TL;DR: Dude made sunrise bots on Mastodon, got mad no one saw them, blamed the protocol, wrote a dramatic breakup letter, and moved to BlueSky like it’s his hot new rebound.
Somewhere out there, a lonely bot is still tweeting at the void: “sunrise was at 6:47am”, waiting for love.
@waifu the culture comment is fascinating to me because in my experience on bluesky it is like twitter where conversation is generally not a thing that happens well and it's more "voidposting" than much else
however, much of the mastodon side is also often like that to me so I do not see the difference in experience :chen_shrug:
@epsi@akko.wtf Indeed, they all say they would like to have "conversations" but they're always there for the dopamine, then get frustrated when nobody likes their posts instead of interacting with others so you can get some feedback or interesting insights
@waifu@mai.waifuism.life Fail. He should've know very well that if you want reach with an image bot, the way to go is "anime girl feet" or something like that :akko_shrug:
@waifu based on my interactions, it feels like a real conversation is viewed has hostile
and I don't mean in response to the typical career contrarian type users, but I mean genuine inquiries
I think I am starting to view these kinds of sites as purely "content consumption" platforms, and the idea of having actual discussions on the internet is still left to the kind of spaces where there is at least some semblance of "old internet" culture
@captain_arepa@waifu A good sunrise/sundown bot would be a sunrise feet and sundown feet bot, so that every sunrise and sundown post comes with the apropiate anime feet image.
@waifu 13 followers for a bot specific to Hobart, Australia isn't that small when you consider how small Hobart is and how many people would legitimately be interested in that outside of Hobart, this guy's just a sperglord
@epsi@waifu I mean this is what happened when Technology connections joined the fedi.
He felt some kind of way when people were trying to talk to him or even offering critique like "hey man you could make this 30 minute video, 10 minutes, just saying". So he wrote dramatic breakup letters and went to Bluesky where he could turn off replies to avoid feeling some type of way.
There's a lot of people who want to be able to "broadcast themselves" to the internet but not get replies so they don't feel some type of way.
@sendpaws@waifu yes I have seen this attitude where they say "I just want to post to the void". It just lends itself to creating a platform that is purely for content consumption too. Except much of the "content" is superficial junk.
@waifu all of this sounds more or less mastodon specific, and irrelevant to the rest of the fediverse. ie his main issue is between mas.to and mastodon.social (mostly mas.to) both of which are badly run mastodon servers, and the lack of a relay between the two
mas.to doesn't federate with us ( and deserves a retaliatory block, imho @sim )
@waifu >makes a billion bots that contribute nothing >gets shown the door >"but I was contributing! this whole protocol is broken!"
lmao this is the same shit as people who try to justify their existence by building a cottage industry around garbage nobody asked for (e.g. codes of conduct)
@waifu i guess i kinda see what he's talking about here, it does sort of sound like a chicken-and-egg problem? (I don't have any personal experience with Mastodon so I don't know how true it is) but he definitely exacerbated the problem by making dozens of accounts only he seemed to care about.
>Federated social media sucks, this platform that claims to be federated is clearly superior despite not really being federated in any meaningful way. Translation: I only left Twitter for the Fediverse because it was trendy, and now Bluesky is the hot new thing.
I get plenty of engagement dopamine just saying whatever I want and not Fediblocking myself into a hugbox full of insufferable trannies who will try to burn your entire life to the ground if you don't walk on eggshells.
Mastoids throw massive fits over any effort to improve the searchability of the Fediverse because they treat public-facing microblogging services like their fucking diary. What they really want is a completely localized offline application that just fills the replies of everything they post with milquetoast affirmations and asspats generated by an LLM.
@prettygood@socially.drinkingatmy.computer@7666@comp.lain.la I can't imagine a reason to use them."I wonder if the sun has gone out yet in my city" Proceeds to check a random bot instead of looking out the windowThis has never happened and WILL never happen in the history of humanity
> Somewhere out there, a lonely bot is still tweeting at the void: “sunrise was at 6:47am”, waiting for love.
I had my retarded Twitter uptime bot toss this in because it's trivial (but it posted the time and either "WHAT A HORRIBLE NIGHT TO HAVE A CURSE" or "THE MORNING SUN HAS VANQUISHED THE HORRIBLE NIGHT"). The bot ran from 2008 to 2023 and was only useful to me: externally hosted thing would show me whether my box was up or not and whether it had rebooted (until Elon bought Twitter and login-walled everything and then I couldn't see shit).
2500 years ago, without even pen and paper, dudes would calculate this by drawing in the sand and arranging rocks. Who the hell expects a massive following to develop because a guy wires up something that is trivial to calculate and completely uninteresting to look at? ( https://plan9.io/magic/man2html/7/astro , https://github.com/risacher/sunwait , etc.)
> But this broadcasting infrastructure appears to be the key ingredient for the phenomena we call “social”: large numbers of small-time “creators”, with some vaguely Zipf-like distribution making a few of them extremely influential. > I created a bunch of very simple social media bots that broadcast how sunrise and sunset are shifting every day shortly after sunset. Because this data depends on location, there is a separate bot for each major metropolitan area. > Update 2025-04-11: The Mastodon accounts have been shut down at the request of the administrator of the mas.to instance where I’d set them up.
He was tryna get famous with bots that were even lower-effort than those stupid "sponsored" Twitter mirror bots, spamming mas.to, and then got banned. sponsoredcancer.png
@waifu@7666 the mentality of someone who expects to be told when the sun has gone down by staring at a social media timeline is perfectly aligned with the type of person who gets upset when their bots don't get followers
@waifu I don't know, he had about a hundred of these bots based on eyeballing that list and then he apparently thinks there's no way to make a bot post unlisted ( https://mastodon.social/@rvcx/114230071292369969 , he gets *really* whiny in that thread).
I think the main issue is his expectation that there is money here: he kept using the words "broadcasting" and "influence" and "content" in those posts.