@fluffy@p i feel sorry for the jannies, they do it for free and now they are going to get stalked and harassed hard because they wanted to take child abuse media off boards about anime and programming
@fluffy@p the official story was that there were no jannies for /b/ only global mods and admins could handle /b/
the leaks suggest that if people are reported for violating US law and mods agree (referred to as GR1 internally) there is a process of sending all relevant info to LEO easily
@stelo@p im asking for the stuff not hearsay it's fine if you don't have it. most people don't read the primary sources and prefer journalists anyway, so you're normal.
@fluffy@p im just giving context for "what was known" -- any hard facts past that are definitely of note!
" 100% of the /b/ jannies were FBI agents." could mean that (a) all of the global moderators, people internally granted access to policing /b/, were confidential human sources (i.e., "agents") or it could mean that (b) there was a special group of jannies for /b/ who were literal employees of DOJ with fbi.gov email addresses or similar.
This is armchair speculation but if I were DOJ I would either (A) demand root access to server or (B) employ admins, especially the unique "manager" RAPEAPE for 4chan-related work, and otherwise leave the platform to its own devices. (He -- RAPEAPE -- was discussed in depth by VICE for playing a special role in turning 4chan "more racist" -- https://www.vice.com/en/article/the-man-who-helped-turn-4chan-into-the-internets-racist-engine/ )
There are so many stories of criminal informants being given a blind pass to criminal activity as long as they throw other people under the bus that I won't bother citing the plentiful articles on this subject.
Given that 4chan internally seems strongly committed to following US law as its gold standard and mentions of specially implemented systems for dealing with "GR1" (eg "when in doubt, send everything to FBI") I'm tempted to say that B is the more likely option. Less paperwork and manhours for DOJ to contribute as well. There are no legal grounds for officially handing the platform over to the feds and this is merely a feeling but I don't feel like moot would be fine doing that voluntarily.
Feds don't understand fediverse. When feds visited me 10 years ago over my forced-anonymous IRC network, they didn't understand anonymity or IRC. I'm tempted to say that feds cannot and will not understand 4chan for the same reasons they can't understand fediverse or IRC so it most likely makes sense that they would put site admins on their payroll and offer them kickbacks when they forward "actionable content" -- they tried to offer me a deal exactly like that for my network, despite not understanding how IRC or anonymity "work" -- obviously I rejected it but I could see they had a standard procedure for dealing with "weird online shit"
Here's a weird idea: feds approach RAPEAPE and say, "hey, by all means encourage more retarded nazis to post mentally ill bullshit on /pol/, and if any of it can lead to arrests we'll offer you a kickback." Now he can build strong "right" power while earning kickbacks from uncle sam when taking out the trash. And thus a janny manages to no longer do it for free.
> I'm tempted to say that feds cannot and will not understand 4chan for the same reasons they can't understand fediverse
I remember seeing their attempts to explain who Anonymous was after the Chanology stuff, they were obsessed with figuring out who the "leader" was. I think they've figured it out, otherwise they wouldn't have flipped Sabu.
> they would put site admins on their payroll and offer them kickbacks when they forward "actionable content" -- they tried to offer me a deal exactly like that for my network,
Now this is interesting!
> And thus a janny manages to no longer do it for free.
@p@bajax@fluffy@stelo@ins0mniak >Poole and Nishimura did not respond to repeated requests for comment. RapeApe responded by sending an email that contained only a single link to a video of naked muscular men dancing.
> I think they've figured it out, otherwise they wouldn't have flipped Sabu.
this is a bit, right? the only thing that guy led was a competition for eating sosig's in bulk and doing nothing-burgers on the terminal while siphoning irc to the plant
he was storing oil for a rainy day long before glowbugs turned him on his greasy back. there was never a head, it was many and still is. while many moved on, there's still some a-gamers a-gaming