sharing this. Please be safe.
     
     [1] https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/25912589/bondi-memo-42225.pdf
     [2] https://capitol.texas.gov/tlodocs/89R/billtext/pdf/HB03817I.pdf#navpanes=0
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     Christine Lemmer-Webber (cwebber@social.coop)'s status on Monday, 05-May-2025 23:55:13 JST Christine Lemmer-Webber

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     @cocaine_owlbear Go for it

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     Spooooky Owlbear (cocaine_owlbear@retro.pizza)'s status on Monday, 05-May-2025 23:55:15 JST Spooooky Owlbear

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     @cwebber Would you mind if I shared this thread on Bluesky? I don't have a big reach over there (or anywhere, really), but I think this is important.

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     Christine Lemmer-Webber (cwebber@social.coop)'s status on Monday, 05-May-2025 23:58:04 JST Christine Lemmer-Webber

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     • Dave Warnock

     @Dave42W That''s pushing the goalposts on what a constitutional crisis is pretty far imo

     I'll just link:
     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JN1oBfg0fwI

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     Dave Warnock (dave42w@amastodon.uk)'s status on Monday, 05-May-2025 23:58:13 JST Dave Warnock

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     @cwebber I'm no expert on the US system. My understanding was that so far no court has gone down the actual contempt of court proceedings?
     I'd say you are in a constitutional crisis (among all the others Trump is causing) but until he does not accept a contempt of the supreme court ruling you have not reached the full constitutional crisis?